Help needed in the UK

[prssrs]

Hi all,
This is a cry for help from my wife after I told her the truth about my bi-sexuality
after 30 years together and 22 happy years of marriage.

Of course it was total shock for her and she now questions my love for her and
feels I'm going to run off with the first man that shows me any attention.

We want our marriage to last forever and she has given me permission to 'play away'
safely.

I am a good looking man and look younger than my 46 years so I have had a couple
of experiences.
The times I am away, my wife is extremely distraught and cries for days after the event.

She is desperate to speak to the wives of other bi men to see how they cope and have come to
terms with their husbands lifestyle.


I/we would appreciate any advise.

She is not looking for an open relationship and does not want to seek out other male partners.

[Fzmr9t]

I hope that you get some insightful information. Beware of the trolls. If you hav not done so already, the "ignore" option works very well

[prssrs]

Thank you so much.
I appreciate the advice.

[SilkyHoseLover]

In before pole_smoker posts an irrelevant photo of a guy with an 'unmutilated' cock and makes judgmental, derogatory remarks about the original poster! :bigrin:

I'm in a similar position to you, prssrs. Wife and I used to swing a bit, and I had a couple of experiments with M-M oral sex. It turned out that I liked it a lot, and was pretty open and enthusiastic about accepting that I am bisexual. I believe that it alarmed my wife, although she didn't really let on that it did. At any rate, we stopped playing with others, which has left me on the threshold of new sexual adventures and disappointed.

We discussed it recently, and she's given me permission to play, as your wife has. I'm eager to take her up on the offer, but I'm fearful that she might react the same way your wife did, if I were to actually follow through on it. I don't know whether to tell her when I have something planned or keep it on the Q.T. I'm afraid that she'd be sitting at home thinking about it while I was actually doing it and that it would bother her, despite the fact that she says it's ok.

I'll be following this thread closely, and hope that both men and women will weigh in with intelligent and helpful comments.

[charles-smythe]

In before pole_smoker posts an irrelevant photo of a guy with an 'unmutilated' cock and makes judgmental, derogatory remarks about the original poster! :bigrin:

I'm in a similar position to you, prssrs. Wife and I used to swing a bit, and I had a couple of experiments with M-M oral sex. It turned out that I liked it a lot, and was pretty open and enthusiastic about accepting that I am bisexual. I believe that it alarmed my wife, although she didn't really let on that it did. At any rate, we stopped playing with others, which has left me on the threshold of new sexual adventures and disappointed.

We discussed it recently, and she's given me permission to play, as your wife has. I'm eager to take her up on the offer, but I'm fearful that she might react the same way your wife did, if I were to actually follow through on it. I don't know whether to tell her when I have something planned or keep it on the Q.T. I'm afraid that she'd be sitting at home thinking about it while I was actually doing it and that it would bother her, despite the fact that she says it's ok.

I'll be following this thread closely, and hope that both men and women will weigh in with intelligent and helpful comments.

…a lot of guys on here talk about coming out to their wives & how good it turns out…well there was a post lately about a guy who came out & everything looked rosey…but it wasn’t…I always recommend keeping your mouth shut…but its already too late for that…since it up sets your wife so bad…& you don’t want a divorce…make here think you stopped playing…& then do it on tht QT…what she doesn’t know won’t hurt her…she’ll be far happier…

[pole_smoker]

Eventually your wife is not going to like you having sex with men or want an open relationship or open marriage anymore, as most people do not want this.

If you want your marriage and relationship with your wife to last and actually work, stay monogamous.

[prssrs]

Thanks for your advice Charles.
Unfortunately, my personality would not allow me to do that.

We we are best friends as well as husband and wife, hence my writing this thread to get the help she so wants.
To stop doesn't feel an option and to carry on and not say anything also wouldn't work as I'm a terrible liar and
would be found out immediately.

[pole_smoker]

Don't cheat on her, and don't have sex with other men since she would not like this and it would ruin your marriage.

Instead just jerk off to fantasies or porn, and have sex with each other.

http://33.media.tumblr.com/c02aec2d891068ccb54387beace81aa6/tumblr_mxlp4jCxMs1s4ah51o1_400.gif

[prssrs]

Is that what you do Pole_Smoker?
i suspect not. ��

[Melody Dean]

Hi all,
This is a cry for help from my wife after I told her the truth about my bi-sexuality
after 30 years together and 22 happy years of marriage.

Of course it was total shock for her and she now questions my love for her and
feels I'm going to run off with the first man that shows me any attention.

We want our marriage to last forever and she has given me permission to 'play away'
safely.

I am a good looking man and look younger than my 46 years so I have had a couple
of experiences.
The times I am away, my wife is extremely distraught and cries for days after the event.

She is desperate to speak to the wives of other bi men to see how they cope and have come to
terms with their husbands lifestyle.


I/we would appreciate any advise.

She is not looking for an open relationship and does not want to seek out other male partners.

While my husband is not bi, I do have an affinity for bi men. I also have an open marriage. Please, encourage her to create an account and PM me, I would be happy to talk to her and perhaps help.

[prssrs]

Thank you Melodie, I'll ask her to do that.

[pole_smoker]

Is that what you do Pole_Smoker?
i suspect not. ��
I'm not married to a woman. My husband and I are monogamous, and bisexual.

Yes that is what we do.

[prssrs]

Congratulations.

[Annika L]

Hi all,
This is a cry for help from my wife after I told her the truth about my bi-sexuality
after 30 years together and 22 happy years of marriage.

Of course it was total shock for her and she now questions my love for her and
feels I'm going to run off with the first man that shows me any attention.

We want our marriage to last forever and she has given me permission to 'play away'
safely.

I am a good looking man and look younger than my 46 years so I have had a couple
of experiences.
The times I am away, my wife is extremely distraught and cries for days after the event.

She is desperate to speak to the wives of other bi men to see how they cope and have come to
terms with their husbands lifestyle.


I/we would appreciate any advise.

She is not looking for an open relationship and does not want to seek out other male partners.

Hello prssrs,

I feel for both of you. I strongly recommend the book "Opening Up" by Tristan Taormino...and I recommend that you read it together (one of you read it to the other, and stop and discuss at relevant times)...and if you can help it, do this before any further extramarital activity. Taormino gives really good and thorough information about non-monogamous relationships, including different styles of relationships (not just "open"), the issues that can arise, and how people deal with them. It's well-written, reasonably unbiased, and includes lots of exercises for partners to discuss or work through (as well as lots of vignettes of people in non-monogamous relationships and their candid feelings).

I wish you luck...and feel free to message me to discuss in more detail or for additional perspective.

Ah! And I should also recommend strongly seeing a therapist together...preferably one who specializes in bisexuality (or sexuality issues generally) or polyamory, if you can find a good one.

[pole_smoker]

Hello prssrs,

I feel for both of you. I strongly recommend the book "Opening Up" by Tristan Taormino...and I recommend that you read it together (one of you read it to the other, and stop and discuss at relevant times)...and if you can help it, do this before any further extramarital activity. Taormino gives really good and thorough information about non-monogamous relationships, including different styles of relationships (not just "open"), the issues that can arise, and how people deal with them. It's well-written, reasonably unbiased, and includes lots of exercises for partners to discuss or work through (as well as lots of vignettes of people in non-monogamous relationships and their candid feelings).

I wish you luck...and feel free to message me to discuss in more detail or for additional perspective.

Ah! And I should also recommend strongly seeing a therapist together...preferably one who specializes in bisexuality (or sexuality issues generally) or polyamory, if you can find a good one.
Reading books and seeing a counselor or therapist is not going to help them especially when the wife does not actually really want her husband to have sex with anyone else, and does not really want them to have an open relationship or open marriage at all.

[prssrs]

Hello prssrs,

I feel for both of you. I strongly recommend the book "Opening Up" by Tristan Taormino...and I recommend that you read it together (one of you read it to the other, and stop and discuss at relevant times)...and if you can help it, do this before any further extramarital activity. Taormino gives really good and thorough information about non-monogamous relationships, including different styles of relationships (not just "open"), the issues that can arise, and how people deal with them. It's well-written, reasonably unbiased, and includes lots of exercises for partners to discuss or work through (as well as lots of vignettes of people in non-monogamous relationships and their candid feelings).

I wish you luck...and feel free to message me to discuss in more detail or for additional perspective.

Ah! And I should also recommend strongly seeing a therapist together...preferably one who specializes in bisexuality (or sexuality issues generally) or polyamory, if you can find a good one.


Thanks for the book recommendation.
I'll be buying that.

I hope we can also find wives that are available to chat to as well.
I know that to hear from them, both good & bad will help her immensely.

[Hypersexual11]

When my wife and I discussed it, she said she would be ok with me having an fwb. I looked and found another safe married guy. We would meet about every other week. I noticed that she was pretty shaken up after I had seen him. One day she was very depressed. She told me she wished she had been born a hermaphrodite so she could please me. It's gotten to where having to tell her I have been with someone is so difficult that I just don't see guys alone. She may want to know, but I can't sit there and cause that pain. So now I live in constant fear that the pressure, the desire to suck a dick will get so strong that I will make a big mistake.

I know this is no help and not what you are looking for. I don't think your wife is ever going to be OK with this. Your options are to not do anything (my advise), go behind her back (what she doesn't know wont hurt her, but you have to deal with the guilt), or do it, tell her and hope she gets used to it. Maybe, doubt it. Women want to be your everything. They don't understand why this need exists, probably thinks you are on your way to gay. Tons of self esteem issues.

My wife has read books trying to understand bisexuality. She knows that there are people that for some reason are wired to need certain aspects of gay sex without the emotion. Understanding this helps, but people are wired how they are wired. Learning can help understand, but won't necessarily change how they feel inside.

Good luck, keep us posted

[sysper]

it's a tough situation..............ask urself which is more important, finding urself or being with ur wife. either way 1 of u has grief. how much do u love ur wife? not trying to judge the right answer is the true answer but u gotta ask urself that question & u might have to think about it for awhile.

[Melody Dean]

Hello prssrs,

I feel for both of you. I strongly recommend the book "Opening Up" by Tristan Taormino...and I recommend that you read it together (one of you read it to the other, and stop and discuss at relevant times)...and if you can help it, do this before any further extramarital activity. Taormino gives really good and thorough information about non-monogamous relationships, including different styles of relationships (not just "open"), the issues that can arise, and how people deal with them. It's well-written, reasonably unbiased, and includes lots of exercises for partners to discuss or work through (as well as lots of vignettes of people in non-monogamous relationships and their candid feelings).

I wish you luck...and feel free to message me to discuss in more detail or for additional perspective.

Ah! And I should also recommend strongly seeing a therapist together...preferably one who specializes in bisexuality (or sexuality issues generally) or polyamory, if you can find a good one.

I think I'll pick up that book too.

[prssrs]

It's such a shame.
There must be wives out there.

There are countless bi married men, so where are the wives or are they
just not willing to speak out?

sad.

[charles-smythe]

When my wife and I discussed it, she said she would be ok with me having an fwb. I looked and found another safe married guy. We would meet about every other week. I noticed that she was pretty shaken up after I had seen him. One day she was very depressed. She told me she wished she had been born a hermaphrodite so she could please me. It's gotten to where having to tell her I have been with someone is so difficult that I just don't see guys alone. She may want to know, but I can't sit there and cause that pain. So now I live in constant fear that the pressure, the desire to suck a dick will get so strong that I will make a big mistake.

I know this is no help and not what you are looking for. I don't think your wife is ever going to be OK with this. Your options are to not do anything (my advise), go behind her back (what she doesn't know wont hurt her, but you have to deal with the guilt), or do it, tell her and hope she gets used to it. Maybe, doubt it. Women want to be your everything. They don't understand why this need exists, probably thinks you are on your way to gay. Tons of self esteem issues.

My wife has read books trying to understand bisexuality. She knows that there are people that for some reason are wired to need certain aspects of gay sex without the emotion. Understanding this helps, but people are wired how they are wired. Learning can help understand, but won't necessarily change how they feel inside.

Good luck, keep us posted …this supports my advice to never tell…if you would have done your cocksucking on the down-low…she would never know &* not be hurt & you would be satisfying your bi urges…

[open2joy]

Sounds like mostly rubbish to me. If you are in a relationship, you share the "lobster", the "magic fingers" and the "unicorns" together. Really, what's the point of finally getting what you have wanted if you can't share every bit of it with your partner? Stop focusing on your needs and start viewing this as the perfect team exercise. Or, are you going to be the jealous one when he/she starts to like it as much as you do?

Liars an deniers are creepy in this particular life category. Start with the solid one you have.

[prssrs]

Sounds like mostly rubbish to me. If you are in a relationship, you share the "lobster", the "magic fingers" and the "unicorns" together. Really, what's the point of finally getting what you have wanted if you can't share every bit of it with your partner? Stop focusing on your needs and start viewing this as the perfect team exercise. Or, are you going to be the jealous one when he/she starts to like it as much as you do?

Liars an deniers are creepy in this particular life category. Start with the solid one you have.


I'm not sure which part you find 'Rubbish' and to be honest,
I don't understand your reply.

Perhaps you can explain?

I am bi-sexual and am out to my wife of 22 years.

She is hetrosexual and is not looking for an open relationship.

Who is the liar / denier ?

[pole_smoker]

I'm not sure which part you find 'Rubbish' and to be honest,
I don't understand your reply.

Perhaps you can explain?

I am bi-sexual and am out to my wife of 22 years.

She is hetrosexual and is not looking for an open relationship.

Who is the liar / denier ?

Either stay completely monogamous with your wife, or get a divorce and have sex with whoever you want.

Forcing your wife into an open relationship or open marriage is only going to end your marriage since she does not want to be in one.

I agree that you should stop focusing on only your sexual needs as a marriage and relationship, are much more than just one selfish person's sexual needs and using your sexual orientation to force an open marriage on someone who does not want one at all.

[prssrs]

Either stay completely monogamous with your wife, or get a divorce and have sex with whoever you want.

Forcing your wife into an open relationship or open marriage is only going to end your marriage since she does not want to be in one.

I agree that you should stop focusing on only your sexual needs as a marriage and relationship, are much more than just one selfish person's sexual needs and using your sexual orientation to force an open marriage on someone who does not want one at all.

Please tell me where I have written or even hinted I want her to enter an open relationship.

The way you live your life is exactly that, the way YOU live your life.
My post asks for advise from the wives of bi husbands, both good and bad.
Most on here ask me to ignore your responses.
I'm giving you the opportunity to perhaps, instead of coming up with your broken record of an answer, not because it's not the answer
I'm looking for, but because I know there are plenty of marriages this scenario works for.

As you always seem to be on this forum, I'm sure you'll have plenty of time to write me back with an answer.

[pole_smoker]

Please tell me where I have written or even hinted I want her to enter an open relationship.

The way you live your life is exactly that, the way YOU live your life.
My post asks for advise from the wives of bi husbands, both good and bad.
Most on here ask me to ignore your responses.
I'm giving you the opportunity to perhaps, instead of coming up with your broken record of an answer, not because it's not the answer
I'm looking for, but because I know there are plenty of marriages this scenario works for.

As you always seem to be on this forum, I'm sure you'll have plenty of time to write me back with an answer.
In your original post. Don't you remember writing it?

No, an open marriage or open relationship does not work out for 'plenty' of marriages or relationships...unless you want to get a divorce or split apart as a couple.

The majority of women do not want an open marriage, but most people do not want one either.

Your wife clearly does not want you to fuck or suck other men, and you seem bent on getting your own way and refuse to listen to any advice that is not telling you what you want to hear..which is that you cannot force your wife or anyone into doing something they do not want to do. In your case it would be having an open marriage as your wife has made it clear she does not want this at all.

No I am not always on this site, I just happen to be able to type fast.

[prssrs]

In your original post. Don't you remember writing it?

No, an open marriage or open relationship does not work out for 'plenty' of marriages or relationships...unless you want to get a divorce or split apart as a couple.

The majority of women do not want an open marriage, but most people do not want one either.

Your wife clearly does not want you to fuck or suck other men, and you seem bent on getting your own way and refuse to listen to any advice that is not telling you what you want to hear..which is that you cannot force your wife or anyone into doing something they do not want to do. In your case it would be having an open marriage as your wife has made it clear she does not want this at all.

No I am not always on this site, I just happen to be able to type fast.


Ahhhh, now I see why people say to ignore you.
You are indeed an imbecile, with your blinkered view.

You've used that, "I type fast" non funny joke before.
It wasn't funny the first time.

Boring!!!

[charles-smythe]

When my wife and I discussed it, she said she would be ok with me having an fwb. I looked and found another safe married guy. We would meet about every other week. I noticed that she was pretty shaken up after I had seen him. One day she was very depressed. She told me she wished she had been born a hermaphrodite so she could please me. It's gotten to where having to tell her I have been with someone is so difficult that I just don't see guys alone. She may want to know, but I can't sit there and cause that pain. So now I live in constant fear that the pressure, the desire to suck a dick will get so strong that I will make a big mistake.

I know this is no help and not what you are looking for. I don't think your wife is ever going to be OK with this. Your options are to not do anything (my advise), go behind her back (what she doesn't know wont hurt her, but you have to deal with the guilt), or do it, tell her and hope she gets used to it. Maybe, doubt it. Women want to be your everything. They don't understand why this need exists, probably thinks you are on your way to gay. Tons of self esteem issues.

My wife has read books trying to understand bisexuality. She knows that there are people that for some reason are wired to need certain aspects of gay sex without the emotion. Understanding this helps, but people are wired how they are wired. Learning can help understand, but won't necessarily change how they feel inside.

Good luck, keep us posted …what guilt…if its going to make you feel guilty don’t do it…

[pole_smoker]

Ahhhh, now I see why people say to ignore you.
You are indeed an imbecile, with your blinkered view.

You've used that, "I type fast" non funny joke before.
It wasn't funny the first time.

Boring!!!
:rolleyes: You asked for advice. Do not complain when myself and other people give you advice that you personally do not want to hear.

If you force your wife into an open relationship or open marriage, or go off and have sex with men or other people your marriage will end.

You said you want your marriage or relationship with your wife to work and last.

Stay monogamous, that is if you really do love and care for your wife. You've been married for 22 years and have been monogamous all this time, it should not be that difficult to stay monogamous.

[Ja&Ve]

As the wife, I would be distraught too. I do not want to have my husband having sex without me. It's sort of the "what the point of being married then?" If he is getting sex or intimacy from someone else what am I here for? What is my purpose?

That at being said, if we did things together, I'd be much better. Because it would be experiences that continue to bond us as a couple.

And since he knows his, he would not hurt me. You know this hurts her. Likely not tomorrow or even next week, but eventually you are going to lose her if you keep doing it and she keeps freaking out. Sorry

[pole_smoker]

As the wife, I would be distraught too. I do not want to have my husband having sex without me. It's sort of the "what the point of being married then?" If he is getting sex or intimacy from someone else what am I here for? What is my purpose?

That at being said, if we did things together, I'd be much better. Because it would be experiences that continue to bond us as a couple.

And since he knows his, he would not hurt me. You know this hurts her. Likely not tomorrow or even next week, but eventually you are going to lose her if you keep doing it and she keeps freaking out. Sorry
Well said, exactly. The original poster and other fools who condone cheating and telling the guy to go out and have sex with men are gutless cowards who should not even be married or in a relationship since they cannot talk to their partner or spouse as a rational adult. :rolleyes:

But if you read the original poster's profile on here, he is looking for random men to hook up with, date, and probably did cheat on his wife before he ever told her he is bisexual, gay, or not heterosexual. :rolleyes:

The original poster just wants to rationalize that it is OK for him to cheat, and force his wife into an open marriage when she has no desire to be in one and wants to be monogamous.

[Ja&Ve]

The other problem that happens is that you moved too quickly. Once you out yourself, you need to be monogamous and work heavily on your relationship for at least a year before you branch out. You need that woman completely secure in what is happening. She needs time to mourn for what she thought she had, she needs lots of conversation to know what is and what is not. And a shit-ton of reassurance so her self esteem isn't shattered. That means rocking her world sexually, loving on her making her feel great. Instead of running off and playing like a kid in a candy store.

Also you may be with a woman who just flat out doesn't like the idea and risk of being with a promiscuous person. I'm lucky. My husband is not. And he dislikes the idea of putting himself or his wife at risk with promiscuous behaviors. Heck, that's a lot of reason we marry. It lessons those risks and allows all of our living attention to be placed with that other person.

Now if you both are fine with non monogamy, great! Have fun. But if one isn't, you are asking to lose your relationship.

[prssrs]

As the wife, I would be distraught too. I do not want to have my husband having sex without me. It's sort of the "what the point of being married then?" If he is getting sex or intimacy from someone else what am I here for? What is my purpose?

That at being said, if we did things together, I'd be much better. Because it would be experiences that continue to bond us as a couple.

And since he knows his, he would not hurt me. You know this hurts her. Likely not tomorrow or even next week, but eventually you are going to lose her if you keep doing it and she keeps freaking out. Sorry

Recently ( in the last few days )she has changed.

I have never ,nor would I ever put pressure on her to enter an open relationship.

Shoe knew I was meeting a guy and was very interested to ask questions about how things went and
what we got up to.
( I have always been very honest and open since telling her )

Our own sex life is amazing and it has always been pretty good.

I did ask the question would she ever consider a 3some with another man.
This time, rather than a flat NO WAY, I got a, if I lost a bit more weight.

I'd love to share my experience with her.

[Ja&Ve]

How long has she known?

tell her not to stress over her weight I'm a U.S. 16 and can still make heads turn and can't keep my husband's hands off me. Most people are horribly average anyways and have little reason to be super picky. I'm mean hell look what the people around here are willing to suck and fuck....

[prssrs]

How long has she known?

tell her not to stress over her weight I'm a U.S. 16 and can still make heads turn and can't keep my husband's hands off me. Most people are horribly average anyways and have little reason to be super picky. I'm mean hell look what the people around here are willing to suck and fuck....

Well I think she's perfect.
She has had 3 kids and looks great to me.

She has known for around 3 months now.

She is a UK size 14 now.

[Ja&Ve]

That puts her at a U.S. 12 if I remember my conversions correctly. It's a good size. I'm working on getting back to that. I have to go see an endocrinologist though. I'm having thyroid issues that need fixing. My second pregnancy did a number on my system hormonally.

so then what she is needing is time. The time to get used to things. At three month post disclosure I actually had my worst freak-outs. Almost a year and a half later and I am only now feeling comfortable and he hasn't even stepped out on me. She may also feel a loss of control (likely the reason she asks for every detail of your adventures) and who knows, given enough time and communication, you'll have the best of all worlds. Keep rocking her world and showing her how special she is and what she means to you. Try to keep your outside dalliances to a minimum so she isn't freaking on you as much. And when you do, establish a ritual that re-bonds the two of you afterwards. She's going to feel inadequate likely when you come back because your sexual energies are in need of satisfaction by someone other than her and likely that saddens her. Are you orally inclined? Anally? Would her pegging you scratch the itch? Would she open to that?

[prssrs]

Well I guess I am orally inclined.
Yesterday was my first anal experience.

Actually, yesterday was a day of many firsts.

As I met my wife at school, we have been together since we were 16.
was the first time I had ever worn a condom, so that was different.

Also, I'm Jewish, so cut. I know it's quite common in the U.S. but not
so much here in Europe.
Seeing an uncut cock ( up close & personal) was a new experience too.

My previous encounters (only 2) had been cut.

What was nice was being able to share openly with my wife and her
to not get angry and to actually, as she said, be happy for me.
I know that will sound weird to many people, but these were her words.

We have come a long way in a very short space of time.
I hope we continue on this path.

She he said it uses up far too much energy being angry and hurt.
She knows very well I love her with all my heart and that my intention is to spend
the rest of my life with her.

We also had the best sex that night.

Pegging???

Googling what that is now (sorry)


............

Wow, I have led a sheltered life, that goes on!!!!!

Well that's an option. X

[charles-smythe]

Well I guess I am orally inclined.
Yesterday was my first anal experience.

Actually, yesterday was a day of many firsts.

As I met my wife at school, we have been together since we were 16.
was the first time I had ever worn a condom, so that was different.

Also, I'm Jewish, so cut. I know it's quite common in the U.S. but not
so much here in Europe.
Seeing an uncut cock ( up close & personal) was a new experience too.

My previous encounters (only 2) had been cut.

What was nice was being able to share openly with my wife and her
to not get angry and to actually, as she said, be happy for me.
I know that will sound weird to many people, but these were her words.

We have come a long way in a very short space of time.
I hope we continue on this path.

She he said it uses up far too much energy being angry and hurt.
She knows very well I love her with all my heart and that my intention is to spend
the rest of my life with her.

We also had the best sex that night.

Pegging???

Googling what that is now (sorry)


............

Wow, I have led a sheltered life, that goes on!!!!!

Well that's an option. X
…congrats…

[Ja&Ve]

It's a delicious option. My joke is that no one gets to fuck his ass but me. And I come in different sizes, thicknesses, and forms. I never go soft, and never cum too soon. And very often, he cums without touching himself. :D

[tenni]

What was nice was being able to share openly with my wife and her
to not get angry and to actually, as she said, be happy for me.
I know that will sound weird to many people, but these were her words.

We have come a long way in a very short space of time.
I hope we continue on this path.

She he said it uses up far too much energy being angry and hurt.
She knows very well I love her with all my heart and that my intention is to spend
the rest of my life with her.
X

That is lovely!!! Your wife is a woman who loves you very much and is not possessive or jealous. She knows that loving someone is wanting them to be happy. She has separated physical sex acts from emotional love.

CONGRATS!

What some people do mix up is pegging with m2m sex imo. There is more to men having same sex acts than penetration. The need for male intimacy is the main reason and not being pegged for some bi guys. A woman can not give that. She can give f/m intimacy.

[prssrs]

It's a delicious option. My joke is that no one gets to fuck his ass but me. And I come in different sizes, thicknesses, and forms. I never go soft, and never cum too soon. And very often, he cums without touching himself. :D

Love it. X

[Ja&Ve]

True, if male intimacy is what you are craving, no amount of pegging by a woman will likely alleviate that need. However, a just cock/sensation based person likely would be. My husband is pansexual as we have discovered so his needs and wants may likely be very different from your needs and wants. He just finds all sex acts and all human forms beautiful. He is a switch so his needs waver between needing to be dominant and needing to be submissive. He really doesn't care which gender fills that need, he just wants a soul who will understand this and indulge him in it, plumbing non-withstanding.

[prssrs]

That is lovely!!! Your wife is a woman who loves you very much and is not possessive or jealous. She knows that loving someone is wanting them to be happy. She has separated physical sex acts from emotional love.

CONGRATS!

What some people do mix up is pegging with m2m sex imo. There is more to men having same sex acts than penetration. The need for male intimacy is the main reason and not being pegged for some bi guys. A woman can not give that. She can give f/m intimacy.

Thanks Charles, I do appreciate that.

My favourite part, as I've mentioned before is the kissing\holding, with both my wife and the man I'm with.

My wife, because I love the feel of her soft breasts against my chest

and the man because they just kiss differently and the feel of his cock as it goes hard
against me as we enjoy each other's mouths.

[tenni]

I wonder sometimes if men who are really looking for prostrate stimulation and satisfied by a woman penetrating them are some unique bisexual men. Maybe they are not bisexual since they are not sexually and/or emotionally attracted to both genders?

I think that Ja may be correct about pansexuals having unique needs. If gender of your lover does not matter and "the person" is who you are attracted to, can you have impersonal sex and the act is purely physical? I don't know but it is curious segmenting all the various people under the bisexual umbrella.
What do you think pansexuals need Ja?

[prssrs]

I wonder sometimes if men who are really looking for prostrate stimulation and satisfied by a woman penetrating them are some unique bisexual men. Maybe they are not bisexual since they are not sexually or emotionally attracted to both genders? I think that Ja may be correct about pansexuals having unique needs. If gender of your lover does not matter and "the person" is who you are attracted to, can you have impersonal sex and the act is purely physical? I don't know but it is curious segmenting all the various people under the bisexual umbrella.


i just think it goes to show that we all different and require
different aspects of each gender to satisfy our needs.

[Ja&Ve]

Yeah, I'm really glad he's pan vs bi and all his intimacy needs are fulfilled by me. It would be impractical for him to be involved with all the gender identities he finds attractive so I have less issue with being worried about being left over something he likes more than me. I would have serious problems with sharing him in that manner. I can barely tolerate the idea of physically sharing him. Emotionally sharing is a hard limit I'm afraid I can't get past. But it's also one of his hard limits so we're good there.

[pole_smoker]

Recently ( in the last few days )she has changed.

I have never ,nor would I ever put pressure on her to enter an open relationship.

Shoe knew I was meeting a guy and was very interested to ask questions about how things went and
what we got up to.
( I have always been very honest and open since telling her )

Our own sex life is amazing and it has always been pretty good.

I did ask the question would she ever consider a 3some with another man.
This time, rather than a flat NO WAY, I got a, if I lost a bit more weight.

I'd love to share my experience with her.
Actually, yeah you are pressuring her into an open relationship or open marriage; but you have posted about this frequently.

It's a pity that your penis was mutilated without your consent. Most Jewish people in UK and the rest of Europe do not practice genital mutilation on their sons.

That's good that you communicated with your wife and did not make her feel left out; but what about the other 2 times you posted about? Was she annoyed you did that without her?

[pole_smoker]

Most people are horribly average anyways and have little reason to be super picky. I'm mean hell look what the people around here are willing to suck and fuck....
LMAO too true! I find it odd how many people here have extremely low standards or will suck and fuck anyone...even if they are obese! :yikes2:

[pole_smoker]

I wonder sometimes if men who are really looking for prostrate stimulation and satisfied by a woman penetrating them are some unique bisexual men. Maybe they are not bisexual since they are not sexually and/or emotionally attracted to both genders?

I think that Ja may be correct about pansexuals having unique needs. If gender of your lover does not matter and "the person" is who you are attracted to, can you have impersonal sex and the act is purely physical? I don't know but it is curious segmenting all the various people under the bisexual umbrella.
What do you think pansexuals need Ja?
:rolleyes: When people here use the term Pansexual they are just simply using another term or synonym for being bisexual.

There are rare people who are actually apparently pansexual or even omni-sexual; but these people are into doing things that are illegal and sick, or they are sexually attracted to things that most people are not and I do not mean transgender/transvestite people, or hermaphrodites either.

[pole_smoker]

Well I guess I am orally inclined.
Yesterday was my first anal experience.

Actually, yesterday was a day of many firsts.

As I met my wife at school, we have been together since we were 16.
was the first time I had ever worn a condom, so that was different.

Also, I'm Jewish, so cut. I know it's quite common in the U.S. but not
so much here in Europe.
Seeing an uncut cock ( up close & personal) was a new experience too.

My previous encounters (only 2) had been cut.

What was nice was being able to share openly with my wife and her
to not get angry and to actually, as she said, be happy for me.
I know that will sound weird to many people, but these were her words.

We have come a long way in a very short space of time.
I hope we continue on this path.

She he said it uses up far too much energy being angry and hurt.
She knows very well I love her with all my heart and that my intention is to spend
the rest of my life with her.

We also had the best sex that night.

Pegging???

Googling what that is now (sorry)


............

Wow, I have led a sheltered life, that goes on!!!!!

Well that's an option. X
Are you going to let your wife or some guy fuck you up the butt?

[prssrs]

Are you going to let your wife or some guy fuck you up the butt?

Is that an offer pole_smoker?

You naughty man!