Alpha-Male Dick suckers

[pepperjack]

You guys know who I'm talking about! Masculine, dominant alpha -male types who love to suck cock. Is this almost an oxymoron, a contradiction? Let's get some feedback goin'!

[DMercator]

You guys know who I'm talking about! Masculine, dominant alpha -male types who love to suck cock. Is this almost an oxymoron, a contradiction? Let's get some feedback goin'!

Here is something I posted to a friend earlier today "I'm not submissive or famine in any way, but for the first time in my life I have an inkling of what a women must feel like. It seems almost a contradiction to feel a sense of control and empowerment while you're on your knees sucking another man's cock, but there's a sense of accomplishment seeing him fall back on the bed in breathless satisfaction and knowing I did that. "

[pole_smoker]

You guys know who I'm talking about! Masculine, dominant alpha -male types who love to suck cock. Is this almost an oxymoron, a contradiction? Let's get some feedback goin'!

LMAO you really think that you're a masculine, dominant alpha-male? Please who do you think you are fooling besides yourself? :rolleyes:

[pole_smoker]

Here is something I posted to a friend earlier today "I'm not submissive or famine in any way, but for the first time in my life I have an inkling of what a women must feel like. It seems almost a contradiction to feel a sense of control and empowerment while you're on your knees sucking another man's cock, but there's a sense of accomplishment seeing him fall back on the bed in breathless satisfaction and knowing I did that. "

Clearly you are submissive in a major way.

[BiLeo]

Pole Smoker, why are you so negative? Do you feel empowered by passing judgement on people? What is the motivation behind all of this? There is no need to treat people like the way you do.

[pepperjack]

Here is something I posted to a friend earlier today "I'm not submissive or famine in any way, but for the first time in my life I have an inkling of what a women must feel like. It seems almost a contradiction to feel a sense of control and empowerment while you're on your knees sucking another man's cock, but there's a sense of accomplishment seeing him fall back on the bed in breathless satisfaction and knowing I did that. "

Yea, you pretty well got the gist of what I'm talking about.

[pepperjack]

Pole Smoker, why are you so negative? Do you feel empowered by passing judgement on people? What is the motivation behind all of this? There is no need to treat people like the way you do.

I can just imagine...:rolleyes: I suspect jealousy, lousy self-esteem.

[querty]

BiLeo - just put Pole on ignore - To 'ignore' him, go to his profile and in the upper left you'll see the link. After that, having been on his profile, you'll likely feel an irresistible urge to bath in a tub of disinfectant. This is normal and will pass after a few minutes.

Seriously though. Pole's issues run so deep there is no counsel, question, or view point that will penetrate the dark world of his emotional state.

[NjbiGuy01]

Please report each and every Pole Smoker post, so eventually he gets banned ? It's important, as his sole purpose here is to dominate the board and pass judgement on people he doesn't even know. Fuck his sorry ass. 36669

[bi4asplay]

LMAO you really think that you're a masculine, dominant alpha-male? Please who do you think you are fooling besides yourself? :rolleyes:

I have never seen a post by pole that is not negative to the post at hand. Ask the opposite question and he would come back with an answer to attempt to put someone down.
l am very very dominate Alpha male in my everyday life. In my sex life I enjoy both sucking cock and taking a cock in the ass. Even to a couple of subs that we have played with in the past. Restrain him and ride his cock.

[bi4asplay]

Please report each and every Pole Smoker post, so eventually he gets banned ? It's important, as his sole purpose here is to dominate the board and pass judgement on people he doesn't even know. Fuck his sorry ass. 36669

I don't think that I would fuck his ass or face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[charles-smythe]

You guys know who I'm talking about! Masculine, dominant alpha -male types who love to suck cock. Is this almost an oxymoron, a contradiction? Let's get some feedback goin'!
…my opinion only…but I don’t think you can be an alpha and a cocksucker…

[tenni]

The alpha male is a stereotype that idealizes men to the point of being unrealistic. Anything taken to this extreme becomes impossible to live up to. I think that the alpha appearing males who want o suck cock etc. want to go against what everyone believes of them. For some other reasons they want to go against the stereotype that they live their day to day life with. Here is quite the list of what an alpha male is suppose to be.

1. The alpha male is persistent. There’s no quit in this man. He’s the tortose not the hare. He’s the last man standing.
2. The alpha male can defend himself and his family. He can handle himself with his fists, to put it another way.
3. The alpha male is in peak physical shape. He’s strong and athletic as well as aesthetically pleasing to the opposite sex.
4. The alpha male is courageous. He doesn’t lack fear, rather, he accepts that it exists and faces it at every opportunity.
5. The alpha male can entertain. He has a sense of humour and can have a group of people hanging on his every word – he’s a good story teller.
6. The alpha male has stories to tell. He’s lived – and is living – a unique life. He’s made mistakes, but he’s able to find humor in them. He’s had adventures that everyone wants to hear about.
7. The alpha male can laugh at himself. This is an over-looked characteristic of an alpha male, but a necessary one. You can’t make fun of the alpha male because he’ll join in, no one can make fun of him better than he can.
8. The alpha male is humble. Some of this comes from his ability to laugh at himself. No matter what he accomplishes, his head will never balloon, and if it does, he has the ware-with-all to come back down to earth before it gets out of hand.
9. The alpha male is learned, educated. A degree isn’t a prerequisite, but a thirst for knowledge is. He wants to learn, and he does. This helps him relate to people from every social and economic standing. He can converse intelligently with the business man and the preacher. The history buff and the sports nut.
10. The alpha male is a man’s man. He’s a hard guy not to like or want to have a beer with. He’s tough, often quiet, composed, but can joke and shoot the shit with anyone.
11. The alpha male knows the value of every word, he doesn’t talk simply to hear the sound of his own voice. His words are chosen carefully. He respects their power. Whether he’s writing or speaking, he doesn’t speak to be hear, he speaks when he has something of value to say. He’s never the loudest one in the room.
12. The alpha male has a purpose. This may be his most defining trait. Where many wander through life trying to find their Self, the alpha male is too busy creating his Self. Every day he does something to bring himself closer to his goal. He isn’t a wanderer, he’s going places; it’s so obvious that everyone around him can see it.
13. The alpha male is a hard worker. He knows that nothing great is accomplished without hard work and a definite purpose.
14. The alpha male is a warrior not a worrier. He understands that certain things aren’t under his control. He does everything he can to control what he can, but doesn’t worry about what he can’t. He’s not worried about tomorrow, he’s too busy working for today.
15. The alpha male doesn’t pick a fight, but he ends it if he’s in one. He isn’t a bully. He isn’t an emotional wreck that looks for a fight at every corner. But, if the logical thing to do is to fight because the situation calls for it, he will. He’ll also never hit a man when he’s down. He isn’t fighting to destroy, but to defend.
16. The alpha male has style. He takes pride in how he looks and people respect him for that. He also knows how to dress like a man. You’d never call the alpha male a metrosexual.
17. The alpha male knows who he is, his values govern his life. He doesn’t stray from these values, in fact he stands up for them. Even when he stands alone in what he believes is right, he digs his heels in and fights.
18. The alpha male knows how to treat a lady. He respects women, often because he’s had some great one’s in his life. He’s chivalrous.
He helps his lady at every chance. He helps her reach her dreams, all-the-while moving closer to attaining his own.
19. The alpha male isn’t a sucker. He isn’t a clinger. He doesn’t go out of his way to please everyone because that’s a futile endeavor. He won’t let a woman run his life. He’s his own man. Though he worships the ground his lady walks on, he knows how to pick ’em. He won’t be with a control-freak or a jealous woman. He has the social intelligence to see that storm before it peeks it’s nasty little head.
20. The alpha male is a man of value. “Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value.” Einstein knew that success is reached if you’re valuable to others. The alpha male is a man of value and values. He makes the lives of others better by being a part of them.
21. The alpha male helps others, he’s generous. He has his purpose, but he knows that life isn’t merely about accomplishments, but about leaving a legacy. That legacy is how he made others feel, and how he helps others accomplish their dreams.
22. The alpha male is a leader who leads by example. He doesn’t tell people how to live, but lives in the manner he sees as best to live.
23. Alpha males throughout history, Achilles, William Wallace, and Napoleon, saw opportunity where others saw failure. The alpha male will fail, but he won’t see failure as the end. He’s sees it as a necessary part of the experience, a stepping-stone. Knowing this allows him to try things others won’t, and to work harder when others usually quit.

[pepperjack]

From what I can see, most of these are pretty damn good qualities to have.

[tenni]

Pepper
Yes, I agree and a lot of guys will. Can you do them all every day and not show any signs of weakness? I guess those who can seem to want to go against expectations and suck dick? lol Maybe be intentionally submissive.

[pepperjack]

I agree with you also that you make a very valid point. But stereotypes do exist in our daily lives, e.g. ' the sweet little old lady,' ' the jolly fat person. ' Why would I want to try to live up to such an unrealistic extreme? I believe in just being myself & letting the chips fall where they may. Is sucking another man's cock a " sign of weakness, " i.e. being submissive? At the end of the day, I feel good about my masculinity, even if I just got done sucking a guy.

[pole_smoker]

…my opinion only…but I don’t think you can be an alpha and a cocksucker…

Nope, you can't. But Tenni, the original poster Pepperjack, and other trolls here are delusional if they think you can, and they're certainly not Alpha Males or dominant at all. LMAO :rolleyes:

[pole_smoker]

The alpha male is a stereotype that idealizes men to the point of being unrealistic. Anything taken to this extreme becomes impossible to live up to. I think that the alpha appearing males who want o suck cock etc. want to go against what everyone believes of them. For some other reasons they want to go against the stereotype that they live their day to day life with. Here is quite the list of what an alpha male is suppose to be.

1. The alpha male is persistent. There’s no quit in this man. He’s the tortose not the hare. He’s the last man standing.
2. The alpha male can defend himself and his family. He can handle himself with his fists, to put it another way.
3. The alpha male is in peak physical shape. He’s strong and athletic as well as aesthetically pleasing to the opposite sex.
4. The alpha male is courageous. He doesn’t lack fear, rather, he accepts that it exists and faces it at every opportunity.
5. The alpha male can entertain. He has a sense of humour and can have a group of people hanging on his every word – he’s a good story teller.
6. The alpha male has stories to tell. He’s lived – and is living – a unique life. He’s made mistakes, but he’s able to find humor in them. He’s had adventures that everyone wants to hear about.
7. The alpha male can laugh at himself. This is an over-looked characteristic of an alpha male, but a necessary one. You can’t make fun of the alpha male because he’ll join in, no one can make fun of him better than he can.
8. The alpha male is humble. Some of this comes from his ability to laugh at himself. No matter what he accomplishes, his head will never balloon, and if it does, he has the ware-with-all to come back down to earth before it gets out of hand.
9. The alpha male is learned, educated. A degree isn’t a prerequisite, but a thirst for knowledge is. He wants to learn, and he does. This helps him relate to people from every social and economic standing. He can converse intelligently with the business man and the preacher. The history buff and the sports nut.
10. The alpha male is a man’s man. He’s a hard guy not to like or want to have a beer with. He’s tough, often quiet, composed, but can joke and shoot the shit with anyone.
11. The alpha male knows the value of every word, he doesn’t talk simply to hear the sound of his own voice. His words are chosen carefully. He respects their power. Whether he’s writing or speaking, he doesn’t speak to be hear, he speaks when he has something of value to say. He’s never the loudest one in the room.
12. The alpha male has a purpose. This may be his most defining trait. Where many wander through life trying to find their Self, the alpha male is too busy creating his Self. Every day he does something to bring himself closer to his goal. He isn’t a wanderer, he’s going places; it’s so obvious that everyone around him can see it.
13. The alpha male is a hard worker. He knows that nothing great is accomplished without hard work and a definite purpose.
14. The alpha male is a warrior not a worrier. He understands that certain things aren’t under his control. He does everything he can to control what he can, but doesn’t worry about what he can’t. He’s not worried about tomorrow, he’s too busy working for today.
15. The alpha male doesn’t pick a fight, but he ends it if he’s in one. He isn’t a bully. He isn’t an emotional wreck that looks for a fight at every corner. But, if the logical thing to do is to fight because the situation calls for it, he will. He’ll also never hit a man when he’s down. He isn’t fighting to destroy, but to defend.
16. The alpha male has style. He takes pride in how he looks and people respect him for that. He also knows how to dress like a man. You’d never call the alpha male a metrosexual.
17. The alpha male knows who he is, his values govern his life. He doesn’t stray from these values, in fact he stands up for them. Even when he stands alone in what he believes is right, he digs his heels in and fights.
18. The alpha male knows how to treat a lady. He respects women, often because he’s had some great one’s in his life. He’s chivalrous.
He helps his lady at every chance. He helps her reach her dreams, all-the-while moving closer to attaining his own.
19. The alpha male isn’t a sucker. He isn’t a clinger. He doesn’t go out of his way to please everyone because that’s a futile endeavor. He won’t let a woman run his life. He’s his own man. Though he worships the ground his lady walks on, he knows how to pick ’em. He won’t be with a control-freak or a jealous woman. He has the social intelligence to see that storm before it peeks it’s nasty little head.
20. The alpha male is a man of value. “Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value.” Einstein knew that success is reached if you’re valuable to others. The alpha male is a man of value and values. He makes the lives of others better by being a part of them.
21. The alpha male helps others, he’s generous. He has his purpose, but he knows that life isn’t merely about accomplishments, but about leaving a legacy. That legacy is how he made others feel, and how he helps others accomplish their dreams.
22. The alpha male is a leader who leads by example. He doesn’t tell people how to live, but lives in the manner he sees as best to live.
23. Alpha males throughout history, Achilles, William Wallace, and Napoleon, saw opportunity where others saw failure. The alpha male will fail, but he won’t see failure as the end. He’s sees it as a necessary part of the experience, a stepping-stone. Knowing this allows him to try things others won’t, and to work harder when others usually quit.
LMAO as if a made up list from social media actually defines what an alpha male really is. :rolleyes:

Secondly the people here who claim to be LOL 'alpha males' including you and the original poster Pepperjack do not live up to any of these, and are trolls/bullies, and are suckers. ;)

I agree with Charles.

[iwantamouthfull]

I am what would be considered to be an alpha male and not only do I suck cock but when I do I like to be totally dominated and face fucked.

I do not loudly proclaim myself to be an alpha male. The clowns that do are far from being an aloha male. They are hoping to bluff their way along. They are the ones that are the most fun to confront and force to back down. Or beat down if their prude overrides their good sense.

When having sex with women I will sometimes be the dominant one and sometimes be the submissive one depending on what our mood is at the time. But when it comes to sucking cock I am always submissive and like to be dominated. To be "forced" to gag and choke in the cock.

Although I wish to be submissive in this situation I have been told by a female friend that has listened in the phone while I am getting face fucked that even though I am the one gagging, choking and getting cock slapped I still have a way of covertly taking over and running the show. The next time that she listens in she wants me to have my hands behind my back and she wants me to have a fat dildo gag in hand. Whenever I not gagging in cock she wants my mouth to be stuffed with the dildo gag. She says that way I will not be able to take over. Could be very interesting.

[charles-smythe]

I am what would be CI siderrd to be an alpha male and not only do I suck cock but when I do I like to be totally dominated and face fucked.

I do not loudly proclaim myself to be an alpha male. The clowns that do are far from being an aloha male. They are hoping to bluff their way along. They are the ones that are the most fun to confront and force to back down. Or beat down if their prude overrides their good sense.

When having sex with women I will sometimes be the dominant one and sometimes be the submissive one depending on what our mood is at the time. But when it comes to sucking cock I am always submissive and like to be dominated. To be "forced" to gag and choke in the cock.

Although I wish to be submissive in this situation I have been told by a female friend that has listened in the phone while I am getting face fucked that even though I am the one gagging, choking and getting cock slapped I still have a way of covertly taking over and running the show. The next time that she listens in she wants me to have my hands behind my back and she wants me to have a fat dildo gag in hand. Whenever I not gagging in cock she wants my mouth to be stuffed with the dildo gag. She says that way I will not be able to take over. Could be very interesting.
…that’s kinda the description of a submissive rather than an alpha…

[pepperjack]

I'm like you, basically " the strong, silent type, " which is also another stereotype. I believe in being positive, assertive as opposed to aggressive, which is a trait of the stereotypical alpha male. I can respond with counter aggression if necessary & become quite fierce. I have a history of attracting aggression ( being drawn into power struggles ), from other, jealous males in the workplace which is often an environment for these type of conflicts. Also, like you, I like it when a guy knows just how to fuck my mouth in sync with my lustful sucking! Very hot combo!:male:

[pole_smoker]

I do not loudly proclaim myself to be an alpha male. The clowns that do are far from being an aloha male. They are hoping to bluff their way along. They are the ones that are the most fun to confront and force to back down. Or beat down if their prude overrides their good sense.



Exactly. Some people like trolls like pepper jack, tenni, etc. don't get this. :rolleyes:

[pepperjack]

Hot & very windy here today, which makes me think of ps every time I see one of his posts; he's just " pissing into the wind. " Yup, that ignore button works very well! :impleased

[pole_smoker]

Pole Smoker, why are you so negative? Do you feel empowered by passing judgement on people? What is the motivation behind all of this? There is no need to treat people like the way you do.
How is telling the truth being 'negative'? :rolleyes:

[DMercator]

How is telling the truth being 'negative'? :rolleyes:

36671

Number of negative comments about the people posting = 5 (and counting)
Number of comments contributing to the topic of the thread = 0

The question wasn't what you thought about the people posting, it was about whether someone could be an alpha-male and a cock sucker too.

[pole_smoker]

36671

Number of negative comments about the people posting = 5 (and counting)
Number of comments contributing to the topic of the thread = 0

The question wasn't what you thought about the people posting, it was about whether someone could be an alpha-male and a cock sucker too.
Yes, and Charles, and I answered that question. Nothing I have posted is 'negative' stop being a professional complainer for once. :rolleyes:

[Melody Dean]

I have a friend who is what I consider a natural alpha. He's not the loudly proclaiming alpha type, you can't pick him out of a lineup as being alpha, but when with a woman, he has a way of being dominant without using force or saying a word. While I don't normally like the so called alpha type, on this particular woman, he has quite the effect on me.

When with a man though, sexually, he is the complete opposite. He wants to be "used like a beautiful woman." If I didn't know him personally and intimately, I'd be skeptical, but he does take on a submissive role with men.

[pole_smoker]

When with a man though, sexually, he is the complete opposite. He wants to be "used like a beautiful woman." If I didn't know him personally and intimately, I'd be skeptical, but he does take on a submissive role with men.

Then he's not an alpha male at all.

[Melody Dean]

Then he's not an alpha male at all.

I disagree. I don't see why a man couldn't repress that alphaness to want to experience things from the opposite side.

Plus, he's the only man I've ever been with that felt like a natural alpha (as opposed to all the ego posturing pseudo alpha bros). And I don't just mean in the bedroom.

[Visexual]

You know, I was just looking to see how you report someone here and couldn’t find it. And, also, I’d like to know why I have to sign on numerous times before getting onto this site. OK, since I’m on the topic of what to say to the site’s administrator, I can only type a few characters before it starts becoming difficult to type. This is the only website that I have these problems with. So, when it lets me paste, I copy/paste from a word doc.

OK, back to topic at hand…

I would think that most who know me consider me an alpha. I would never refer to myself as such though. I was a master parachutist in my seven years in the military and did a lot of things that most men would never try.

I don’t like to be, or be, dominated at all and never have. I believe that friends don’t treat friends that way and I don’t want sex with someone who isn’t a friend.

I have no feelings at all about being anything but a friend when I suck a friend’s cock. And I don’t have any feelings, other than friendship, when I have my cock sucked.

[pole_smoker]

I disagree. I don't see why a man couldn't repress that alphaness to want to experience things from the opposite side.

Plus, he's the only man I've ever been with that felt like a natural alpha (as opposed to all the ego posturing pseudo alpha bros). And I don't just mean in the bedroom.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

If he's submissive with men then he's not an 'alpha-male' at all.

[cbj4162]

You guys know who I'm talking about! Masculine, dominant alpha -male types who love to suck cock. Is this almost an oxymoron, a contradiction? Let's get some feedback goin'!

For me personally, it all depends on my partner, what we are into and what mood we are in. I am very vers in this way. Whether, i am sub or dom, I still enjoy giving head & receiving.

[pepperjack]

I disagree. I don't see why a man couldn't repress that alphaness to want to experience things from the opposite side.

Plus, he's the only man I've ever been with that felt like a natural alpha (as opposed to all the ego posturing pseudo alpha bros). And I don't just mean in the bedroom.

Now this lady is right on!

[tenni]

With a lot of so called alpha leaders there is a tendency that many/some are sociopaths. There are good and bad sociopaths in leadership roles. The natural leaders may have some traits of sociopaths but use their charisma to good purposes. They may lie a bit about the truth but it ends up for a good purpose.

An interesting point is that some sociopaths think that they are alpha. They think that if they say it is so...it is reality and they are the king. "Reality" is what a sociopath wants it to be and there is no way to sway them to logic etc. Are they really alpha ? They would be the ones denying that they suck cock even with the other guy's cock in their mouth on live tv...not really submissive? It was like Clinton making that statement..It all depends on how you define sex..lol

[pole_smoker]

Now this lady is right on!
Says who? You LMAO? You're not an expert on anything except being an internet troll, and hooking up with random closeted men online. :rolleyes:

Everyone else here knows she's full of shit and is just like that since she will eventually leave her husband for her male fuck buddy that's submissive who she thinks is an 'alpha male'. :rolleyes:

[pole_smoker]

With a lot of so called alpha leaders there is a tendency that many/some are sociopaths. There are good and bad sociopaths in leadership roles. The natural leaders may have some traits of sociopaths but use their charisma to good purposes. They may lie a bit about the truth but it ends up for a good purpose.

An interesting point is that some sociopaths think that they are alpha. They think that if they say it is so...it is reality and they are the king. "Reality" is what a sociopath wants it to be and there is no way to sway them to logic etc. Are they really alpha ? They would be the ones denying that they suck cock even with the other guy's cock in their mouth on live tv...not really submissive? It was like Clinton making that statement..It all depends on how you define sex..lol
A lot of American presidents and even Canadian PMs are this way in that they are megalomaniac. But not necessarily actual sociopaths.

0bama and the Clintons and Bushes are all like this as are pretty much all Democrats and Republicans.

But Canadians are way too complacent when it comes to not questioning their leaders and everything in general. You guys are doormats.

[DMercator]

Yes, and Charles, and I answered that question. Nothing I have posted is 'negative' stop being a professional complainer for once. :rolleyes:

Actually, I'm glad you brought Charles up. His post was...


…my opinion only…but I don’t think you can be an alpha and a cocksucker…


Respectful. Directly addressed the topic of the post. Clearly said it was his opinion, rather than "the truth". Didn't insult anyone. See the difference?

[tenni]

I wonder or propose that there may be a difference in how a person sucks dick to determine if he is acting submissive.

I suggest that an alpha male may suck dick and WILL be in charge. You don't find an alpha on the bottom. He is on top and in control of how the dick is sucked whether his or the other guy's. A guy who is a submissive sucker may be on the bottom and encourages the other guy to go on top. The submissive wants to be "taken" and his mouth used as a receptor. The alpha top never gives up control whether he is sucking or being sucked..He is on top and in control.

However, in his non same sex aspects, the alpha is in charge there and his leadership is seldom questioned. A good alpha may involve others in decisions etc. rather than dictate. They do get their way though and best by persuasion.

[pole_smoker]

I wonder or propose that there may be a difference in how a person sucks dick to determine if he is acting submissive.

I suggest that an alpha male may suck dick and WILL be in charge. You don't find an alpha on the bottom. He is on top and in control of how the dick is sucked whether his or the other guy's. A guy who is a submissive sucker may be on the bottom and encourages the other guy to go on top. The submissive wants to be "taken" and his mouth used as a receptor. The alpha top never gives up control whether he is sucking or being sucked..He is on top and in control.
If a dick is in your mouth, or up your ass you're not an 'alpha male'. :rolleyes: But you would know all about this since you have sucked off more men than most men here. ;)

[Melody Dean]

Says who? You LMAO? You're not an expert on anything except being an internet troll, and hooking up with random closeted men online. :rolleyes:

Everyone else here knows she's full of shit and is just like that since she will eventually leave her husband for her male fuck buddy that's submissive who she thinks is an 'alpha male'. :rolleyes:

That was nicer than I was expecting...

You may think I'm full of shit, but I'm confident in my posts. And I try to be pleasant, open, and understanding.

You may need to clean off your crystal ball, Miss Cleo. Not only am I not leaving my husband, but the friend I'm talking about (who I still insist is an alpha male) is not my current fuck buddy.

[pole_smoker]

That was nicer than I was expecting...

You may think I'm full of shit, but I'm confident in my posts. And I try to be pleasant, open, and understanding.

You may need to clean off your crystal ball, Miss Cleo. Not only am I not leaving my husband, but the friend I'm talking about (who I still insist is an alpha male) is not my current fuck buddy.

That's nice of you.

[pepperjack]

You got it tenni! I'm very much in control when I suck cock! It goes the way I say it does! And being in control doesn't necessarily mean being physically on top. Keep in mind, the more pleasure he's experiencing, the more he's at my mercy. He wants it to keep going, intensify. Women know this; he's actually in a vulnerable position. He has to yield to my control or the pleasure will end.

[pepperjack]

That was nicer than I was expecting...

You may think I'm full of shit, but I'm confident in my posts. And I try to be pleasant, open, and understanding.

You may need to clean off your crystal ball, Miss Cleo. Not only am I not leaving my husband, but the friend I'm talking about (who I still insist is an alpha male) is not my current fuck buddy.

Very classy response! Yes . you do come across as confident; as well as intelligent & articulate.

[tenni]

You got it tenni! I'm very much in control when I suck cock! It goes the way I say it does! And being in control doesn't necessarily mean being physically on top. Keep in mind, the more pleasure he's experiencing, the more he's at my mercy. He wants it to keep going, intensify. Women know this; he's actually in a vulnerable position. He has to yield to my control or the pleasure will end.

I don't completely get your view. I think that it was Melody who wrote recently about topping from the bottom? If I am on the bottom, he is sucking me. I decide when it is enough. You have to let the guy have his fun though too..lol ;) I still feel in control when lying on my back and he is on my dick. You feel that you are in control of his pleasure....I think nope I am in charge of my pleasure but I get what you mean if I let my mind rewind my memory I do recall the pleasure from his technique winning over for a minute...lol

hmm Are Alph males in charge of their orgasm or do they let the other person take charge..? ;)

[jem_is_bi]

Actually, I'm glad you brought Charles up. His post was...



Respectful. Directly addressed the topic of the post. Clearly said it was his opinion, rather than "the truth". Didn't insult anyone. See the difference?
I definitely see the difference. I like a lot about Charles.

[pole_smoker]

Very classy response! Yes . you do come across as confident; as well as intelligent & articulate.
She's not interested in you. But what woman actually is? LOL :rolleyes:

[pole_smoker]

I don't completely get your view. I think that it was Melody who wrote recently about topping from the bottom? If I am on the bottom, he is sucking me. I decide when it is enough. You have to let the guy have his fun though too..lol ;) I still feel in control when lying on my back and he is on my dick. You feel that you are in control of his pleasure....I think nope I am in charge of my pleasure but I get what you mean if I let my mind rewind my memory I do recall the pleasure from his technique winning over for a minute...lol

hmm Are Alph males in charge of their orgasm or do they let the other person take charge..? ;)
"Topping from the bottom" is something that happens during S&M, bondage, or B&D.

"Topping from the bottom" does not happen during vanilla sex like vaginal sex, oral sex, or anal sex...despite what you and Melody want to pretend happens. :rolleyes:

[pole_smoker]

You got it tenni! I'm very much in control when I suck cock! It goes the way I say it does! And being in control doesn't necessarily mean being physically on top. Keep in mind, the more pleasure he's experiencing, the more he's at my mercy. He wants it to keep going, intensify. Women know this; he's actually in a vulnerable position. He has to yield to my control or the pleasure will end.
Who do you think you're kidding? :rolleyes:

You're a submissive cocksucker and love to choke on a man's cock and swallow his cum.

But you've posted a lot about this before.

The majority of women cannot suck dick nearly as well as men can; but there are men like you who are just plain bad at sucking cock. ;)

[pole_smoker]

That was nicer than I was expecting...

You may think I'm full of shit, but I'm confident in my posts. And I try to be pleasant, open, and understanding.

You may need to clean off your crystal ball, Miss Cleo. Not only am I not leaving my husband, but the friend I'm talking about (who I still insist is an alpha male) is not my current fuck buddy.
Your fuck buddy is not an 'alpha male' at all. :rolleyes: you know nothing about what makes someone an alpha male, and the idea that someone is an "alpha male" despite how they submit just shows how you're full of shit as you wrote. But hey, you also believe that someone can LOL "top from the bottom" during vanilla sex acts. LOL :rolleyes:

[pepperjack]

I don't completely get your view. I think that it was Melody who wrote recently about topping from the bottom? If I am on the bottom, he is sucking me. I decide when it is enough. You have to let the guy have his fun though too..lol ;) I still feel in control when lying on my back and he is on my dick. You feel that you are in control of his pleasure....I think nope I am in charge of my pleasure but I get what you mean if I let my mind rewind my memory I do recall the pleasure from his technique winning over for a minute...lol

hmm Are Alph males in charge of their orgasm or do they let the other person take charge..? ;)

Yes, that's what I meant by "what I say goes." Sometimes I climax first, most often I work on his. I've got his climax pretty much under complete control. And then there have been those, you know, guys in their 40's & 50's who couldn't... no matter how hard I tried, but I did try and enjoyed sucking them. :shades:

[pole_smoker]

Yes, that's what I meant by "what I say goes." Sometimes I climax first, most often I work on his. I've got his climax pretty much under complete control. And then there have been those, you know, guys in their 40's & 50's who couldn't...know matter how hard I tried, but I did try and enjoyed sucking them. :shades:
So that's how you got all of the STDs you have and spread to your tricks. ;) :rolleyes:

[pepperjack]

Glad my topic has been able to inspire some spirited debate: actually looks like the bisexual.com I remember at times.

[pole_smoker]

Glad my topic has been able to inspire some spirited debate: actually looks like the bisexual.com I remember at times.
It's not "debate" when we have fools who insist that a guy that sucks dick and takes it up the ass, and who is submissive during sex is an 'alpha male' and that you can have vanilla sex and yet still 'top from the bottom'. :rolleyes:

[Melody Dean]

Your fuck buddy is not an 'alpha male' at all. :rolleyes: you know nothing about what makes someone an alpha male, and the idea that someone is an "alpha male" despite how they submit just shows how you're full of shit as you wrote. But hey, you also believe that someone can LOL "top from the bottom" during vanilla sex acts. LOL :rolleyes:

No, my current fuck buddy isn't an alpha male. But he pleases me, so I'm happy.

We have different views on what makes someone an alpha male, and what topping from the bottom entails. I obviously like my view better. So much of sex is mental, and if seeing my friend as an alpha male when we were together got me off, then in my mind, that's what he is. If I think I can top from the bottom in vanilla sex (although I'm not sure if I think that most of the sex I have is vanilla either...) enhances my experience, then that's what I'm doing.

You obviously have the perfect sex life for you. If alpha males who can bottom, or an exchange of power like topping from the bottom, don't work for you, then I would suggest you don't think of it that way.

[pole_smoker]

No, my current fuck buddy isn't an alpha male. But he pleases me, so I'm happy.

We have different views on what makes someone an alpha male, and what topping from the bottom entails. I obviously like my view better. So much of sex is mental, and if seeing my friend as an alpha male when we were together got me off, then in my mind, that's what he is. If I think I can top from the bottom in vanilla sex (although I'm not sure if I think that most of the sex I have is vanilla either...) enhances my experience, then that's what I'm doing.

You obviously have the perfect sex life for you. If alpha males who can bottom, or an exchange of power like topping from the bottom, don't work for you, then I would suggest you don't think of it that way.

It's not simply my view about topping from the bottom. It is a term used strictly in S/m, bondage, or B/d and not vanilla sex acts.

[pepperjack]

No, my current fuck buddy isn't an alpha male. But he pleases me, so I'm happy.

We have different views on what makes someone an alpha male, and what topping from the bottom entails. I obviously like my view better. So much of sex is mental, and if seeing my friend as an alpha male when we were together got me off, then in my mind, that's what he is. If I think I can top from the bottom in vanilla sex (although I'm not sure if I think that most of the sex I have is vanilla either...) enhances my experience, then that's what I'm doing.

You obviously have the perfect sex life for you. If alpha males who can bottom, or an exchange of power like topping from the bottom, don't work for you, then I would suggest you don't think of it that way.

You're way too civil with this troll Melody. If he had that "perfect sex life"( or maybe you were being facetious ), he wouldn't be how he is. He takes Dickens' Scrooge to an absolutely new level. But then , I applaud you for that civility because you're demonstrating that you're actually more in control than he is. You're more Alpha than he is! :smilies15

[pole_smoker]

You're way too civil with this troll Melody. If he had that "perfect sex life"( or maybe you were being facetious ), he wouldn't be how he is. He takes Dickens' Scrooge to an absolutely new level. But then , I applaud you for that civility because you're demonstrating that you're actually more in control than he is. You're more Alpha than he is! :smilies15

:rolleyes: I am not a troll but you most definitely are. ;)

Where did I ever claim to be an 'alpha male'? I do not identify this way at all, and neither does my partner since we do not get into silly BS games like this like some fools from flyover country do. :rolleyes:

My husband and I have the perfect sex life for us which is far better, and more satisfying than anyone who has ever had the unfortunate experience of having sex with you. ;) :smilies15

[tenni]

We have different views on what makes someone an alpha male, and what topping from the bottom entails. I obviously like my view better. So much of sex is mental, and if seeing my friend as an alpha male when we were together got me off, then in my mind, that's what he is.
Melody
This is an interesting point about sex having a mental component. Sexual interaction goes beyond genitals. It may not be possible for a male to be alpha unless he convinces others that he is the alpha and they agree to accept him as alpha. Unless violence is involved the alpha play may be mostly cerebral according to you post?

[pepperjack]

Pissant wannabe! :smilies15:smilies15

[pole_smoker]

Melody
This is an interesting point about sex having a mental component. Sexual interaction goes beyond genitals. It may not be possible for a male to be alpha unless he convinces others that he is the alpha and they agree to accept him as alpha. Unless violence is involved the alpha play may be mostly cerebral according to you post?

:rolleyes: that is a total contradiction and something only a fool would believe but it is something you wrote, and want to believe much like LMAO you foolishly believe it is possible to top from the bottom for vanilla sex acts like oral sex. :rolleyes:

[pole_smoker]

Pissant wannabe! :smilies15:smilies15

:rolleyes: yes you are perfectly describing yourself now.

http://www.manhuntdaily.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/alpha/r/Riley-Tess-gets-an-enema-from-Jordan-Fox-on-gay-porn-site-UK-Naked-Men-6.jpg

[pepperjack]

Here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059675/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

[Melody Dean]

You're way too civil with this troll Melody. If he had that "perfect sex life"( or maybe you were being facetious ), he wouldn't be how he is. He takes Dickens' Scrooge to an absolutely new level. But then , I applaud you for that civility because you're demonstrating that you're actually more in control than he is. You're more Alpha than he is! :smilies15

I believe all people deserve respect, even those who don't give it on their own.

I stand by my point, he does have the perfect sex life FOR HIM. If it's what makes him happy, then all the power to him. If other's views would make sex less satisfying for him, then I see why he would not want to see things from the other side. He may feel threatened by an alpha male who can be submissive, or he may genuinely think that it's not possible. He has an idea of the way he wants sex to be, and things like topping from the bottom don't fit into that.

And thank you very much for the wonderful compliment.



Melody
This is an interesting point about sex having a mental component. Sexual interaction goes beyond genitals. It may not be possible for a male to be alpha unless he convinces others that he is the alpha and they agree to accept him as alpha. Unless violence is involved the alpha play may be mostly cerebral according to you post?

Oh yes, definitely cerebral. We've never had a discussion about his alpha-ness (which actually is unusual, because we talk about everything), so he didn't consciously convince me he was alpha. But perhaps in body language and the way he converses, there's subtle things that convince me, things that I don't think he consciously does.

[DMercator]

I can certainly understand the seemingly inherent contradiction between being an alpha-male and giving someone a blow job. But if being an alpha-male and giving a blow job are mutually exclusive, does that mean that someone can't be an alpha-male and go down on a woman as well? Or that an alpha-female couldn't go down on her male lover without being submissive? And what of the loving couple where neither party feels a need to be alpha or submissive, they just want to make each other feel good?

As others have articulated so well, if someone feels like they can't be an alpha-maie and go down on a guy without feeling submissive, then they can't. If they feel they can, then they can. Only the people involved can decide who they are and how they feel about themselves.

[matutum]

I'm an alpha male- and for me I show compassion- being sensual- and enjoying sex- being an alpha male to me means being able to show all aspects of being sexual and not worrying about if it's being to gay or what ever- I'm secure in what I do so I don't carry that insecurity around about if I do this am I loosing my alpha status-

[Melody Dean]

I'm an alpha male- and for me I show compassion- being sensual- and enjoying sex- being an alpha male to me means being able to show all aspects of being sexual and not worrying about if it's being to gay or what ever- I'm secure in what I do so I don't carry that insecurity around about if I do this am I loosing my alpha status-

Good point. Confidence and being secure in his sexuality are key traits in being an alpha to me. I also think an alpha male needs to be a natural leader and able to take charge without abusing his power.

[pole_smoker]

I'm an alpha male- and for me I show compassion- being sensual- and enjoying sex- being an alpha male to me means being able to show all aspects of being sexual and not worrying about if it's being to gay or what ever- I'm secure in what I do so I don't carry that insecurity around about if I do this am I loosing my alpha status-

Indeed, this is something tenni, pepperjacj, and the fake 'alpha males' simply do not understand, as they are highly insecure, deeply closeted, and do not have any actual compassion for anyone, and they only care about their own needs and pleasure and not their sexual partners' pleasure or sexual needs at all. :rolleyes:

[pepperjack]

Good point. Confidence and being secure in his sexuality are key traits in being an alpha to me. I also think an alpha male needs to be a natural leader and able to take charge without abusing his power.

Natural born leaders, at some point in their lives, I believe, become aware of that destiny within. And it's a very logical leap that they would be natural alpha males, those who rise to the occasion, just naturally take control. Then you throw resisting the temptation to abuse their power into the mix, makes them rare , exceptional people.

[pole_smoker]

Natural born leaders, at some point in their lives, I believe, become aware of that destiny within. And it's a very logical leap that they would be natural alpha males, those who rise to the occasion, just naturally take control. Then you throw resisting the temptation to abuse their power into the mix, makes them rare , exceptional people.

Yes, but that would not describe you at all, since you are just a man with lots of rage. :smilies15 :rolleyes:

[pepperjack]

I can certainly understand the seemingly inherent contradiction between being an alpha-male and giving someone a blow job. But if being an alpha-male and giving a blow job are mutually exclusive, does that mean that someone can't be an alpha-male and go down on a woman as well? Or that an alpha-female couldn't go down on her male lover without being submissive? And what of the loving couple where neither party feels a need to be alpha or submissive, they just want to make each other feel good?

As others have articulated so well, if someone feels like they can't be an alpha-maie and go down on a guy without feeling submissive, then they can't. If they feel they can, then they can. Only the people involved can decide who they are and how they feel about themselves.

It appears as a contradiction, maybe, on the surface, but it's really not that complex. All true leaders at some point realize they must know how to 'follow' as well at times. Why does the president meet & consult with his advisers before making a crucial decision? It's a matter of humility & knowing one's limits.

Yes, there's a certain amount of submission involved in " going down, " but so what? It's a mutual decision arrived at between the two involved.

Ultimately, the stronger spirit, personality, will prevail.

[pole_smoker]

It appears as a contradiction, maybe, on the surface, but it's really not that complex. All true leaders at some point realize they must know how to 'follow' as well at times. Why does the president meet & consult with his advisers before making a crucial decision? It's a matter of humility & knowing one's limits.

Yes, there's a certain amount of submission involved in " going down, " but so what? It's a mutual decision arrived at between the two involved.

Ultimately, the stronger spirit, personality, will prevail.

:rolleyes: sex is not a contest. But as usual you are full of shit. smilies15 ;) :rolleyes:

If you love to suck dick, or be submissive during sex you are not a LMAO 'alpha male'. But cowardly closet queen pepperjack knows his role is to be sumbissive, on his knees with a dick in his mouth or up his ass the way he learned his life's role in prison as a turned out bottom bitch boi the multiple times he went to prison. :smilies15 ;) :rolleyes:

[pepperjack]

Deaf ears here, asshole! :impleased

[pole_smoker]

Deaf ears here, asshole! :impleased

Bottom boi, who do you think you are kidding? I know you reply to my posts which are correct about you since you are nothing but a deeply closeted Internet troll with rage problems. :smilies15 :rolleyes:

[pepperjack]

I can honestly say I have never had another man's dick in my ass; you, on the other hand seem to be obsessed with it, you submissive BITCH! In prison, that's the ultimate expression of dominance & humiliation!:devil:

[pole_smoker]

I can honestly say I have never had another man's dick in my ass; you, on the other hand seem to be obsessed with it, you submissive BITCH! In prison, that's the ultimate expression of dominance & humiliation!:devil:

You are a horrible liar. :smilies15

Nope, I have never bottomed or taken a cock up my ass. I am not into submission, dominance, humiliation, V/A or any of those silly fake sexual posturing games; but you sure are. :rolleyes:

When my doctor does a prostate exam on me I find that very uncomfortable, and painful. So I have never bottomed since I do not want to. My husband and I are not really that anally inclined the way most bi and gay men are.

I post polls about anal sex since most bi and gay men are bottoms or passive for it, and are anally inclined.

[DMercator]

If a dick is in your mouth, or up your ass you're not an 'alpha male'. :rolleyes: But you would know all about this since you have sucked off more men than most men here. ;)

So, just to be clear... that would mean you are not an alpha-male, since you're on a bisexual site and presumably have had a cock in your mouth at some point. Personally, I don't consider that an insult, but the way you keep poking the "you're not an alpha-male" statement in everyone else's eye, you seem to think it is.

[DareMe]

Is the alpha male always a top? or can he also be a bottom? I can see the answers now, if he is a bottom than he is being dominated. is he really? or is he giving someone a privilege?

[tenni]

Is the alpha male always a top? or can he also be a bottom? I can see the answers now, if he is a bottom than he is being dominated. is he really? or is he giving someone a privilege?

I see your thought as an explanation and rationalization. You may give someone the privilege of a home cooked meal made by you. You still are not the king being served. You are the servant.

[DMercator]

I see your thought as an explanation and rationalization. You may give someone the privilege of a home cooked meal made by you. You still are not the king being served. You are the servant.

So would that make all women (without a strap-on) subservient?

[tenni]

So would that make all women (without a strap-on) subservient?

hmm No I do not get that connection? A woman may be on top without a strap on. She may control when and how a man's penis is inserted in to her while she sits on top of a guy. She may take control of the sex play. Alpha is not about anal penetration imo.

[DMercator]

hmm No I do not get that connection? A woman may be on top without a strap on. She may take control of the sex play. Alpha is not about anal penetration.

Now I don't get the connection. Is it the body position or the fact that it's anal? A man can be on top (just like a woman) and take just as much control of the sex play. Please understand, I tend to think like you do on this topic, but when I think it through I'm not sure that isn't just my own bias regarding gender roles.

[pole_smoker]

Is the alpha male always a top? or can he also be a bottom? I can see the answers now, if he is a bottom than he is being dominated. is he really? or is he giving someone a privilege?
If someone's an 'alpha male' or dominant then they're not going to bottom, take it up the ass, or suck cock.

[pole_smoker]

hmm No I do not get that connection? A woman may be on top without a strap on. She may control when and how a man's penis is inserted in to her while she sits on top of a guy. She may take control of the sex play. Alpha is not about anal penetration imo.
She's still getting fucked so she is not the one 'in control', and the majority of men even if they are bisexual do not want to have a woman put anything up their ass.

[tenni]

Now I don't get the connection. Is it the body position or the fact that it's anal? A man can be on top (just like a woman) and take just as much control of the sex play. Please understand, I tend to think like you do on this topic, but when I think it through I'm not sure that isn't just my own bias regarding gender roles.


I know. Confusing.:yikes2: ;)

I'm guessing alpha is the leader regardless of their gender? But the body position with strap on? I don't see one comment about sex in that list of alpha traits.

[pole_smoker]

I know. Confusing.:yikes2: ;)

I'm guessing alpha is the leader regardless of their gender? But the body position with strap on? I don't see one comment about sex in that list of alpha traits.
Sex isn't a contest or about who is 'in control' except to people who are not LMAO 'alpha' at all. :rolleyes: Much like yourself, pepperjack, and Melody's fuck buddy, and others who claim to be 'alpha'...yet submit by taking a cock or dildo up their ass or pussy, or in their mouth. :rolleyes:

[Melody Dean]

She's still getting fucked so she is not the one 'in control', and the majority of men even if they are bisexual do not want to have a woman put anything up their ass.

So are you saying since the woman is the one being penetrated, she can never be in control?

[pole_smoker]

So are you saying since the woman is the one being penetrated, she can never be in control?
Not unless they are doing completely non-penetrative sex acts that involve things like actual fetishes, S&M, B&D, bondage, etc. and the other man/men, women/woman, or group of people is submitting to her but no actual penetrative sex happens to her like fellatio, cunnilingus, anal sex, nobody penetrates her ass or vagina with a finger, hand/arm, sex toy, and regular vaginal sex doesn't happen to her at all with a penis in her vagina.

[Melody Dean]

Not unless they are doing completely non-penetrative sex acts that involve things like actual fetishes, S&M, B&D, bondage, etc. and the other man/men, women/woman, or group of people is submitting to her but no actual penetrative sex happens to her like fellatio, cunnilingus, anal sex, or vaginal sex.

Huh, interesting point of view.

Do you believe that men can be raped without the man being penetrated?

[pole_smoker]

Huh, interesting point of view.

Do you believe that men can be raped without the man being penetrated?

If it is touching then it would be more along the lines of sexual assault/sexual abuse, or even physical abuse depending on what happened. If penetration of the ass or mouth happens without consent by a man or men to another man or men that is rape.

[BiBedBud]

What I don't understand (not that I've read the whole thread) is the concept of their being a heirarchy, an ALPHA-BETA anything; and also, I don't get all the 'one-way' language. Sex is an interchange, and exchange, there is flow -- back and forth -- and it goes in both directions. Perhaps the meaning and significance of each facet of what flows is an individual value judgement (which I abandon during such times, chosing instead to lose myself); but there is no way actual sex can go in one direction like that (as suggested by so much of what so many of you have written previously in this thread).

I just don't get it -- don't think I want to, either.

(Conceivably, I can imagine prostitution becoming this way for the pro; but again, that's not something I know anything about. Nor do I want to.)

[pepperjack]

So, just to be clear... that would mean you are not an alpha-male, since you're on a bisexual site and presumably have had a cock in your mouth at some point. Personally, I don't consider that an insult, but the way you keep poking the "you're not an alpha-male" statement in everyone else's eye, you seem to think it is.

Touche', DM! I kind of wish half of what he accused me of were true, him excluded of course. :smilies15

[pepperjack]

What I don't understand (not that I've read the whole thread) is the concept of their being a heirarchy, an ALPHA-BETA anything; and also, I don't get all the 'one-way' language. Sex is an interchange, and exchange, there is flow -- back and forth -- and it goes in both directions. Perhaps the meaning and significance of each facet of what flows is an individual value judgement (which I abandon during such times, chosing instead to lose myself); but there is no way actual sex can go in one direction like that (as suggested by so much of what so many of you have written previously in this thread).

I just don't get it -- don't think I want to, either.

(Conceivably, I can imagine prostitution becoming this way for the pro; but again, that's not something I know anything about. Nor do I want to.)

Yes, there is a hierarchy; exactly my point in post#62. Much like wolves & other highly social, intelligent animals.

[pole_smoker]

So, just to be clear... that would mean you are not an alpha-male, since you're on a bisexual site and presumably have had a cock in your mouth at some point. Personally, I don't consider that an insult, but the way you keep poking the "you're not an alpha-male" statement in everyone else's eye, you seem to think it is.
I've never claimed to be an 'alpha male' or any other thing like that as it's all rather silly and pointless. But the people who claim that they're LOL 'alpha males' are not this way and should actually practice what they claim to. :rolleyes: :smilies15

[pole_smoker]

Yes, there is a hierarchy; exactly my point in post#62. Much like wolves & other highly social, intelligent animals.

That doesn't sound like the attitude and response of a man. It sounds like the response of a barnyard animal, or pond scum; but all of your posts and threads appear as self-justification for your trashy, and low behavior, and/or seeking approval of others for it. :rolleyes:

No there's not an actual hierarchy; but fools that want to pretend that they're LMAO "alpha males" will pretend there's one when in reality these people are people who have no morals or standards, and they do not know the first thing about actually being a man, or being honest with anyone.

You want to treat sex as an animal game, think of yourself as a LMAO 'alpha male' when you're clearly not, and just follow every impulse of your genitals, then you're pretty much sub-human with no morals and no regard for anyone except yourself and your pleasure and needs. :smilies15 :rolleyes:

[pepperjack]

Got 'n obvious fish on the line; started out as a nibble, natch.....testing. Now he obviously wants my mouth on his dick! Closer to my age but a bodybuilder who apparently has a nice cock. And he's coming across with the 'dominance ' attitude, but I'm playing him ; can tell how hot & bothered he is by his responses, e-mails.;) Yup :smilies15

[cbj4162]

Here is something I posted to a friend earlier today "I'm not submissive or famine in any way, but for the first time in my life I have an inkling of what a women must feel like. It seems almost a contradiction to feel a sense of control and empowerment while you're on your knees sucking another man's cock, but there's a sense of accomplishment seeing him fall back on the bed in breathless satisfaction and knowing I did that. "

........ Exactly !!!! :)