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JackTexas94
Jan 5, 2015, 9:42 PM
Recently I lucked out and met a cool guy. Long story short when we got together he was more paranoid than I am about STD so insisted on wearing a condom for oral sex. He was the first guy I have ever sucked off until he ejaculated while wearing a condom. I did empty the contents of it in my palm and used it as a lube to finish myself with as it watched and that was HOT!

JaredT77
Jan 6, 2015, 10:33 AM
I have seen that shit in porn and I think the first time I got laid, she put on a condom to suck my cock. I don't remember, I was shitfaced drunk my first time. All I can say is WHY????? WHAT POSSIBLE PLEASURE CAN A MAN GET FROM GETTING HIS COCK SUCKED WHILE WEARING A FUCKING CONDOM?!!!! NO FUCKING PLEASURE WHATSOEVER!!!

Personally I hate condoms. Takes the fun out of sex. I understand the reasons and benefits on why people should wear condoms. With my fiancee, I never wear condoms but if a man was to fuck me, he would have to put on the "glove" or no love. But if I am going to suck a man's cock, then I want to feel his cock in my warm mouth and on my tongue or what's the point? My fiancee and I were talking about this one guy possibly being our friend with benefits and allowing him to fuck us both without a condom. He is infertile so he can't get her pregnant but still the risks of sexual diseases despite if he is just fucking her and I.

But a blowjob with a condom on? That's just lame.

Cutiliae
Jan 6, 2015, 12:43 PM
I gave a guy a blowjob with a condom once (his choice), we really didn't know each other and he was married. I sucked and got him going without it at first and when he was hard he put it on and came in about 1 minute. I prefer not using them but it is safer with them if you don't know the person.

BiBedBud
Jan 6, 2015, 2:07 PM
I gave a guy a blowjob with a condom once (his choice), we really didn't know each other and he was married. I sucked and got him going without it at first and when he was hard he put it on and came in about 1 minute. I prefer not using them but it is safer with them if you don't know the person.
^^^^
I don't think that qualifies as safe sex. If you 'got him going' without it to start, you've defeated the safe-sex purpose of using a condom. If the sucker has cooties in their throat, all it would take is a moment to pass that along. It isn't just at the moment of climax that a man is susceptible to infection. If the sucker had an STD in their throat, that initial sucking bare-cock would be enough to transmit it to the suckee.


As for the 'pleasureability' of oral sex with a condom; this is IMO among the most important reasons why especially circumsized men hate condoms: Having a 'nerve signal' that is already habituated at a lower-level; knocking down even more feeling with a barrier is tantamount to turning that signal off altogether. Uncircumsized men -- I think (being one myself) -- can still feel enough to enjoy getting sucked while wearing a good quality (thin) rubber. Particularly nowadays, with these non-latex ultra thins (PU, or polyurethane, same as saran wrap but premium grade) condoms; the thinness and *superior heat transfer* compared to latex condoms means there is still a lotta love for condom-clad cocks, particularly the uncut ones.

For the sucker, the new (non-latex synthetic) condoms are also preferred; because they taste basically neutral.


Found this article with suggestions (various sizes): http://luckybloke.com/blogs/news/8701299-i-m-latex-sensitive-what-are-the-best-non-latex-condoms

Last minute Googling also revealed another brand with a different material from PU http://www.lifestyles.com/tag/non-latex/

tenni
Jan 6, 2015, 2:45 PM
If a guy wants to involve condoms with oral sex, I decline the oral sex. I'm not that crazy giving head as is and so it is no great loss. Kissing, jo and body contact work fine for me.

pole_smoker
Jan 6, 2015, 3:59 PM
When I was single I would rather have masturbated alone or masturbated with a man than give/get oral sex with a condom on.

The same goes for the idea of giving a woman oral sex while she has a piece of latex over her twat, or being sucked off by a woman while I wear a condom.

I'm not cut or mutilated but oral sex is meant to be experienced without a condom or latex dental dam.

If I think the person has STDs then I would not have sex with them.

My partner and myself do not use condoms for oral sex but neither of us have any sort of STDs, and condoms are only used when I give him anal sex.

mikeyd270
Jan 6, 2015, 4:04 PM
Personally I am not going to suck on rubber. I'll do without.

AGuyIKnow
Jan 6, 2015, 4:07 PM
When I was single I would rather have masturbated alone or masturbated with a man than give/get oral sex with a condom on.

The same goes for the idea of giving a woman oral sex while she has a piece of latex over her twat, or being sucked off by a woman while I wear a condom.
This amazing! I can't believe Pole actually seems normal. I actually agree with him! It's like the sun just came out.

JaredT77
Jan 6, 2015, 4:27 PM
I love eating pussy probably more than I enjoy sucking cock. I have never had to eat pussy thru a dental dam before. To me, that's for high school virgins. People just have to realize that when you have sex, no matter the gender, you are always taking a risk of getting stds. That's especially said for strangers having sex. With couples, the risks are decreased. Add in multiple partners, cheating or not and the risks increase. My fiancée and I know the risks and taking precautions like using condoms especially but I will never suck a man's cock if he insists on wearing a condom. Despite my fucking language I fucking use, my fucking mouth is probably more fucking cleaner than his fucking cock! Lol!

AGuyIKnow
Jan 6, 2015, 4:38 PM
Eating pussy through a dam would be like licking a balloon.

The one that gets me, is blowing someone with a condom and the emptying the cum into their mouth. What? :yikes2:

JaredT77
Jan 6, 2015, 4:47 PM
Eating pussy through a dam would be like licking a balloon.

The one that gets me, is blowing someone with a condom and the emptying the cum into their mouth. What? :yikes2:

Yeah really defeats the purpose. First the oral sex with a condom or dental dam just seems like a waste of time and not very enjoyable. Second the condom and dental dam is used to prevent stds but if you're swallowing someone's load, you might be guzzling down any stds they might have.

AGuyIKnow
Jan 6, 2015, 5:32 PM
...you might be guzzling down any stds they might have.
Now there's an awful thought.

Dunmor
Jan 6, 2015, 5:37 PM
Never!

JackTexas94
Jan 6, 2015, 10:32 PM
Hey better than nothing...and walked away disease and worry free

mike_smallwood
Jan 7, 2015, 1:28 PM
As much as sex with a condom may not be pleasurable and the fact there is a misconception that oral sex is quite safe, this might actually not be the case. Unless you absolutely know the other person very well sex without a condom is definitely not advisable. The facts are that even with a condom, one can still get a variety of STD's, therefore why would anyone not want to reduce the odds by using a condom? This is especially so if you are cheating and in a committed relationship where you supposedly care about your partner and your family. Below are some useful links to better understand STDs.

http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/rm-quiz-stds?ecd=wnl_menC_091314_tempC&ctr=wnl-men-091314-tempC_ld-stry&mb=TIvJsNJU9kxBbNpwa%2fjvamdEpmNqbUHLY30G3pZYJlY%3 d


http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/rm-quiz-stds?ecd=wnl_sxr_091314&ctr=wnl-sxr-091314_ld-stry&mb=


http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/ss/slideshow-std-pictures-and-facts?ecd=wnl_sxr_101814&ctr=wnl-sxr-101814_nsl-ld-stry&mb=

There are many more sites on the internet which contain a wealth of information about STD's if a simple google search is done. The more people would follow these simple guidelines, the less the spread of STDs would be and this would also reduce the treat of STD's making unprotected sex in the future safer.

tenni
Jan 7, 2015, 1:59 PM
"This is especially so if you are cheating and in a committed relationship where you supposedly care about your partner and your family."

Each person takes care of their own personal safety whether they are single, bisexual, heterosexual or homosexual. Being in a relationship should not mean an automatic "pass jail" pass. Communicating and listening to a person who may become your sexual partner is of key importance whether you are in a monogamous or poly lifestyle.

Many, many of us do not use condoms for oral sex regardless of our sexuality. Many, many of us have not gotten an STD from condom free, oral sex whether single or in a partnered relationship. Inciting panic or failing to report STD rates in the general population does not help and especially when the "c" word is used to moralize.

Does anyone know of a studying examining oral sex where sexuality and style of relationship are reported as well as use of condoms for oral sex?

*one of Mike's links states that condoms do not protect a person from all STD's.

Again, use your wits about who you engage in sex with. Your senses and brain are the best condoms against STD. If in doubt, pass on the opportunity.

Cutiliae
Jan 7, 2015, 4:13 PM
I'm currently corresponding (about 10 days) with a guy via Craigslist and we met in a public place yesterday. He is looking for a NSA cocksucker, so that would be me. His ad said he was 58 but he's more like around 62 to 65; he drove a decent look vehicle and seemed ok so far. In our email exchange he said he was married but when we met I noted he wasn't wearing a ring (not all married men do). He also said that his wife doesn't want to have sex anymore, which I find hard to believe. At our meeting yesterday he was expecting to follow me to my house for a blowjob, however, my radar was up and I was not comfortable so we chatted some more and he tried to again get me to take him home. Since our meeting we both agreed that doing it in a secluded private place or the porn store arcade would be the best options.

We may do it soon and I usually don't use condoms but in this case I think I will. When I informed him of the condom use he replied that I may have to suck on him so he gets hard first. I'm kind of mixed. When he told me he was retired and he told me where had worked. He also told me where he lived which is near me. I snooped around and found his car parked in an apartment complex. I thought to myself if he retired from the job he said he had and was married, plus having lived in this town for many years, what the hell is he doing living in a mediocre apt complex?

Anyway, red flags are up with regard to truth, but I would like to make something work. We will see. His said he only received about 3 hits on his ad and they were all "flakes" and I may just end up being one too.

tenni
Jan 7, 2015, 4:45 PM
Interesting Cut
The most significant red flag that I read from your post was that he wants you to suck him to get him hard..then a condom. If I have that correct, it may be too late to put a condom on him if you suck him to get him hard. It isn't just cum that you need to be aware of. Couldn't bacteria and viruses could get in your mouth before the condom?

Your other red flags don't disturb me too much but suggests more discussion may be needed to get clarification. He may have suffered a financial loss and had to move to cheaper apartments. If so, he may not be too comfortable disclosing that he really lost his job to a foolish mistake or the economy. Did you ask him if he lived in a house or apartment before meeting? That helps sometimes get an understanding of his financial standing. I ask what type of job the guy has after running into a couple of con guys. If they are not working and beyond a stage to be a student check for alcohol and drug possibilities. It seems awful to be so carefu/judgingl but it may be worth it.

As far as a fifty-sixty year old woman cutting her husband off sex, that is a very common situation in long term marriages based on my research..lol.

Bottom line, is if it doesn't feel right don't.

Cutiliae
Jan 7, 2015, 5:28 PM
Thanks for the input. I'll see how things go...I may be just a tad paranoid too.

pole_smoker
Jan 7, 2015, 6:05 PM
As far as a fifty-sixty year old woman cutting her husband off sex, that is a very common situation in long term marriages based on my research..lol.
Actually no it's not common for women to do this, and it's not an excuse for anyone to cheat on their wife or husband.

But your "research" is highly biased, and you hate women or having relationships with women.

Cutiliae
Jan 7, 2015, 6:20 PM
Actually no it's not common for women to do this, and it's not an excuse for anyone to cheat on their wife or husband.


It most certainly is an excuse.

AGuyIKnow
Jan 7, 2015, 6:27 PM
Actually no it's not common for women to do this, and it's not an excuse for anyone to cheat on their wife or husband.

But your "research" is highly biased, and you hate women or having relationships with women.

Does he do this on purpose to piss people off enough to get a reactionary discussion, or is he just being a natural ass?

mike_smallwood
Jan 7, 2015, 6:47 PM
"This is especially so if you are cheating and in a committed relationship where you supposedly care about your partner and your family."

Each person takes care of their own personal safety whether they are single, bisexual, heterosexual or homosexual. Being in a relationship should not mean an automatic "pass jail" pass. Communicating and listening to a person who may become your sexual partner is of key importance whether you are in a monogamous or poly lifestyle.

Many, many of us do not use condoms for oral sex regardless of our sexuality. Many, many of us have not gotten an STD from condom free, oral sex whether single or in a partnered relationship. Inciting panic or failing to report STD rates in the general population does not help and especially when the "c" word is used to moralize.

Does anyone know of a studying examining oral sex where sexuality and style of relationship are reported as well as use of condoms for oral sex?

*one of Mike's links states that condoms do not protect a person from all STD's.

Again, use your wits about who you engage in sex with. Your senses and brain are the best condoms against STD. If in doubt, pass on the opportunity.

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Iam sorry if I offended anyone from a morality point of view, but thatwas not the intent.

Froma factual point of view having unprotected sex can expose yourpartner (usually someone you care about in a committed relationship,which is why I used the "c" word before) to STDs:
-withouttheir knowledge
-withoutbeing part of the decision making process
-withouttheir consent or input to assess the situation (determined by theirbrain)
-goesway beyond any decision making regarding one's personalsafety

Unfortunatelythis puts "in the line of fire" others for which the personhaving unprotected sex does not have the right to do. Additionally,if the relationship does fall apart as a result of an indiscretionand was 'found out' by havingpassed on an STD thenthe children will also suffer and be collateral damage as a result ofthe breakup (Children do suffer regardless of the cause of a breakup,hence the reason I am trying to keep this discussion around STDs andthe potential fallout).

Moreimportantly if the STD happens to be a deadly onewhich is passed on to the unsuspecting partner this constitutes amuch greater issue that some might consider criminal (assuming youwere not aware that you had such an STD), and is a criminal offenceif you are aware that you have such an STD without taking precautionsand/or informing the other person prior to having sex with them. Inthese circumstances the brain is NOT the best condom (nor the onlybrain that should be involved) to protect against STDs.

Thereis no morality involved here, only a logical flow of what can, hasand will continue happened when safety is not at the forefront. If aperson is unattached and wants to take chances with his/her healththat is your decision and I will not pass judgement on, nor will Icondemn your decisions as I do believeone should be able to make decisions for oneself.However risking the health and well being of others without theirknowledge or consent is a very different matter. Keeping this inmind, when one decides to have a monogamist relationship followingconsensual risky sex, then that person should see a doctor (who hasbeen made aware of your sexual activities) prior to engaging in sexwith the new partner. I believe that when two or more people areengaged in sexual activities and/or a relationship thenall stakeholders needto know the fact in order to make the best decisionsregarding their personalsafety.

Hereis another site which speaks to the various STDs that can betransmitted by oral sex with and without acondom.
http://std.about.com/od/riskfactorsforstds/a/oralsexsafesex.htm

Additionalsites with good information regardingSTDs:
http://www.cdc.gov/std/
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/sexually-transmitted-diseases-stds/in-depth/std-symptoms/art-20047081
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexually_transmitted_disease

Wecan only make the best decisions if we have the facts and understandthem. Again I am not trying to pass any moral judgement, nor preachany morality, I simply want to pass on pertinent information so thatwe can all make the best educated decisions regarding our personalsafety and that all stakeholders deserve the same consideration.

tenni
Jan 7, 2015, 6:50 PM
I know a couple where both have different STD. They have been married for fifteen years (together about 19 years) and have not transmitted their STD to their partner. They were not cheating nor had a family when the discovered that past heterosexual lovers had given them an STD. They are healthy and happy with a nine year old daughter that was conceived without condoms. The child nor partners have caught any STD. For regular sex they usually use condoms but not all the time. Their STD are not curable but are not life threatening either. No cheaters were injured by making this post...lol

Mike
Thanks for the links.

When a partner refuses to have sex with you, it is not an excuse to go out and have sex with someone else. It is a reason. This thread is abouout having casual oral sex and not about a reason why a person has oral sex.

pole_smoker
Jan 7, 2015, 7:13 PM
It most certainly is an excuse. I'm 54 and married and have grown more bi over the years. My wife has no idea of my love for cock.
No it's not an excuse.

If you think that a wife/husband/partner not having sex with you aymore is an excuse why even stay married to someone who you supposedly love, and care for yet cheat on? :rolleyes:

JaredT77
Jan 7, 2015, 9:02 PM
No it's not an excuse.

If you think that a wife/husband/partner not having sex with you aymore is an excuse why even stay married to someone who you supposedly love, and care for yet cheat on? :rolleyes:

Yeah if someone's not happy being married and the sex is boring and routine, not to mention the spouse being selfish, why bother being married? I should have divorced my ex a couple years before she divorced me. I went 5 years of not having sex with anybody but my (ex)wife including 2012, our last year being married where I had sex twice that year. Wasn't until she said she wanted a divorce a couple of years ago did I finally have a sex with a man, on her birthday. But I tried my very best not to cheat on her before she said she wanted the divorce.

Pole_smoker, even though you can be a asshole (and I do consider you a friend on here) I do respect you for your morals. You do come off as sounding harsh but then again, a lot of people on this site need some thicker skin. I swear these people have paper thin skin. I respect you because even though you are bisexual, you choose to stay faithful to the man you love. And while others choose to want other men to "breed" them, you do point out the fact that it's dangerous and good chance of getting stds. Of course you say it in your own harsh way but it's better than these people suffering the harsh reality of getting stds after having unprotected sex. But some dumbasses need to learn the hard way and get infected with sexually transmitted diseases.

tenni
Jan 7, 2015, 9:47 PM
"Yeah if someone's not happy being married and the sex is boring and routine, not to mention the spouse being selfish, why bother being married?"
This is clearly off topic about condoms and oral sex.

What I hear is that the men are happily married out side of getting no sex at all from their wife. Sometimes, there is no sex for multi years including 5 - 10 years without sex from their wives. Outside of there is no sex, the marriage is working very well for these men. Instead of looking for another woman, they look for another man to have mostly oral sex as a starting point and often that is all that they are looking for. Since the wife has ended sex years ago, she won't get an STD from her husband even if he is careless.

JaredT77
Jan 7, 2015, 9:58 PM
"Yeah if someone's not happy being married and the sex is boring and routine, not to mention the spouse being selfish, why bother being married?"
This is clearly off topic about condoms and oral sex.

What I hear is that the men are happily married out side of getting no sex at all from their wife. Sometimes, there is no sex for multi years including 5 - 10 years without sex from their wives. Outside of there is no sex, the marriage is working very well for these men. Instead of looking for another woman, they look for another man to have mostly oral sex as a starting point and often that is all that they are looking for. Since the wife has ended sex years ago, she won't get an STD from her husband even if he is careless.

Off topic? tenni, sometimes I wonder if you really are bisexual.

What I was saying was that even though I was not happily married, I still stayed faithful to my now ex-wife and that I respect Pole_smoker for his faithfulness to his male lover even though they are both bisexual. Absolute 0% chance of getting ANY SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASES!!

Back on topic, the first time I met my ex-wife, was at her place where she got me naked while she kept on her clothes. After some really good kissing, she was sucking my cock until I shot my load in her mouth in which she swallowed. I did not wear a condom while she was sucking my cock. My fiancee, the first time we had sex, ended up giving me a really good rimjob even though she has never done that before. I did not wear a dental dam on my ass while she was tongue fucking me.

Not to start a fight, tenni, but who are you? Thread and Blog Police of Bisexual.com?

tenni
Jan 7, 2015, 10:13 PM
Jared
I'm a bisexual man who has been in love with both women and men. That goes a bit farther bisexually than a lot of guys on here who only want to suck cock imo.

I am also aware that sometimes trolls take a thread off topic to their favourite themes and sometimes posters accidentally slip off the topic. I hope that you are not against being literate on this site? This thread is about oral sex and the use of condoms. It is not about moral judgement of others, infidelity and cheaters any more than which country won the other evening's World Junior Hockey Champions (Canada btw lol).

Sounds like you are a luck bugger with the ladies in your life :)

JaredT77
Jan 7, 2015, 10:26 PM
Jared
I'm a bisexual man who has been in love with both women and men. That goes a bit farther than a lot of guys on here who only want to suck cock.
I am also aware that sometimes trolls take a thread off topic to their favourite themes. This thread is about oral sex and the use of condoms. It is not about infidelity.

Sounds like you are a luck bugger with the ladies in your life :)

Alright, tenni, I give you credit for being truly bisexual. You are right about a lot of men claiming to be bisexual but only enjoy sucking a man's cock. Just seems that they are more straight than bisexual. I actually stumbled across some gay pictures when I was younger and made me actually want to have sex with men. I don't mind men kissing me or being affectionate with me. I do try to be more affectionate with men but more used to being with women.

I'm not trying to be another troll but that's a matter of opinion. I may not see myself as being a troll but others might think so. That goes for anybody. And yes, this topic is not about infidelity but giving another man oral pleasure through the use of a condom which I find lame. Another thing that is lame is sucking cock and then guzzling the cum out of the condom. That really defeats the purpose.

I do have my luck with the ladies and sometimes I strike out but I always do try and be myself. I tell them that I am bisexual and I enjoy having sex with men from time to time.

connor J
Jan 8, 2015, 1:18 AM
I prefer do without

Cutiliae
Jan 13, 2015, 7:53 PM
I went ahead and hooked up with my new CL friend and have given him three blowjobs so far, no condom. I just couldn't bring myself to use one.