u.s. supreme court decision

[chances]

has the u.s. supreme court ruling, legalizing same sex marriage, given you more confidence in the legitamacy you have about your sexual preferences? for myself it makes me feel more confident about myself, and I can hold my head up high, and believe that I am indeed, a worthwhile part of the human race, instead of a person, who others put down, try to shame, or otherwise condemn, for their feelings of attraction to an individual of the same sex. your thoughts, please.

[pole_smoker]

has the u.s. supreme court ruling, legalizing same sex marriage, given you more confidence in the legitamacy you have about your sexual preferences? for myself it makes me feel more confident about myself, and I can hold my head up high, and believe that I am indeed, a worthwhile part of the human race, instead of a person, who others put down, try to shame, or otherwise condemn, for their feelings of attraction to an individual of the same sex. your thoughts, please.
Wow...your self-esteem must have been very low before this, and you must have had a lot of internalized biphobia.

It has not changed much for my husband or I but now the rest of the United States is finally catching up to the Northeast states where same gender marriage has been legal for awhile now.

[tenni]

I watched a documentary on gay people that dealt with same gender attraction but no reference to bisexuals.

It is important to understand that homosexuality was considered a medical mental illness and illegal for same sex sex acts for most of the twentieth century. It was sometime in the 80’s that homosexuality was taken off the list of mental illnesses. I think that it was in the late 1960’s that it was removed from the Canadian laws as illegal. It remained as illegal in the US and elsewhere longer I think.


Canada has had same gender marriage equality for ten years. What happened in the US made some Canadian friends happy and they readily put the rainbow flag offerred by Facebook over their image. I don’t think that it does much to legalize poly bisexual triad marriages though.


As far as shame, it makes sense that some people are still uncomfortable with such a cultural history of being considered illegal and suffering from a mental illness. I feel as confident about myself I feel as I did last week about bisexual equality. Apparently, according to the doc, it was AID's that moved the gay movement from ACT UP to actually planning improvements for gay people...same gender marriage was one of the planks...employment protection is another that goes back.

I like the bisexual philosophy that there is no need to come out about your sexuality as long as you talk about the remaining sexuality imbalance for bisexuals. The problem is uniting bisexuals like gay people became united.

[cuttin2dachase]

I didn't agree with the decisions on Obamakare or gay marriage. It's another example of a few misguided liberal government individuals (only FIVE of them) deciding that what the majority of people don't want is of no consequence to them. And it's done to buy the votes necessary for them to continue in power...just like instantly legalizing illegal immigrants and giving them social security numbers and handouts not available to even low income legal citizens. That creates yet another underclass of people dependent on the government from cradle to grave and buys the liberals more votes. I've been fighting for over 2 years for disability benefits denied to me twice (which I deserve and paid into for 40 years) and have yet for the bastards to even schedule my appeal hearing. Meanwhile I have had to exhaust my IRA to stay afloat. When I finally do get either disability or early retirement benefits, I will be at or below the poverty level with no IRA to supplement my income. As for the gay marriage deal, I am not opposed to gay marriages, but forcing employers and other institutions to grant them the same benefits as mf married couples is going to open up a Pandora's box on top of huge can of worms. Hell, there'll be millions of gays and lesbians marrying not for love, but for the benefits. This whole thing is not about gay rights, it's about money and votes and inducing gay people to marry. Housing, welfare checks, free insurance and tax benefits will be handed to them. Presto ! Another underclass of voters created to buy liberals more votes and leech from the taxes paid by the middle class. The tail continues to wag the dog. They think what they are doing is taking from the rich to give to the poor, but in actuality they are robbing from the middle class to give to the poor and bring the middle class down to poverty levels and create a world where there are no jobs or no decent paying jobs for anybody anymore. All this horseshit will not change the moral or religious beliefs and feelings of the majority of people who are against it all and who will remain against it. The coming backlash is not going to be pretty. Gay/lesbian married couples who truly want to marry for love may even come to regret that they got what they wished for.

[chtampa]

Wow...your self-esteem must have been very low before this, and you must have had a lot of internalized biphobia.

It has not changed much for my husband or I but now the rest of the United States is finally catching up to the Northeast states where same gender marriage has been legal for awhile now.

As you can see, some people had already moved to areas that would accept them. Acceptance can be a powerful emotional need. The Supreme Court decision is going to help the rest of people that toughed it out and stayed where they were. To those people, I say "Congratulations, and I hope the government makes all the legal changes necessary to allow you to be a family".

[pole_smoker]

I didn't agree with the decisions on Obamakare or gay marriage. It's another example of a few misguided liberal government individuals (only FIVE of them) deciding that what the majority of people don't want is of no consequence to them. And it's done to buy the votes necessary for them to continue in power...just like instantly legalizing illegal immigrants and giving them social security numbers and handouts not available to even low income legal citizens. That creates yet another underclass of people dependent on the government from cradle to grave and buys the liberals more votes. I've been fighting for over 2 years for disability benefits denied to me twice (which I deserve and paid into for 40 years) and have yet for the bastards to even schedule my appeal hearing. Meanwhile I have had to exhaust my IRA to stay afloat. When I finally do get either disability or early retirement benefits, I will be at or below the poverty level with no IRA to supplement my income. As for the gay marriage deal, I am not opposed to gay marriages, but forcing employers and other institutions to grant them the same benefits as mf married couples is going to open up a Pandora's box on top of huge can of worms. Hell, there'll be millions of gays and lesbians marrying not for love, but for the benefits. This whole thing is not about gay rights, it's about money and votes and inducing gay people to marry. Housing, welfare checks, free insurance and tax benefits will be handed to them. Presto ! Another underclass of voters created to buy liberals more votes and leech from the taxes paid by the middle class. The tail continues to wag the dog. They think what they are doing is taking from the rich to give to the poor, but in actuality they are robbing from the middle class to give to the poor and bring the middle class down to poverty levels and create a world where there are no jobs or no decent paying jobs for anybody anymore. All this horseshit will not change the moral or religious beliefs and feelings of the majority of people who are against it all and who will remain against it. The coming backlash is not going to be pretty. Gay/lesbian married couples who truly want to marry for love may even come to regret that they got what they wished for.
^^^
Typical horse shit from a bigot. :rolleyes:

[pole_smoker]

I watched a documentary on gay people that dealt with same gender attraction but no reference to bisexuals.

It is important to understand that homosexuality was considered a medical mental illness and illegal for same sex sex acts for most of the twentieth century. It was sometime in the 80’s that homosexuality was taken off the list of mental illnesses. I think that it was in the late 1960’s that it was removed from the Canadian laws as illegal. It remained as illegal in the US and elsewhere longer I think.


Canada has had same gender marriage equality for ten years. What happened in the US made some Canadian friends happy and they readily put the rainbow flag offerred by Facebook over their image. I don’t think that it does much to legalize poly bisexual triad marriages though.


As far as shame, it makes sense that some people are still uncomfortable with such a cultural history of being considered illegal and suffering from a mental illness. I feel as confident about myself I feel as I did last week about bisexual equality. Apparently, according to the doc, it was AID's that moved the gay movement from ACT UP to actually planning improvements for gay people...same gender marriage was one of the planks...employment protection is another that goes back.

I like the bisexual philosophy that there is no need to come out about your sexuality as long as you talk about the remaining sexuality imbalance for bisexuals. The problem is uniting bisexuals like gay people became united.

There is no 'bisexual philosophy' that there is no need to come out about your sexuality.

This has nothing to do with bisexuality and everything to do with someone being a closeted coward...oh wait one of the biggest closet queens on this site, tenni posted this. :rolleyes:

[tenni]

Reading some bisexual posting leads to believe that this is part of the bisexual philosophy. What percentage, I do not know. If bisexuals believed in coming out, they would.

Terms like "closet queen" are of the gay vernacular and not the bisexual venacular. True that it has almost become mainstream. Those who use it are closer to the gay community thinking and accustomed to conforming to gay language philosophy.

Most bisexuals do not feel part of the gay community and do not cower when bully fags try to pressure with silly 1970 gay culture language.

[pole_smoker]

Reading some bisexual posting leads to believe that this is part of the bisexual philosophy. What percentage, I do not know. If bisexuals believed in coming out, they would.

Terms like "closet queen" are of the gay vernacular and not the bisexual venacular. True that it has almost become mainstream. Those who use it are closer to the gay community thinking and accustomed to conforming to gay language philosophy.

Most bisexuals do not feel part of the gay community and do not cower when bully fags try to pressure with silly 1970 gay culture language.
:rolleyes: It's a slang term that aptly describes you since you're closeted, and a homophobic/biphobic bigot, and a bully/troll. :rolleyes:

It's not necessarily 'gay' slang, or LGBT slang as people can be closeted about lots of things besides their sexuality.

Bisexual people do believe in coming out. My husband and I are out as bisexual as are the majority of bisexual women and men we have met both in NYC and while traveling. But people who are closeted like Tenni are not going to know this. :rolleyes:

[tenni]

"It's not necessarily 'gay' slang, or LGBT slang"

Right Church Lady you are well on your way to being a very bitter old man lashing out at everyone to get off his grass..lol. If "in the closet" has any mainstream influence today acknowledge the source of "in the closet". It is gay...so gay in its origin. It was given a lot of shaming attached to it. In other words bitchy.

You know nothing about me. I'm not in a closet. I believe in standing up and speaking out for bisexual rights. See the difference shit for brains.

Today, no one really cares about someone else coming out. True most bisexuals believe in coming out to themselves. Acknowledging your sexuality to yourself is just that. Decent respectful bisexuals don't ridicule anyone else for making a different decision..that's for old fashion gay radicals who believed in shaming people.

If you want to come across as out of step with the times, keep calling people queens as it is just about as stereotypical gay as you can get.

[pole_smoker]

"It's not necessarily 'gay' slang, or LGBT slang"

Right Church Lady...you seem to know fuck all now. If it has any mainstream influence today acknowledge the source. It is gay...so gay in its origin.

You know nothing about me. I'm not in a closet. I believe in standing up and speaking out for bisexual rights. See the difference shit for brains.

Today, no one really cares about someone else coming out. True most bisexuals believe in coming out to themselves. Acknowledging your sexuality to yourself is just that. Decent respectful bisexuals don't ridicule anyone else for making a different decision..that's for old fashion gay radicals who believed in shaming people.

If you want to come across as out of step with the times, keep calling people queens as it is just about as stereotypical gay as you can get.
Don't like being called out as a bigot or homophobe? Then don't call gay men and lesbian women 'fags' or spew your typical hate speech. :rolleyes: Or try to 'shame' people who post things you personally do not like; but thankfully everyone here knows you're nothing but a random bitchy/cunty internet troll, hater, and bigot. ;)

What would you even know about bisexuals, the so called bisexual community, bisexual issues/LGBT issues, or the larger LGBT community? You don't really have much to do with bisexual or LGBT people unless you're going to hook up with a married bisexual or gay man and be his cum rag and booty call. LOL ;)

So you went to a group for closeted bisexual men once or twice. Big deal. :rolleyes: That doesn't mean you actually publically speak out for bisexual people or LGBT rights since you don't. Posting on message boards on amateur sex and porn sites like this one and other ones does not count at all. ;) :rolleyes:

It's not as though you are actually out and active in your larger LGBT community at all, and there have been chances when you could have came out but did nothing and stayed a coward. DuckiesDarling, LongDuckDong, and others here are correct you are gay and closeted given how much hate and bigotry you spew at gay men, and anyone that's bisexual who you personally do not like because they post things on a bisexual sex and porn site you do not agree with. :rolleyes: :smilies15:disgust:

I called you a closet queen since you are one tenni. You're closeted and effeminate. ;) :rolleyes: :smilies15

If nobody really cares about someone coming out why are you still deeply closeted Jim Riley? :rolleyes:


No, Jim Riley, it isn't. Not editing that out either... hide some more?

Pictures of the bigoted homophobic and biphobic Tenni/Jim Riley:
http://i.imgur.com/Ihl6cZE.jpg

http://www.novacancyart.com/uploads/2/7/3/5/2735897/_1663502.jpg?178

[Cum1st]

:rolleyes: It's a slang term that aptly describes you since you're closeted, and a homophobic/biphobic bigot, and a bully/troll. :rolleyes:

It's not necessarily 'gay' slang, or LGBT slang as people can be closeted about lots of things besides their sexuality.

Bisexual people do believe in coming out. My husband and I are out as bisexual as are the majority of bisexual women and men we have met both in NYC and while traveling. But people who are closeted like Tenni are not going to know this. :rolleyes:

How would you know if you met a closeted Bi or Gay? And isn't closeted a privacy issue, not a right or wrong issue?

[pole_smoker]

How would you know if you met a closeted Bi or Gay? And isn't closeted a privacy issue, not a right or wrong issue?

If someone is bisexual or gay, but closeted it is very obvious to me and my husband; but we have bidar/gaydar.

I have had closeted men approach me in all sort of situations, and environments.

[charles-smythe]

How would you know if you met a closeted Bi or Gay? And isn't closeted a privacy issue, not a right or wrong issue?

…I’m afraid I have to agree wuth you on that one…it’s a privacy thing…a guy can have 100s of legitimate reason to stay closeted…that have nothing to do being a coward…personally I resent the ‘holyer than thou’ attitude of guys who have came out…