What shall we do with a run away pole smoker?

[BareHunter45]

Has this gone on long enough?

[Melody Dean]

I get your point, but this is no less annoying.

[Annika L]

I get your point, but this is no less annoying.

On the contrary, this at least is clever and entertaining!

[AGuyIKnow]

There should have been a poll at the top so that a higher percentage wouldn't need to type anything.

[BiBedBud]

The solution to this kind of “problem” is quite simple (I think). It is a technical solution. Allow me to explain:

I participate in several internet discussion forums, on various topics. Bisexualdotcom is the only forum that I frequent, that is ‘below the belt’ in its area of interest. It is also the only forum I frequent that is run on ‘VBulletin’ software (and also the least moderated forum I visit). All of this has created the ‘perfect storm’ for the BS we can witness in many (most!) of these threads and posts.

Understand: Spamming and trolling are a problem all over the internet, and discussion forums are an old battleground where thinking people must deal with spammers and trolls in order to get to talking about adult things. Other software systems have many tools inbuilt, to deal with spammers and trolls, and personally, I would recommend that bisexualdotcom be migrated to ‘phpBB’ which would provide many technical tools to moderators and administrators, to clamp-down on this sort of BS and make this place a better forum. While we’re at it, we cannot do without mods online, as mods can prove essential to cogent discussion, even in the most prim and proper discussion forums.

Some of the forums I frequent are serious in the extreme, where comportment and etiquette are essential to how you will be engaged (if at all). Unfortunately, here at bisexualdotcom, even many of our thinking members can often respond to a thoughtless thread; and this is just enough encouragement for some people (likely because it’s the most they know). In other forums I visit, polite exchanges are not only the norm, but a strict requirement, even when the views expressed are in violent opposition, and where satire and mocking can supplant comportment and etiquette somewhat. What makes all of that worth reading in the first place, is that it is all intelligent, even when it’s wrong or misguided.

Nowhere other than bisexualdotcom are members ever likely to even try being so vulgar/impolite as some do here; much less ever try “flooding” the forum with a proliferation of discussion threads (often on inane subjects of absolutely no redeeming value or intellectual interest). Pole Smoker is hardly the first person here to post on all the most petty, unimportant tripe that passes into his keyboard. I am pretty sure this kind of “flooding” isn’t even possible in some forums, because of a single technical setting that limits the number of new threads that can be created, or the rate of posting or PMing.

In case Drew doesn’t want to ‘migrate’ to ‘phpBB’ and empower a couple of our more level-headed members to be ‘mods’; about thirty seconds of Googling lead me to two technical ‘modifications’ for ‘VBulletin’ that are published through the official ‘VBulletin’ site. You can all check them out here:

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=258694

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=54596

If Drew would limit the number of new threads any member could start, to no more than one per day or two days; this in itself would greatly diminish the BS on bisexualdotcom. That should be possible, with a single setting change, somewhere in VBulletin, even without installing the two modifications I’ve linked above. In phpBB, this is a single setting, and given the fact that we can all start umpteen threads per day, I would say this setting is currently “0” for “unrestricted”, whereas it should be set to restrict new thread creation – because our current ‘wide open’ setting seems to be an invitation for what most of us don’t want to see on bisexualdotcom.

PS: I understand, Drew, that you probably can’t be bothered to keep-up with blocking user names or banning IPs (because a troll/spammer would mask his IP with a proxy server, and setting up a new account is also quick work for a troll). Therefore, you’ve got to dis-incentivize would-be spammers and trolls, by placing a small limitation on all of us, that most of us wouldn’t be bothered about. A simple limit on the rate of thread creation, would be a tremendous improvement in this regard.

Confidential to Pole_Smoker: I sincerely hope you can learn to play better with others, for your own sake, as well as for ours. You seem like you’re not a complete idiot, so I’m hoping you can elevate your own discourse, to be more in keeping with our ‘community standards’ (unwritten and oft-trampled though they are). You know you’re running afoul of community standards; so why do you persist so maniacally? What’s wrong with you? Can you not moderate yourself? Also; when you post about something other than sex, such as my favorite of yours "Was 9/11 an inside job?", you're much better to deal with, than when you've posted something dripping in cum. Perhaps you ought to keep it 'above the belt' for a little while, to get in the habit of not being so crude. JMT.


ALSO: I think there should be a ‘sticky’ thread at the top, which asks “Who is on your Ignore List?”. In this thread, members could name those on their ignore list, and give reasons for their inclusion in this list; so that other members can proactively ignore those they might choose.

[Maybhere]

Interestingly ccbill is quite interested about the lack of support on this site. Fraud is a big No, NO when you accept credit cards. We haven't been here for long but we inquired about services and payments because of all the chat down time and lack of control on the site. I assume we may get banned but those who get to see this can contact ccbill and inquire. Easiest way to change someone is to hit them in the pocketbook.

[BiBedBud]

Now, hold on a minute, before we get to making misguided regulatory decisions, Maybhere,

This is a Canadian website where many Americans are members, and so I would suggest we take a Canadian approach rather than an American one, as I would suggest this could better improve things for everyone.

In America, world-renowned as a very litigious society, fines are imposed by the government and “regular citizens” are often too eager to hire a lawyer and get to “hitting them in the pocketbook” in order to make change or receive redress or recompense. But, in aggregate and also in increment, this “Americanized/Legalistic/Punitive” approach takes money and other resources out of otherwise productive businesses/processes. For example, a company that is fined, has less money to implement a fix, which makes compliance and customer satisfaction less likely, rather than more.

In Canada, we have a different approach to these things – a different “regulatory framework”*. Up here, our “regulators” are not so quick to resort to fines, and generally speaking, Canadians don’t sue as often or for as much as Americans do. We use arbitration more often, when disputes arise, and we tend to try to avoid disputes, if at all possible.

Canadians don’t believe that hitting them in the pocketbook is the easiest way to change someone. Instead, we try to make constructive suggestions, to help someone improve things. We also try to help, where we can. That is what I wrote about in my post here above. What you are suggesting – especially considering that the bulk of members are here FOR FREE – that is (forgive my Canadian usage of the term) what I would call “BS”.

Precisely what do you want Drew to do? What is a Drew to do?

Banning usernames is futile, because the kvetch just dreams-up a new moniker, creates a new account and he’s back to jacking-off all over the website.

Similarly, blocking IPs (“Internet Protocol Addresses”) is also futile, because any kvetch can use a proxy server in any number of ways, to seem as though he is located anywhere else he might choose. In the long run, blocking IPs is a sure fire way to deny access to legit future users who just so happen to have the same IP. Besides, I don’t think VBulletin rectifies a registered user’s stated location to their IP Lookup; so that approach is also a technical dead-end.

On top of which, if you make it harder for Drew to earn any coin at all from this place; what incentive does he have to even bother paying for the bandwidth?

Alternatively, if you think like me, and you think I’ve suggested some good ideas in my post above, please flag that post and let Drew know that there are things he can do, rather easily, to take us a step in the right direction.

Of course, the kvetch, being a kvetch, can just create a plethora of accounts, under different usernames, and log-in with each one to spam drivel all over the place. But, I’m hoping that’ll take down the ‘high’ for him, given the little extra hassle this would entail, and the fact that we’ll have to divide our attention further – because it’s the attention that drives him.

In such a scenario, we may have to resort to forced therapy – refraining from all interaction that is not psychoanalytical of him. He is the type to despise being publically psychoanalyzed in this manner; precisely because he’s wide-open for it. Enough of this, and he may just go elsewhere.

Making it harder for Drew to receive Credit Card payments isn’t going to do anyone, any favours. (Geesh!)


*It should be noted, we’ve long suffered from pressure from south of the border, to “harmonize” and all that, such as with GATT, NAFTA and the WTO, all of which are “Ameri-Heavy” on us Canadians. Our famed, former Prime Minister Trudeau, the father of the current Liberal-party leader, termed it (approximately) “like being in bed with an elephant; no matter how jovial the beast, one feels every twitch and fears every turn. On top of which, divided government and balance of powers, with “separate but equal branches of government”; makes for routine policy disasters and grief that can span the whole world. But, I digress…………………………

[jem_is_bi]

Why not ignore threads he starts if you don't want to deal with the topics he raises and his aggressive comments? I don't read or respond to every thread on this site.

[Dog62]

Has this gone on long enough?
And what have you done on the forum? You have started 5 threads in your time here, 4 of them are about Pole Smoker. Maybe if you or someone else would start some new threads then he wouldn't feel like it was all up to him. Why do you feel the need to whine and condemn someone who is trying to liven up this forum?

[Hypersexual11]

I'm 'guilty' of feeding pole, but I don't see him as a troll. This site is filthy, that's why a lot of us are here. Many of us frequent other boards and tire of the heavy moderation and want to be dripping with cum. Sometimes we want to blow off a little steam. Sure Pole is spamming but if you remove his posts, it leaves the board pretty empty. I, like many members here, like to comment but not start threads. So he posts the crap out of vulgar topics. Oh well, if you don't like it, you can always put him on ignore.

To Canadians whose lives are not run by the pursuit of fortune, hats off. Obviously here, the dollar is the prize. Corporations wanting to make lots of dollars, found clever ways to get it from us and transform us into world class consumers. They told us we 'deserve' this and 'deserve' that, then flooded the population with lawyers and told us that if we are looked at crossways, that is disrespect and you MUST PAY!!! I look back on the people that were friends in school, all old like me now, all but one living off the government tit, or an insurance claim or a lawsuit. It make me sick. I used to be so proud to be from the US. Now when I travel, I tell people I'm Canadian. Thanks for being so cool. I hope eventually we can learn from you.

To the next comment, that will probably say "well then move there, fucker"..I tried. They won't take me. If I was Canada, I wouldn't take me either.

[tenni]

Hypersexual
lol.......you're the one claiming to be Canadian..lol!

Etatsien(US peeps) have been doing that for decades. There was a time when US peeps might put a Canadian flag on the back packs rather than US. We are catching up to you not only on the materialistic side but with Harper the right wing nuts censoring Canadian scientific research by gagging scientists reporting in some journals to the disgustingly bad eco record and disdain for the environment. You may want to put say that you are from Denmark...lol Canada is still there as one of the countries to live in though. We are still a bit less "I will sue you" though and our courts tend not to look too kindly on class action lawsuits but some have been important test cases ending up in the Supreme Court(I think ..could be wrong)

As far as pole is concerned he has redefined his posts but his phobias (circumcision etc.) show through just as much as "Top Fucker" etc. I find all these graphic threads a bit too much at times and wonder why someone wants to know if someone else is a CD, how many times they jerk off per day etc. It is all a bit too sophomoric. When I read all the per vy threads that he starts and compare it to how he describes his own life, he is rather vanilla, prudish in his self described real life except that he is a same sex couple he might as well be June & Ward Cleaver...lol

[pole_smoker]

Hypersexual
lol.......you're the one claiming to be Canadian..lol!

Etatsien(US peeps) have been doing that for decades. There was a time when US peeps might put a Canadian flag on the back packs rather than US. We are catching up to you not only on the materialistic side but with Harper the right wing nuts censoring Canadian scientific research by gagging scientists reporting in some journals to the disgustingly bad eco record and disdain for the environment. You may want to put say that you are from Denmark...lol Canada is still there as one of the countries to live in though. We are still a bit less "I will sue you" though and our courts tend not to look too kindly on class action lawsuits but some have been important test cases ending up in the Supreme Court(I think ..could be wrong)

As far as pole is concerned he has redefined his posts but his phobias (circumcision etc.) show through just as much as "Top Fucker" etc. I find all these graphic threads a bit too much at times and wonder why someone wants to know if someone else is a CD, how many times they jerk off per day etc. It is all a bit too sophomoric. When I read all the per vy threads that he starts and compare it to how he describes his own life, he is rather vanilla, prudish in his self described real life except that he is a same sex couple he might as well be June & Ward Cleaver...lol
Circumcision or male genital mutilation is not a "phobia" to me. I just think that it shouldn't be done on infants or young boys as they can't consent to it, and it is a mutilation of their genitals. The same goes for infant or young girls too. When people become legal adults either over the age of 18 or 21 depending on where they are they can get a full sex change operation if they want to and it wouldn't bother me.

My partner and I are not boring, and we're not like a made up TV couple who even partnerships between a woman and a man are not like. But go ahead and run your mouth, and assume whatever you want about total strangers who you don't know at all. We find it amusing.

[JUSTLUVIN]

Hypersexual
lol.......you're the one claiming to be Canadian..lol!

Etatsien(US peeps) have been doing that for decades. There was a time when US peeps might put a Canadian flag on the back packs rather than US. We are catching up to you not only on the materialistic side but with Harper the right wing nuts censoring Canadian scientific research by gagging scientists reporting in some journals to the disgustingly bad eco record and disdain for the environment. You may want to put say that you are from Denmark...lol Canada is still there as one of the countries to live in though. We are still a bit less "I will sue you" though and our courts tend not to look too kindly on class action lawsuits but some have been important test cases ending up in the Supreme Court(I think ..could be wrong)

As far as pole is concerned he has redefined his posts but his phobias (circumcision etc.) show through just as much as "Top Fucker" etc. I find all these graphic threads a bit too much at times and wonder why someone wants to know if someone else is a CD, how many times they jerk off per day etc. It is all a bit too sophomoric. When I read all the per vy threads that he starts and compare it to how he describes his own life, he is rather vanilla, prudish in his self described real life except that he is a same sex couple he might as well be June & Ward Cleaver...lol

This is really a first to find someone posting a thread about another member. Being bisexual is hard enough then to find someone trying to judge another one on their sexual preferences is really beyond me. The whole purpose of this site is to discuss the issues that go with being bisexual, and sometimes that includes anything relating to sexuality. My god, so many of us have to stay in the closet with regards to their sexuality this site provides a venue to discuss. Then I come on and find someone posting a thread to judge someone else? Well, all I can say is that old saying when you point your finger at someone, there are 3 fingers pointing back at you. I would suggest that any judging occurring on this site should be carefully thought through, what private thoughts do you have that could be judged as well?

With regards to pole_smokers comment on circumcision, he is only wanting discussion on this issue. I for one am against it and many others have voiced opinions for. I am not judging anyone for cutting but I as well as Pole_smoker have facts about the issue that one should know so they can make totally educated decisions on the matter.

As far as his other threads, one needs to look at the content of others to see if the comments about him are justified..they are not. I have seen far more from other members but where is the thread about what should we do with those members? I would suggest leaving judgement to your own self, that includes all of us including myself.

[tenni]

Justluvin
I recognize pole for who he is and has been just as some others have. Do you Justluvin?

In my opinion based on what types of threads that pole starts compared to how he claims to live his own sexual life there is a contradiction. He seems to have a salacious interest in getting others on the site to admit their sexual practices that are more than he actually involves himself in. There have been others who post (and were then put in a "cooling off" place) similar and express similar obsessive views on circumcision . I've skipped his recent threads but previous incarnations have posted page after page on the topic.

"issues that go with being bisexual" I would suggest that you look at the threads started and ask yourself how specifically the topic is about bisexuality rather than salacious regardless of sexual attraction.

Here are a few comments about the thread topic from some ladies on site once he started another questionable thread.
" Poley is a dreadfully uncouth louthttp://www.bisexual.com/forum/webkit-fake-url://ACCED128-4C40-4B32-94B6-AB510EDAFD3E/pastedGraphic.png"

"And torrent rages on. Sheesh, will this guy never get bored? It just all seems so pointless."

[pole_smoker]

I'm 'guilty' of feeding pole, but I don't see him as a troll. This site is filthy, that's why a lot of us are here. Many of us frequent other boards and tire of the heavy moderation and want to be dripping with cum. Sometimes we want to blow off a little steam. Sure Pole is spamming but if you remove his posts, it leaves the board pretty empty. I, like many members here, like to comment but not start threads. So he posts the crap out of vulgar topics. Oh well, if you don't like it, you can always put him on ignore.



Exactly. This is a bisexual sex site for adults. Who knew that other bisexual adults (not you hyper) are such prudes?

[void()]

A simple limit on the rate of thread creation, would be a tremendous improvement in this regard.

ALSO: I think there should be a ‘sticky’ thread at the top, which asks “Who is on your Ignore List?”. In this thread, members could name those on their ignore list, and give reasons for their inclusion in this list; so that other members can proactively ignore those they might choose.

Would agree a daily/weekly/monthly thread count limit may be a good idea for general membership. That is meaning all members are limited to say #x of threads per day/week/month as a hard stop. Maybe, paying members could barter reputation points or such to gain say #y extra thread creation privileges. Please though keep any extra paying members receive as fair. Perhaps, you limited all members to five thread creations a month as a hard stop, you could limit free members to 3 a month but give paying members an option to earn the bonus 2. You may even offer raffles, contests for the free members to gain an extra thread creation privilege.

Kind of disagree about a sticky ignore list thread. I think this would incur harsh feelings in the membership and ultimately just not end well for any. Being able to ignore anyone you choose for whatever reason/s ought to remain a free and secure choice for all members. If members publicize their ignore lists, an eventual herd mentality will creep in. It will become mandatory to reveal your discretion and that would ultimately remove choice. You would have to not ignore this one or that one to be part of whichever clique, or simply to remain as a member in any capacity on the site.

I agree with Joe being able to ignore me if he chooses. He doesn't even need to tell me he is, or isn't ignoring me. Either way that is his choice. Maybe next month he'll ignore 12VoltMan, maybe I am ignoring Drew this week. It could be that Annika is really steamed at my comment over doves pharting in Katmandu effecting the weather patterns in outer Mongolia, and she has ignored me for a week in order to give us both a chance to cool down. Does that matter? Only to each individual. It does not need to be a public spectacle.

By the by, I am ignoring the Ancient Alien folks for a period of at least a week. It seems my bedroom was covered with slime from some Plutonian based off advice from these folks. My wife thought it was nice retro 60's touch but did not approve of the impregnation of me via the slime. So curse you Ancient Alien folks! Take your lousy t-t-t-ek nolo gee and go fly a kite!

[Melody Dean]

Guys, you realize, the more you complain, the more he does it?

[BareHunter45]

I have 300 posts...you have 87....what does that prove?? Never said I was a more prolific poster or that he should not post. My objection is that he is hogging the posts. I come here for many things...discussions....interesting posts...titilation...eroticism and to socialize. I have responded to many posts. I do not object to the topics per se...just the number of similar posts on these topics. When I log on I want to hear from and socialize with many people and different ideas...not just pole-smoker...which is all there is sometimes...that is my objection. I did not criticize him. I used the same technique he did to illustrate my point. Many people have chimed in and agree that his actions have been annoying. That is my point. Do others feel the same...I think that answer is obvious. Are we going to do something about it...apparently not. As a result, I will not visit often. Let's face it...the number of people that visit this site is part of what pays the bills through advertising. Keep up this approach and the site will whither away...

[BiBedBud]

Why not ignore threads he starts if you don't want to deal with the topics he raises and his aggressive comments? I don't read or respond to every thread on this site.


The problem with your suggestion, jem_is_bi, from my POV, is that bisexualdotcom’s ignore button only works when I’m signed-in. It might surprise you to know that myself and many other regular visitors of this website, often prefer to read through the forum without signing-in. While we’re not logged-in, we have no choice to ignore, and we must sift-and-sort through the noise to tune in a signal.



There is something else more important, that all clear-thinking members should consider and consider well: Every so often, not infrequently, a partner or spouse of a bisexual person – having just recently discovered that their loved one is bisexual – will come upon this website, in their quest to understand the new world they’ve been thrown into. Additionally, the curious will also be brought here for the first time, looking for answers and perhaps for better questions (which are much more valuable). Whatever the case, when they come to bisexualdotcom for the first time, they will not be logged-in either.


For any number of reasons, people ‘lurk’ this website much more often than they login and set-up an account with an ignore list. Even if you went to this length, the fuck troll is keen and well practiced, subverting even your own private attempts to enjoy the site as you should have an expectation to do. Instead, you and I – and everyone ‘lurking’ this website are literally molested by an un-ending, non-stop written fixation upon a singular aspect of male proto-sexuality; a bodily function, actually – the all-important male ejaculation.

What bothers me about this, isn’t the vulgarity, isn’t the cum-dripping aspect of it – I am certainly no prude – it’s that I suspect this is done in an effort to make all bisexuals seem to be what we are typically not. This flooding the forum with cum-dripping crap is done with a view towards making all bisexuals seem depraved and selfishly fixated on a single moment that is always punctuated with spooge. (If it were at least well-written, it might be better tolerated, but “Pole_Smoker” ain’t no kinda writer.)


I think he’s doing it, to make bisexuals seem like cum-fixated freaks, rather than the often complex, always multi-dimensional individuals that we truly are. It’s a smear campaign.







For fucks’ sakes, “Pole_Smoker” (or whateverthefuckyourfuckingnameisyoufuck); why do you take such satisfaction, getting around our forum rules and community standards (unwritten and oft trampled though they are)? Why, when you get banned, do you use a proxy server to create a new account and continue with the same boorish behaviour that draws routine rebuke? Why do you enjoy subverting people’s ignore lists, by always changing your name and using multiple accounts? How can you draw pleasure, or grant upon yourself ‘cuckoo kudos’ for tricking people into thinking you’re someone else? How do you get off like this? Is there nothing better for you to do?


NEWSFLASH: Cumming is so common, and your fixation upon it is so base and terminally boring; I can’t imagine you’re interest almost exclusively below the belt, has anything to do with a bona fide sexuality. It’s too single-aspect and abusive in its vulgarity to be about sexuality. Rather, I think it’s an abuse. You’re like a flasher. You want to force your crude “thoughts” on all of us (and calling your unthinking topics “thoughts” is very generous of me, which you don’t deserve). You especially want to jam-up the “Recent Posts” board to flood that view of the forum, which also floods the forum itself. You want to get around everyone’s ignore list, by having multiple accounts and different names, always lying, lying, lying, lying, lying, lying, because you’re a lying fucker.

FYI: In my RL community, a flasher is likely to take a thumping before getting hauled-off by the cops. He’ll be put before the courts and the press, and the cops will find all those who want to testify against him. If convicted, he’ll go to jail. When/if he gets out, he’ll be a registered sex offender, and he’ll receive the scorn of the community that he deserves. He’ll be kept at arms length, and won’t be able to interact with the community in general, the way that normal people can. Repeat sex offenders – like the “me-first” kind of people they are – eventually lose their turn in prison, and die with a shank up their ass. This is ultimately, how community safety is upheld in my community. I only wish we had a similar option for you, because your repeat, abusive, rule-and-standard subverting behaviour on bisexualdotcom is reprehensible and low.

Low.

NEWSFLASH: Taking your satisfaction in the displeasure of others is anti-social by definition. It’s a clear indication that you truly are a “Fucker” and no kind of Lover. I pity the man you’re cumming on/in, because I know it’s all about you.

So, what’s the situation, then? Are you wealthy (because you don’t seem to have a workday) and you’re bottom boy is the poor and grateful kind, is that it?

Sort of a “Daddy/Son” kind of thing you’ve arranged? Is that it, “Pole_Smoker”?

Or are you a “Cute Couple” with a thriving social life, interacting amicably with a collection of fine friends of all persuasions and both genders? Is that what you’d have us believe?

Then why do you lend the overpowering impression that the truth with you is generally more judgemental, antisocial and grotesque?

Why do you circumvent bans? Ignore warnings? Create multiple accounts? Use different personas? Proxy servers?

MOST ESPECIALLY: Why do you flood the board?

If you stopped flooding the board with umpteen new topics per day; that would be a HUGE IMPROVEMENT. But, of course, you can’t help yourself, because it’s the flooding that you get off on, isn’t it?

Flooding the board with umpteen new topics per day is effectively, how you attempt to dominate and control bisexualdotcom, isn’t it? That’s what you enjoy, you fucking fucker.

I can tell that you’re a very “taking”, “me”-oriented, selfish and self-centered type of narcissistic person, and that you take pains to pretend to be generous. You’re not generous at all. In truth, you are essentially inconsiderate and uncaring. You exact a price for every penny, and everything else is all for your benefit. I’m sure that your control of the purse strings in your “relationship” (if it even exists), is the only way for you to feel secure. It’s obvious.

[BiBedBud]

And what have you done on the forum? You have started 5 threads in your time here, 4 of them are about Pole Smoker. Maybe if you or someone else would start some new threads then he wouldn't feel like it was all up to him. Why do you feel the need to whine and condemn someone who is trying to liven up this forum?

See, now, that’s the kind of thing the fuck would write while signed-in under a different account. But, I’m going to respond as if you’re a real person who is not actually a different account controlled by the same fuck I’ve referenced above.

Do you know how internet forums are supposed to work? I can tell not, because if you did, you wouldn’t be making such a suggestion.

Flooding the forum is not livening anything up. Creating umpteen threads per day is not an interesting thing to do, especially when the majority of them are fixated on male ejaculation, which isn’t even a particularly bisexual thing to do.

Perhaps you don’t know how internet discussion forums are supposed to work, because this is the only forum you participate in, and this is all that you know. Well, elsewhere, people don’t flood the forum with unimportant topics of transient interest. For these kinds of things, they’ll use a single thread, or a chat room. Creating umpteen threads is like changing the topic of discussion continuously. It disrupts ongoing discussions that might actually go somewhere. Instead, because of this fucker troll, we’ve got a proliferation of incredibly superficial, single-focus “threads” of cum jazzed-out all over the place, gobbing-up any decent view of what might be worth reading on here.

Why do you think “Pole_Smoker” should feel any obligation to start so many threads? Why can he not respond to existing threads?

Why do you think ‘runaway thread proliferation’ has any effect “livening up this forum’? Many people have complained about it. Many more people don’t like it either. Almost nobody does this, and nobody has ever done it more than this fucker. Or, is that you?

For me and many others, when it’s obvious that we have someone here who is intent on breaking rules, offending others’ sensibilities and generally flooding the forum with inane topics of puerile “interest” (which are so utterly boring); even getting around ignore lists and circumventing bans by using a never-ending litany of usernames and proxy servers (i.e. cheating, trespassing, abuse, etc.).

[BiBedBud]

This is really a first to find someone posting a thread about another member. Being bisexual is hard enough then to find someone trying to judge another one on their sexual preferences is really beyond me. The whole purpose of this site is to discuss the issues that go with being bisexual, and sometimes that includes anything relating to sexuality. My god, so many of us have to stay in the closet with regards to their sexuality this site provides a venue to discuss. Then I come on and find someone posting a thread to judge someone else? Well, all I can say is that old saying when you point your finger at someone, there are 3 fingers pointing back at you. I would suggest that any judging occurring on this site should be carefully thought through, what private thoughts do you have that could be judged as well?

With regards to pole_smokers comment on circumcision, he is only wanting discussion on this issue. I for one am against it and many others have voiced opinions for. I am not judging anyone for cutting but I as well as Pole_smoker have facts about the issue that one should know so they can make totally educated decisions on the matter.

As far as his other threads, one needs to look at the content of others to see if the comments about him are justified..they are not. I have seen far more from other members but where is the thread about what should we do with those members? I would suggest leaving judgement to your own self, that includes all of us including myself.

JUSTLUVIN,

I am going to do you the courtesy of assuming that you are a real person and not yet another incarnation of the same troll who has been stalking bisexualdotcom for a long while now, using different monikers at will. You need to be clear about what has rubbed so many of us the wrong way, here.

Aside from the fact that this troll is circumventing previous bans by setting up another account under a different name; having a fucker like this haunt this website is like keeping a shark in your swimming pool. Nobody can fully relax, even with just a toe in the water. For that matter, we should all assume that this same sick person is in the habit of logging on with different user names, perhaps posting in support of one another. Why? Who the fuck knows? But it doesn’t sit well with me and I am sure others would rather this person go elsewhere or just “quit it”.

To be specific here: It isn’t the vulgarity that is most offensive. The base depravity isn’t such a bother, either. The sophomoric (good word, tenni) and puerile nature of the bulk of what he posts would even be tolerable, except that this fucker has a hard-on for starting new threads, periodically changing his user name (to subvert user’s ignore lists and the bans he has earned).

IMO, that’s the whole problem, right there. The rampant thread-starting by this “top fucker / pole smoker” character. Effectively, he’s using the thread title to message brief burst of crap under the guise of some kind of poll. He is making it harder for anything else to be communicated among consenting adults.

He claims to be a normal person, and goes to pains to regale us with testimony of his sexual satisfaction and the fine life he enjoys with his large group of friends of various persuasions and genders. (Why don’t I believe it, then?) I have to wonder, when he’s at the table at a restaurant with all of them, or at a dinner party or whatever, if every other thing out of his mouth is a new topic of discussion.

How about it, “Pole_Smoker”, do you change topics that often when you’re in conversation? Do you bomb everyone with questions, continuously?

I can’t believe you do, because you’d have been thrown into a padded cell by now, and likely wouldn’t have 24/7 internet access the way you (so painfully) seem to.

The fact is, “Pole_Smoker” (or whatever you’ll call yourself): You think you’re clever, because you can play “mind games” with (unsuspecting) people online. For the life of me, I don’t know why you spend so much of your time, doing what you’re doing; when you know it’s not appreciated. I suppose your apparent joy in it is what makes you antisocial. You know that you’re not welcome here, you’ve been banned multiple times; but still you create a new account and spend your time here, posting the same kind of crap. You think it makes you clever, that you can maintain multiple accounts at bisexualdotcom and whip many of us into a furor by flooding the forum with the purulent wonderings of an obviously maladapted individual.

Why so many threads? Why flood the forum?

I have to wonder if it is some kind of weird attempt to smear bisexuals. Or is it all some kind of effort to seize control of the URL? Make it hard for Drew to cash-in, and eventually he’ll drop the domain? (I doubt it, BTW, ever working for you.)

Consider that every so often, we get a genuine new member who has just found out that their spouse/partner has same-sex or bisexual attractions/orientations. They come to bisexualdotcom looking for answers; and what do they find, but a bunch of cum dripping threads started by Pole_Smoker or whatever (or the same guy, with multiple accounts). I have to wonder if this is the real purpose behind Pole_Smoker flooding the forum with juvenile BS – its done to make bisexuals look bad, base, depraved and degenerate, whereas bisexuals, IMO, are generally the opposite: GGG good, giving, game, other-oriented rather than self-centered; often selfless, even denying themselves (theoretical) complete sexual satisfaction by observing monogamous pair-bonding. IMO, most genuine bisexuals are more like “Lovers” than they are “Fuckers”. For this reason alone, I have to wonder how bisexual this Pole Smoker character actually is. I think he’d like to pass himself as bi, but in truth he is a self-loathing homo (often characterized by abusive and persistent vulgarity).

Generally powerless elsewhere in his world, he enjoys throwing a wrench into our works here at bisexualdotcom.

If he could throw actual faeces, he would (being the monkey that he is).

[BiBedBud]

Exactly. This is a bisexual sex site for adults. Who knew that other bisexual adults (not you hyper) are such prudes?

It’s not about us being prudes. It’s about you circumventing bans, using a string of different user names, maintaining multiple accounts, and especially flooding the forum with a tirade of new topics. If this website were a dinner table, you’d never be invited for a meal, ever again. If this website were a meeting, you’d be ejected for disrupting the proceedings. The only way you’re able to do what you do, is by breaking rules and working around them, ignoring warnings and continuing with what others have asked be stopped. That is antisocial behaviour, any way you cut it. It’s not clever, it’s barely the semblance of domination and control; but because it’s done without consent and in writing, it is literally assault, if not actually assault.

That’s how it is being perceived, by many of us, because that’s what it is. It doesn’t “liven the place up”, all it is, is a churn of infantile, superficial BS.

[pole_smoker]

Actually, yes it does liven the basically dead site up. Many people have PM'd and emailed me, or posted thanking me for creating polls.

No I'm not lying. Even you yourself PM'd/emailed me thanking me for my poll on 9/11 being inside or not. Other people who have emailed me have posted here in this thread.

[BiBedBud]

................ REDACTED....................................Kind of disagree about a sticky ignore list thread. I think this would incur harsh feelings in the membership and ultimately just not end well for any. Being able to ignore anyone you choose for whatever reason/s ought to remain a free and secure choice for all members. If members publicize their ignore lists, an eventual herd mentality will creep in. It will become mandatory to reveal your discretion and that would ultimately remove choice. You would have to not ignore this one or that one to be part of whichever clique, or simply to remain as a member in any capacity on the site.

I agree with Joe being able to ignore me if he chooses. He doesn't even need to tell me he is, or isn't ignoring me. Either way that is his choice. Maybe next month he'll ignore 12VoltMan, maybe I am ignoring Drew this week. It could be that Annika is really steamed at my comment over doves pharting in Katmandu effecting the weather patterns in outer Mongolia, and she has ignored me for a week in order to give us both a chance to cool down. Does that matter? Only to each individual. It does not need to be a public spectacle....................... REDACTED

I might agree with you, in principle, except that a big part of the problem is that this guy gets banned periodically, and quickly comes back under a new name. This defeats my ignore attempt, on top of circumventing his ban.

I don't think things would get 'cliquey' the way you've described. But I do think that notorious individuals should be pointed-out as a menace, so that others can avoid them. That's all I was going for with the iggy thread suggestion.

[BiBedBud]

Actually, yes it does liven the basically dead site up. Many people have PM'd and emailed me, or posted thanking me for creating polls.

You're a liar. I suspect some of those are alternate accounts set up by you yourself, under a different moniker.

That's how you do.

[BareHunter45]

Sorry....but this message was meant to be in response to Dog2s post.


I have 300 posts...you have 87....what does that prove?? Never said I was a more prolific poster or that he should not post. My objection is that he is hogging the posts. I come here for many things...discussions....interesting posts...titilation...eroticism and to socialize. I have responded to many posts. I do not object to the topics per se...just the number of similar posts on these topics. When I log on I want to hear from and socialize with many people and different ideas...not just pole-smoker...which is all there is sometimes...that is my objection. I did not criticize him. I used the same technique he did to illustrate my point. Many people have chimed in and agree that his actions have been annoying. That is my point. Do others feel the same...I think that answer is obvious. Are we going to do something about it...apparently not. As a result, I will not visit often. Let's face it...the number of people that visit this site is part of what pays the bills through advertising. Keep up this approach and the site will whither away...

[lookin2tryit]

seems like all the energy everyone is expending on the smoked pole is what is feeding his energy
its like he draws strength from it

[jem_is_bi]

seems like all the energy everyone is expending on the smoked pole is what is feeding his energy
its like he draws strength from it I just wish he would do a better job at picking interesting topics instead of 50 kinds of sex trivia questions posted in one evening of activity.

[BiBedBud]

I just wish he would do a better job at picking interesting topics instead of 50 kinds of sex trivia questions posted in one evening of activity.

He is neither that intelligent, nor creative enough, nor curious enough, to come up with better poll topics or be of any genuine use to us here. He clearly knows nothing about genuine polling, because even good data for most of his concoctions, wouldn’t prove or disprove anything worth knowing. He is no kind of pollster, he’s a spammer and a troll.

I doubt he’s even sexually experienced the way he claims, and I now doubt any information he’s offered on his self – all of it. The most probable profile for this character is that he is a deeply under-employed, desperately under-sexed adult CHILD still living under his parent’s roof. This explains the non-stop/ all-hours internet access, the sexual frustration and the juvenile ignorance displayed in much of what he types. It would seem our only hope for relief from this guy, is that he gets a job, gets kicked-out of his parent’s house or that he tops himself somehow. Personally, I think he lacks the courage for suicide, and so either homelessness or prison is his likely terminal scenario. It just fits with his antisocial nature.

I think he attempts to project his ideal self, which is extremely difficult for him in RL, and (seemingly) oh so much more easy for him here at bisexualdotcom. That’s why he’s fixated on doing what he is doing, where he is doing it.

I admit: I have given him some thought now, unlike anyone else on this website. That’s not to his credit, of course. It’s just that he’s one sick puppy, and he’s been vomiting and shitting and shedding and gnawing on the entire forum. His desperation is palpable. The fucker is a fiend for “Recent Threads”. It is problematic for the rest of us, and we don't have the option to drown him. Or..............maybe.......... do we?

EUREKA!

To help remedy this pole_smoker situation, I suggest the following FOUR POINT PLAN.

1. If you are curious to read a pole_smoker poll, please do so while signed-out. This way, the “Views” counter will not advance, and it will look as though nobody is even reading them. He'll hate that, because it denies him the validation he craves.

2. I suggest we all BUMP MORE OFTEN, because he seems to want to dominate the "Recent Threads" board, most of all, and we can deny him this 'pleasure'. Just pick a thread that you like, and make sure it was NOT STARTED BY POLE SMOKER, and type the word “Bump” (or any other comment you care to make), just to bring it back up to the top of the listings. If you pick a nice one, nobody will complain. If your bumping helps to push a STUPID poll_smoker poll off the “Recent Threads” board, I for one will cheer you!

3. Conversely, if you think a pole_smoker poll has merit, then do BUMP that one, but try not to feed his stupider, dumber, crasser ones. Anything to ‘bump up’ quality threads and posts and ‘flush down’ the bulk of pole_smoker’s STUPID FUCKING polls.

4. If you don’t like what pole_smoker is doing here, please visit his profile and leave a “Visitor Comment” to that effect.

[Alex2200]

is ignore a problem for ppl with issue with user?

[elmwood7]

Anyone who's been on this site for any length of time knows that pole smoker or sole poker or whatever he call's himself this week is a troll. I'm not sure where Drew disappeared too but I hope he get's back soon and puts the troll on ice.

[AGuyIKnow]

I'd really suggest that you don't comment with just the word 'Bump' and proliferate the virus that you're trying to eliminate. But instead provide a useful comment instead.

It would be great if we could bring back the discussion atmosphere of the past.

As far as PS, I just don't comment on ANY of his childless attempts at attention. If it's useful then sure.

[darkeyes]

'Scuse me... I have me own bump just beginning:impleased 2 make its way in me world so wud rather bump cud in no way b confused with Poley Dimwit.. find anotha word!!!:tongue: Sleekit Wanker sounds cool 2 me...;) K.. is 2 words but far more appropriate...:bigrin:

[BiBedBud]

'Scuse me... I have me own bump just beginning:impleased 2 make its way in me world so wud rather bump cud in no way b confused with Poley Dimwit.. find anotha word!!!:tongue: Sleekit Wanker sounds cool 2 me...;) K.. is 2 words but far more appropriate...:bigrin:

darkeyes,

You've got a bun in the oven?
CONGRATULATIONS!

If it is a male child, you must remember never to hit him on the head with a rolling pin, if ye catch 'im wankin-off.
In retrospect, pole_smoker's mum must have handled that scenario rather poorly, probably because she had one of those marble rolling pins.:yikes2:

[darkeyes]

darkeyes,

You've got a bun in the oven?
CONGRATULATIONS!

If it is a male child, you must remember never to hit him on the head with a rolling pin, if ye catch 'im wankin-off.
In retrospect, pole_smoker's mum must have handled that scenario rather poorly, probably because she had one of those marble rolling pins.:yikes2:
Fran has indeed... and ta BiBed... nev wanted babba but funny thing ya body.. somehow it takes over and makes ya broody.. and had been so for long time! Afraid instinct won out ova logic.. but ya kno wot? Mite b scared stiff of child birth.. no doubt of it cos I am.. not 2 happy bout growing 2 size of a whale eitha or mayb getting stretch marks.. but ya kno wot? Just wudn't change how things r panning out.. and my child will be far too bright and well brought up to act anything like the dimwit..:)

[Realist]

After some review of Mr. P.S.'s actions, on this site, I recalled a fellow who was sexually abused by his father and his mother was a meth addict.

Under those circumstances, the poor thing never had a chance. P.S. has all of the same symptoms.......he's definitely a product of bad genies, most probably had meth-drugged parents, and surely he was severely abused at a child.

His lack of social skills, and inability to make and keep friends, are also indications of most social outcasts.

Probably, the best that can be done is to institutionalize him, while his brain continues to deteriorate and he drifts off into obscurity!

The only thing anyone will remember is...............well, no one will remember him!

[pole_smoker]

^^^
LMAO!!!! Nice try being a psychologist and/or psychiatrist from your comfy armchair Realist.

I do not use drugs, have never used meth, and my parents have never used meth or drugs and don't even really drink that much. I was not abused as a child, teenager, or adult.

I don't lack social skills. I have a partner, and I have friends. I am in perfect physical and mental health too.

[BiBedBud]

^^^
......................... REDACTED..................... I am in perfect physical and mental health too.
You're also in deep denial.
Everyone thinks so.

[pole_smoker]

You're also in deep denial.
Everyone thinks so.
No I'm not.

Define "everyone" besides yourself and other trolls who love to stalk/harass me, and play psychologist from their comfy armchairs.

[BiBedBud]

No I'm not.
:rolleyes:

[BiBedBud]

I think this pole_smoker character despises the prospect of us discussing him in public, in the negative light he deserves.

It'd be a flash-back to his childhood.

This is why he is keen to see this particular thread, burried under a whole bunch of his nonsense.

It's too strong a mirorr for him.

[pole_smoker]

lmao as if a total stranger that's a troll like bibedbud would know anything about me at all, or my childhood.

Is it nice there in your armchair of speculation and theory?

I'm not the way you claim I am, and I'm in perfect physical and mental health. I have a fulltime job, and friends and family who love me for who I am.

My partner and I are having lots of laughs over your trolling posts about me, a total stranger to you though.

[BiBedBud]

^^^^^Then how do you account for your major malfunction?

How did you get so fucked in the head, then?

Is it organic?

Ever try ECT?
How about a nice lobotomy?

You've got to do something, to get better, otherwise, you'll end up very badly.

[BiBedBud]

NOTICE ALL: He can't stand to have us discuss him in the third person. I think he's flooding the forum, to flush these criticisms away.

Little does he know...........

[Gearbox]

My partner and I are having lots of laughs over your trolling posts about me, a total stranger to you though.
Lets face it! Your partner must bore the shit out of you, if that's what's keeping you both entertained. Dump him! Get yourself a dirty promiscuous kinky little whore, whole entertain you in much better ways for a grown adult. You know you'd love it!;)
Or maybe he IS a kinky little whore, but gets bugger all from you but your trolling?

IMO, he doesn't exist. Who'd put up with that crazy shit?:rolleyes:

[pole_smoker]

Don't think that highly of yourself. We just both find comments written by people who don't know fuck all about either one of us at all to be funny mainly since it's not accurate at all.

We both have a highly satisfying sex and romantic life with each other, and that's all that matters.

Yes I've had relationships with women. I had a longterm girlfriend for over a decade before I met my partner. I'm not a virgin or prude. I just prefer to have sex with a partner or a person who I am in a long term relationship with. I'm 55.

Some women and men are into period sex. This includes lesbian/bi women, and hetero/bi women and men.

I'm personally not into it but some of my hetero male friends are, and some of my female friends did tell me how they've done it but just lay down towels or do it in the shower.

[BiBedBud]

Drew,

A simple fix for this problem: Reset the fucker's password, and don't tell him the new one.

That way, he'd be locked-out of his profile and all his posted threads will remain. Those with merit will survive, and those (bulk of them) with no redeeming value, will just wither away, having received zero (0!) responses, and only accidental views. Wonderfully, the rest of us can continue to post scorn on his 'Visitor Messages' page, as I have recently begun doing. The beauty part of it is that he'd no longer be able to erase them.

LOL!
:2cents:

PS: If you're in favour of this measure, please chime-in in this thread.

[BiBedBud]

............................... REDACTED.............................

IMO, he doesn't exist. Who'd put up with that crazy shit?:rolleyes:

I am pretty sure that he's NEVER had any significant relationship with a woman, and his alledged male partner is likely a hoax too. He asks some seriously naïf questions in his so-called polls. For example, if men have ever had sex with a woman on her period, or if women have had period sex. (!?!)

LOL!

He's clueless, and the reason for the umpteen-million questions for us, is that he genuinely wants to know!

LOL!

I am altering my earlier guestimate -- this fucker is a virgin, probably still a teenager!

[BiBedBud]

BUMP!

[chtampa]

I find it incredibly cute that our little smoker has such a circle of friends that give him encouragement and help bolster his self esteem to this level. So many people with low self worth just simmer in their own pity and can't function. I think we should all add a little "Good for you", to help him along in his journey of validation and assist his escape from the stigma of having been on the short bus. We have all been standing in a circle of people in deep conversation when that one person slips in that everybody dreads. But, we still talk to him and do our good deed for society. And, they never know when to leave and can't see that they have worn out their welcome. That could be because of all the fake compliments that we never meant, and have allowed them to actually feel that they have a place that they can belong. Al Gore created this place for "them". A place where nobodies can be somebody. Do your good deed for the day, and just give him a hug and say "It will be okay, really it will".

"It will be okay, really it will"

[Gearbox]

We both have a highly satisfying sex and romantic life with each other, and that's all that matters.
Yes......in YOUR mind.:eek2:

I expect that the reason why you don't create fictitious accounts for 'him', is that you could not cope with 'him' being criticized as being less than perfect.
'He' is your ideal partner.........if you were to get one. If you really did have one in the past, he was def NOT your ideal.
Having your fantasy partner blemished, would leave you feeling a failure in 'pretend world' also.

We do know a lot about you.:(
In one of your earlier 'guises' you were bipolar. You had a wrath against men who were only interested in sex, and not in a monog emotional relationship with you.
You detest an overly high interest in sex, and want others to detest it too. This new way of lashing out, may be your best yet.:thumbu:
But it changes nothing in your life. There's nobody there congratulating you in your manic phase. Nor comforting you when you crash.
You make that improbable for yourself by drowning in your negative anti-social behaviour. If you were to meet a genuine person as you describe, you'd drive them away.

If you are still refusing to accept your bipolar (as you did before), I suggest you go get a review. You are not acting healthily!
How many need to tell you that?

[pole_smoker]

Gearbox-My partner doesn't have an account because he's not interested in this site. I have never posted on this site before.

No I'm not bipolar, or manic. I don't have any mental, or physical illness.

My partner knows I post on this site and doesn't care, yes he's seen my posts here.

It's not my problem if you don't believe me. You're just some stranger on the internet with your own agendas. But the ignore feature does work on you and the other troll bibedbud. Neither of you are actual psychologists or psychiatrists, and it must be nice posting from your comfy armchair and assuming things that aren't true about a total stranger.

[Gearbox]

Gearbox-My partner doesn't have an account because he's not interested in this site. I have never posted on this site before.

No I'm not bipolar, or manic. I don't have any mental, or physical illness.

It's not my problem if you don't believe me. You're just some stranger on the internet with your own agendas.
Oh c'mon! If you are so sure of your mental state, show this site to a therapist, councilor, friend etc.
That's all you'd need to do. I guarantee you'd get some help.

[BiBedBud]

^^^^^Gearbox, I can tell that you've got his best interests at heart, while I'm over here wanting to break his mental block with a sledgehammer. I never knew you were such a humanitarian!

pole_smoker, if you've got any sense at all, you'll take Gearbox's advice, and bring this website to the attention of a bonafide psychiatrist (one with admitting priviledges). See if they don't concur with your Dr. Gearbox and Dr. BiBedBud. (We probably wouldn't hear back from you for like, 90 days, or whatever the initial commital period is in your NY state, assuming that's where you are.)

[BiBedBud]

There are some SUGGESTIONS I would like to offer all reasonable, level-headed members of bisexualdotcom; if you appreciate this place for what it was and can be again.

The first is: Find a thread that has merit in your eyes, and make a post there to further that discussion. You might have to do some deep digging, but those threads are still there if you search DEEP into the forum. Do this today for three reasons. First and foremost, to help ‘elevate’ this place (hopefully) above the painfully boring tirade foisted upon us by that fucker, “pole_smoker”. You don’t have to post poetry. Just be genuine. (Unlike that facetious pole_fucker.) The second reason to do this is to help us hose some of pole_smoker’s shit off the ‘Recent Threads’ board on the homepage. He’ll likely hate to see anyone else’s thread there, but fuck him, right? The third is because discussion threads that grow ‘stale’ beyond a secret limit set by Drew, will become ‘Locked’ and end-up in an archive, rather than the discussion forum.

The second thing to do: Make greater use of the ‘Subscribe to Thread’ feature of bisexualdotcom. Rather than relying on the “Recent Threads” board (which pole_fucko has effectively hijacked, much to the consternation of many); the “Subscribe to Thread” feature offers a few *powerful options* to customize your personal experience at bisexualdotcom (including ‘pushed notifications’). To do so, go to the first page of any thread you like, and right above that first post in the thread, on the right hand side, you will see a link for “Thread Tools” and by clicking it, one of the options you’ll discover is “Subscribe to this Thread”. Click on that. You will see further options for “Notification Type” and “Folders”, which you can combine powerfully to greatly improve your experience here at bisexualdotcom – pole_smoker be damned!

The third suggestion is simply to avoid adding to the problem of ‘Thread Spam’ that we’re having with pole_smoker. Of course, I do realize that you might think that I’ve added to the problem myself, and I wouldn’t argue otherwise, except to say that I’m sorry I can be disruptive while dealing with a disruption. It’s a necessary evil, I’d suggest, because that BS really ticks me off and I’m not alone in that regard. Rest assured, I am eager to get back to discussing more interesting topics with actual bisexuals (instead of BS from that self-loathing homo pole_smoker).

So, to be specific, try to avoid “Thread Spam” by observing the following TWO FRIENDLY SUGGESTIONS REGARDING THREAD CREATION:

Avoid thread titles that are “click bait”, i.e. non-descriptive, non-specific or confusing. Thread titles should help readers decide if they want to click, not tempt, trick or tease them to click. As ethical bisexuals, let us keep our soliciting to sex (whether literal, figurative or actual) with each other – and leave our clicks alone! While you’re at it: Make sure the first few words in your first post, summarize what the *new* thread is about, which you can elaborate further, later in that same starting post. This is helpful because the beginning words of the beginning post of a thread will appear as ‘pop-up text’ when you mouse-over the thread’s title on the ‘Recent Threads’ board. Clarifying everything up-front, will help readers make informed clicks.

Avoid starting threads for transient or non-persistent purposes. Threads (in most forums online) are usually devoted to ongoing discussions, not chit-chat, nothing temporary or passing, and no “personal topics” which would better belong in a chat room. Chat rooms are where transient-interest “posts” belong. Such “statements” are not supposed to be used as thread/topic titles!

Of course, I do understand that bisexualdotcom isn’t like other (work related) online forums, and I also recognize that it isn’t a good idea to try to shoehorn this place into what the “ideal” forum is. This isn’t a work-related site and sex is supposed to be playful (however you define that), and so we can bend rules for reasons of humour and cheer, and occasionally for ‘housekeeping’ with such threads as “Dear So-and-So: Your Inbox is Full!” or fun and games like “Label Recognition”. That kind of thing boils down to ‘hominess’ and I wouldn’t want to curtail any of that if it helps my fellow bisexuals have some sexy bisexual fun.

All I’m sayin’ is that there is a better way to use this place than we are availing ourselves of. Just imagine these two scenarios:

IMAGINE: A series of tornadoes are snaking across Kansas, and one member starts a thread entitled (something like) “Keep safe from those storms peeps!” which is both click bait and transient (though quite common to see here). While I empathize with the sentiment expressed; no one in genuine danger of the storms is likely to get this message in time. Inherently, interest in such a topic will last only hours, at most; yet will remain in the bisexualdotcom database FOREVER (or until purged, which imposes an administrative cost). OTOH if there was instead a thread for “Kansas (and bordering areas) Bisexuals and Bisexuality”, peeps in Kansas can actually subscribe to that thread (in advance) and so a post there could actually get “pushed” right to someone’s handset/smartphone (assuming their notifications and email are set-up to allow it). In this scenario, a *post* remarking “Keep safe from those storms peeps!” that was made in a ‘Kansas-dedicated’ thread – this would be a very good thing, and perhaps even provide first warning for someone. This is infinitely better than the way we’re (collectively) doing things now, with ‘Thread Spam’ that does little more than gum-up the works (particularly the ‘Recent Threads’ board).

IMAGINE: You want to organize and plan for some kind of ‘bisexual event’ like a meat-and-greet barbecue in a city park somewhere, let’s say in Kansas City. The problem with your plan is that you’ve only got a month to make it happen, because the idea just hit you and summertime is short. (Too short!) If you come here to bisexualdotcom and start a new thread with a title like “Bisexual BBQ in Kansas City Park July 4”, only peeps who see that thread during those thirty days, will even hear about it before it happens.

Consider that most members don’t visit all that often, and many, many members haven’t visited in years, for whatever reason. Posting a new thread will do nothing for them, and you’ll miss them completely. OTOH, if you post in that SAME, ALREADY STARTED THREAD “Kansas (and bordering areas) Bisexuals and Bisexuality”, AND IF bisexuals in Kansas can get it together by subscribing to that thread and setting up their notifications and email properly; EVEN IF many members haven’t been here in a great long while, they’ll still get that notification and your turn-out will be GREAT because of it!

Can you dig it? Can you dig it?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-OYKd8SVrI



PS: I do realize that I don’t have any authority here whatsoever, and so no grounds to be setting rules or asking others to do as I say. I AM NOT A MOD HERE and I’m not pretending to be one (although I have volunteered for the privilege, just as I’ve encouraged others to do as well). The above are offered only as *FRIENDLY SUGGESTIONS* and they are no more onerous than what I observe myself.

PPS: To be clear on my third suggestion regarding not contributing to ‘Thread Spam’; some people have voiced the opinion that ‘sparring’ with pole_smoker is tantamount to ‘feeding the troll’; and I want to explain why I don’t think this is the case.

Although I am not a psychologist or psychiatrist; I do have an undergrad in psychology and I frequently undertake my own version of profiling and assessments because of my work. Managing often difficult personalities and their sometimes abnormal psychology, to orchestrate complex undertakings successfully – this is my daily work. I know people, because I study what makes them tick, and this “pole_smoker” has definitely given us a lot to study. (NB: This is only the most recent, most problematic account/username used by the same problem person.)

Whereas most normal members of bisexualdotcom come here because they are curious, interested, wondering or are otherwise horny or they just want to share, flirt and play (all of which are legit reasons); our resident “pole_smoker” comes here for his version of validation. He extracts this ‘validation’ from everyone who visits bisexualdotcom, particularly those of us who post; at a significant nuisance cost to everyone. He derives this false validation from dominating the ‘Recent Threads’ board (I know, WTF? Right?) and by playing his version of “mind games”.

It seems to me, a major motivation behind his “mind games” is to help paint a decidedly negative impression of bisexuals and bisexuality. I have wondered if these “mind games” featuring vulgar and imagistic inanity are intended to be off-putting for newbie site visitors, to repulse them from the very idea of bisexuality. I have even considered if some dedicated/fanatical group (like the Mormon Church?) has an active ‘smear campaign’ running against this website, similar to COINTELPRO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO). Note that the Mormon Church of JC and LDS has been caught illegally spending $25 Million to defeat same sex marriage in California (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/fred-karger/mormongate----the-churchs_b_163016.html); all because they see bisexuality as the “gateway to gay” and this threatens their entire theology (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhwOQPXcCAA). (Please note I’m using the term “mind games” ironically and sarcastically at the same time).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWCum9yQhTg

For the time being, let us assume pole_smoker is just a single sick individual, and not the figurehead of some organization. This assumption reveals a number of dead-giveaways as to his underlying psychological motivations.

His overly frequent invocation of his “partner” and constantly referencing what he and his “partner” are into and do and how his “partner” and him were whateverelsehecanthinkof-yada-fucking-yada…“partner”……. yada…. This gives me the overpowering impression that his “partner” doesn’t even exists.

His whole “partner” thing just seems so contrived. So desperate! Pretty much every time he mentions his “partner” it’s to testify as to how thoroughly he agrees with him. (Yeah, right!) Now, I know some peeps, and even counting among them many people who have been married for decades – I don’t know anyone who takes as many opportunities to reference their partner, usually as “back up” or other proof of what he thinks/does himself, as does our resident pole_smoker.

It’s just not believable.

Even considering those normal people I know who are frequently mentioning their partner, there’s usually an anecdote there, or a joke at their expense, or conversely some self-deprecating humour that hinges on something their partner did or said. There is depth there, back-story of the genuine kind.

But, that’s not what we get from pole_smoker.

Instead, we get lies best read-out in a child’s voice – a child’s voice make-believing, trying desperately to convince us in some quest for validation. In fact, I can’t find anyone else at bisexualdotcom who seems so desperate for such validation from the rest of us. There is nobody here trying as hard to convince us of something, anything, as hard as this pole_fucker is trying to convince us how well-adjusted and happily partnered and sexually satisfied he is.

This is because WE DON’T GIVE A FUCK! WE TRULY DON’T CARE and most people with any sense about them recognize that and don’t try to “relate” in this way. Instead, normal people share, they share questions and answers and jokes and stories and they flirt. This pole_fucker doesn’t function this way. He mal-functions. He is a defective person.

What really stinks-out-loud is the incongruity between his supposedly ‘intact’ status (uncut dick), coupled with his rabid anti-circumcision stance concomitant with his NON-STOP penis/ejaculation/cum fixation. This profile-behaviour doesn’t add-up: It is incongruent.

As someone who is intact myself I am sure that if I ever am lucky enough to have a son, that he’ll be kept intact while he is on ‘my watch’; and so the whole ‘circumcision debate’ doesn’t really resonate with me. It’s just not something I can get fired-up about; partly because it doesn’t and won’t affect me or mine, and partly because there are other evils in this world that I’m more worried about. Accordingly, circumcision isn’t an issue I’m likely to get all hot-and-bothered about, let alone as volcano-like as is this pole_smoker. I’m pretty sure most intact guys feel the same. But this pole_smoker takes a different tack.

Altogether, taken in aggregate, a clearer picture begins to emerge:

1) Which explains why his parental/caregivers were so distant and aloof during his formative years, and

2) Also explains why they developed the habit of discussing him in the third-person sense (even while in the same room with him).

3) The penis/ejaculation/cum fixation is inherently self-centred; and is thematically evident in his thread spam, his posts and many of his suspected alternate usernames. The apparent strength and sharpness of the fixation clearly indicates significant early childhood disturbance, as well as continuing sexual dysfunction. It is likely that he has great difficulty “achieving” and maintaining an erection, and likely has problems bringing himself to orgasm. (I outright dismiss his fallacious claims of having a partner – I just don’t buy it – it all seems like childish make-believe.)

4) Almost as plentiful as his annoying polls, are his rabidly anti-circumcision messages – which are highly unusual from someone who is supposed to be intact. “Methinks thee doth protest too much!”

The picture coming into focus, I assess; centers on the botched circumcision suffered by pole_smoker. His parents, burdened with guilt, remained distant and aloof all his life; and discussing him in the third-person was fundamentally, just the way it always was for him. Many, deep psychological scars were imparted to pole_smoker stemming from this one incident very early in his life. Likely, the attempted corrective surgeries later in life were persistently painful as well, and obviously not entirely successful, otherwise he’d be a better adjusted adult than he is.

It is clear, there was a great deal of pain involved, and it has left its mark. I can see it clear across the internet.

I actually feel sorry for him.

But this isn’t the place for him to exercise his demons. He should find a support group somewhere, for men suffering from botched circumcisions and the psychosexual mal-adaptations and dysfunctions that arise from them.

It would be the best thing for him, and the best that any of us could wish for him. Anything else that serves to perpetuate the validation he seeks here; is in truth, a cruelty to all of us, and especially to him.

So, while it is certainly true that everyone else posting here is seeking legit attention for the things they type; this pole_smoker is seeking a particular kind of attention for himself known as ‘validation’. He desperately needs this because he is so terminally insecure. Understand that this isn’t about someone exchanging views or trying to understand themselves or others, sharing and discussing based on their life experience and the perspective of accumulated wisdom. That’s not what pole_smoker is doing here.

Instead, pole_smoker doesn’t want anyone to challenge anything he types on bisexualdotcom. He wants us to just ‘swallow it’ because he comes here to pretend and make-believe in a *futile* attempt to feel better about himself (which he never can). Of course, it doesn’t make rational sense to normal people, which is precisely what characterizes it as abnormal psychology.

If we try to ignore him, the problem will persist indefinitely because he can never find ‘relief’ here by doing what he is doing. It’ll only get worse, and it’ll do him no favours either. Certainly, all the rest of us will suffer for it as well; as will this website (likely until its effective death).

If we ‘engage’ with him and effectively ‘feed the troll’ by addressing him directly in any way; this too won’t help (as others here have suggested). The reason why this tactic won’t help is twofold. First, because he feeds on negativity and second because engaging with him directly still affords him opportunities to foist his judgemental BS on the rest of us.

I recommend that we don’t ignore him. (Name a single classroom teacher who ever ‘ignored’ a problem child, and I’ll show you an ineffective teacher with no control of the classroom.) I also recommend that we don’t address him directly. Instead, we should do what his parents did, which he found so distasteful. We should only ever discuss this troll in the ‘third person’ sense, ensuring that he knows for sure that we know he is full of shit.

It’s not about ‘stooping to his level’ and going all-negative in some kind of mud-slinging competition. (I agree that this wouldn’t help, and that it would be bad for the forum.) Rather, it’s just about calling it like I/we see it; and I do believe a consensus opinion of pole_smoker was formed a long time ago.

[pole_smoker]

^
If there was ever a TLDR (too long didn't read) of BS posted by the troll bibedbud it's actually, the above post.

I'm not cut. So my penis is completely unmutilated and not botched the way guys who are cut are.

[BiBedBud]

.................... REDACTED.......................

I'm not cut. So my penis is completely unmutilated and not botched the way guys who are cut are.
Methinks thee doth protest too much! :rolleyes:

[pole_smoker]

Methinks thee doth protest too much! :rolleyes:
Methinks thee doth troll too much! :rolleyes:

I sure don't need to prove anything to a troll like you.

I'm not cut or mutilated, and that's that.

Stop obsessing about me, and stalking me.

Sex between us will never happen even if you wish it would since you're that obsessed with me as the other trolls here are.

[AGuyIKnow]

I'm not cut. So my penis is completely unmutilated and not botched the way guys who are cut are.
You'll have a hard time proving that it really matters.

[pole_smoker]

You'll have a hard time proving that it really matters.
Nope.

I have been with many women and men who have told me how they highly prefer, or only want a male partner that's intact since sex with an intact man is more fun, enjoyable, and pleasurable than it is with guys who are cut/mutilated.

[AGuyIKnow]

I might have actually believed that if you had also said that they required that you didn't speak.

[jem_is_bi]

Nope.

I have been with many women and men who have told me how they highly prefer, or only want a male partner that's intact since sex with an intact man is more fun, enjoyable, and pleasurable than it is with guys who are cut/mutilated. I fail to see why that proves that you have a superior dick. My long time male partner is uncut. But, that has no significance to me. It does not enhance my pleasure or detract from my pleasure of sex with him. However, maybe my opinion should be ignored.

[pole_smoker]

I might have actually believed that if you had also said that they required that you didn't speak.
^
I don't care if you believe it, or don't. That's what's happened lots of times.

[Gearbox]

238 poles since August......and counting.
We are not all psychiatrists, but you don't need to be a plumber to recognize a burst pipe.:eek:

[Fresia]

He and his penis have much in common.
They are both undercover dicks.

[BiBedBud]

The lyrics are NSFW but offer much good guidance on handling pole_fucko...... ENJOY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX-7BlRc_a0

[JaredT77]

The lyrics are NSFW but offer much good guidance on handling pole_fucko...... ENJOY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX-7BlRc_a0

I loved the Geto Boys! This song is fitting.

[BiBedBud]

Here's a clip from "Office Space" featuring that same Geto Boys tune and what I'd love to do to pole_fucko..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PywI0BOxJpI

[JaredT77]

Here's a clip from "Office Space" featuring that same Geto Boys tune and what I'd love to do to pole_fucko..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PywI0BOxJpI

As much as I love the movie and I love the Geto Boys, be careful what you say. It could get you in trouble. I remembered awhile ago before I got married, I was on CollarMe.com and was chatting with this one hot chick. Before I could meet her, she wanted me to meet a guy and pleasure him first. I declined and she got pissed off and was threatening to blackmail me by telling the Navy that I was bisexual a few years before the ban was lifted. I went on deployment to the Middle East, came back, moved to Virginia with my soon to be ex-wife and never met her. However the guy that I was supposed to have pleasured was found murdered. Apparently, the girl that I was chatting with online was the guy and he was running scams on military men for what he was trying to blackmail me for. So a detective from Florida was interviewing me over the phone as a person of interest. I denied ever meeting the guy and instead met my future ex-wife instead. I got NCIS to help me out on the investigation and never heard about the case again.

As much as I felt the person deserved what he got, it was still wrong. As much as we both dislike this individual like pole_smoker, it was still wrong for me to threatened his life online. I don't know the creep and I don't want to know him. He doesn't know me either and can make all the accusations he wants. I just don't care about this guy and not wasting my time bad mouthing him anymore.

[larrywilldo]

There are some SUGGESTIONS I would like to offer all reasonable, level-headed members of bisexualdotcom; if you appreciate this place for what it was and can be again.

The first is: Find a thread that has merit in your eyes, and make a post there to further that discussion. You might have to do some deep digging, but those threads are still there if you search DEEP into the forum. Do this today for three reasons. First and foremost, to help ‘elevate’ this place (hopefully) above the painfully boring tirade foisted upon us by that fucker, “pole_smoker”. You don’t have to post poetry. Just be genuine. (Unlike that facetious pole_fucker.) The second reason to do this is to help us hose some of pole_smoker’s shit off the ‘Recent Threads’ board on the homepage. He’ll likely hate to see anyone else’s thread there, but fuck him, right? The third is because discussion threads that grow ‘stale’ beyond a secret limit set by Drew, will become ‘Locked’ and end-up in an archive, rather than the discussion forum.

The second thing to do: Make greater use of the ‘Subscribe to Thread’ feature of bisexualdotcom. Rather than relying on the “Recent Threads” board (which pole_fucko has effectively hijacked, much to the consternation of many); the “Subscribe to Thread” feature offers a few *powerful options* to customize your personal experience at bisexualdotcom (including ‘pushed notifications’). To do so, go to the first page of any thread you like, and right above that first post in the thread, on the right hand side, you will see a link for “Thread Tools” and by clicking it, one of the options you’ll discover is “Subscribe to this Thread”. Click on that. You will see further options for “Notification Type” and “Folders”, which you can combine powerfully to greatly improve your experience here at bisexualdotcom – pole_smoker be damned!

The third suggestion is simply to avoid adding to the problem of ‘Thread Spam’ that we’re having with pole_smoker. Of course, I do realize that you might think that I’ve added to the problem myself, and I wouldn’t argue otherwise, except to say that I’m sorry I can be disruptive while dealing with a disruption. It’s a necessary evil, I’d suggest, because that BS really ticks me off and I’m not alone in that regard. Rest assured, I am eager to get back to discussing more interesting topics with actual bisexuals (instead of BS from that self-loathing homo pole_smoker).

So, to be specific, try to avoid “Thread Spam” by observing the following TWO FRIENDLY SUGGESTIONS REGARDING THREAD CREATION:

Avoid thread titles that are “click bait”, i.e. non-descriptive, non-specific or confusing. Thread titles should help readers decide if they want to click, not tempt, trick or tease them to click. As ethical bisexuals, let us keep our soliciting to sex (whether literal, figurative or actual) with each other – and leave our clicks alone! While you’re at it: Make sure the first few words in your first post, summarize what the *new* thread is about, which you can elaborate further, later in that same starting post. This is helpful because the beginning words of the beginning post of a thread will appear as ‘pop-up text’ when you mouse-over the thread’s title on the ‘Recent Threads’ board. Clarifying everything up-front, will help readers make informed clicks.

Avoid starting threads for transient or non-persistent purposes. Threads (in most forums online) are usually devoted to ongoing discussions, not chit-chat, nothing temporary or passing, and no “personal topics” which would better belong in a chat room. Chat rooms are where transient-interest “posts” belong. Such “statements” are not supposed to be used as thread/topic titles!

Of course, I do understand that bisexualdotcom isn’t like other (work related) online forums, and I also recognize that it isn’t a good idea to try to shoehorn this place into what the “ideal” forum is. This isn’t a work-related site and sex is supposed to be playful (however you define that), and so we can bend rules for reasons of humour and cheer, and occasionally for ‘housekeeping’ with such threads as “Dear So-and-So: Your Inbox is Full!” or fun and games like “Label Recognition”. That kind of thing boils down to ‘hominess’ and I wouldn’t want to curtail any of that if it helps my fellow bisexuals have some sexy bisexual fun.

All I’m sayin’ is that there is a better way to use this place than we are availing ourselves of. Just imagine these two scenarios:

IMAGINE: A series of tornadoes are snaking across Kansas, and one member starts a thread entitled (something like) “Keep safe from those storms peeps!” which is both click bait and transient (though quite common to see here). While I empathize with the sentiment expressed; no one in genuine danger of the storms is likely to get this message in time. Inherently, interest in such a topic will last only hours, at most; yet will remain in the bisexualdotcom database FOREVER (or until purged, which imposes an administrative cost). OTOH if there was instead a thread for “Kansas (and bordering areas) Bisexuals and Bisexuality”, peeps in Kansas can actually subscribe to that thread (in advance) and so a post there could actually get “pushed” right to someone’s handset/smartphone (assuming their notifications and email are set-up to allow it). In this scenario, a *post* remarking “Keep safe from those storms peeps!” that was made in a ‘Kansas-dedicated’ thread – this would be a very good thing, and perhaps even provide first warning for someone. This is infinitely better than the way we’re (collectively) doing things now, with ‘Thread Spam’ that does little more than gum-up the works (particularly the ‘Recent Threads’ board).

IMAGINE: You want to organize and plan for some kind of ‘bisexual event’ like a meat-and-greet barbecue in a city park somewhere, let’s say in Kansas City. The problem with your plan is that you’ve only got a month to make it happen, because the idea just hit you and summertime is short. (Too short!) If you come here to bisexualdotcom and start a new thread with a title like “Bisexual BBQ in Kansas City Park July 4”, only peeps who see that thread during those thirty days, will even hear about it before it happens.

Consider that most members don’t visit all that often, and many, many members haven’t visited in years, for whatever reason. Posting a new thread will do nothing for them, and you’ll miss them completely. OTOH, if you post in that SAME, ALREADY STARTED THREAD “Kansas (and bordering areas) Bisexuals and Bisexuality”, AND IF bisexuals in Kansas can get it together by subscribing to that thread and setting up their notifications and email properly; EVEN IF many members haven’t been here in a great long while, they’ll still get that notification and your turn-out will be GREAT because of it!

Can you dig it? Can you dig it?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-OYKd8SVrI



PS: I do realize that I don’t have any authority here whatsoever, and so no grounds to be setting rules or asking others to do as I say. I AM NOT A MOD HERE and I’m not pretending to be one (although I have volunteered for the privilege, just as I’ve encouraged others to do as well). The above are offered only as *FRIENDLY SUGGESTIONS* and they are no more onerous than what I observe myself.

PPS: To be clear on my third suggestion regarding not contributing to ‘Thread Spam’; some people have voiced the opinion that ‘sparring’ with pole_smoker is tantamount to ‘feeding the troll’; and I want to explain why I don’t think this is the case.

Although I am not a psychologist or psychiatrist; I do have an undergrad in psychology and I frequently undertake my own version of profiling and assessments because of my work. Managing often difficult personalities and their sometimes abnormal psychology, to orchestrate complex undertakings successfully – this is my daily work. I know people, because I study what makes them tick, and this “pole_smoker” has definitely given us a lot to study. (NB: This is only the most recent, most problematic account/username used by the same problem person.)

Whereas most normal members of bisexualdotcom come here because they are curious, interested, wondering or are otherwise horny or they just want to share, flirt and play (all of which are legit reasons); our resident “pole_smoker” comes here for his version of validation. He extracts this ‘validation’ from everyone who visits bisexualdotcom, particularly those of us who post; at a significant nuisance cost to everyone. He derives this false validation from dominating the ‘Recent Threads’ board (I know, WTF? Right?) and by playing his version of “mind games”.

It seems to me, a major motivation behind his “mind games” is to help paint a decidedly negative impression of bisexuals and bisexuality. I have wondered if these “mind games” featuring vulgar and imagistic inanity are intended to be off-putting for newbie site visitors, to repulse them from the very idea of bisexuality. I have even considered if some dedicated/fanatical group (like the Mormon Church?) has an active ‘smear campaign’ running against this website, similar to COINTELPRO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO). Note that the Mormon Church of JC and LDS has been caught illegally spending $25 Million to defeat same sex marriage in California (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/fred-karger/mormongate----the-churchs_b_163016.html); all because they see bisexuality as the “gateway to gay” and this threatens their entire theology (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhwOQPXcCAA). (Please note I’m using the term “mind games” ironically and sarcastically at the same time).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWCum9yQhTg

For the time being, let us assume pole_smoker is just a single sick individual, and not the figurehead of some organization. This assumption reveals a number of dead-giveaways as to his underlying psychological motivations.

His overly frequent invocation of his “partner” and constantly referencing what he and his “partner” are into and do and how his “partner” and him were whateverelsehecanthinkof-yada-fucking-yada…“partner”……. yada…. This gives me the overpowering impression that his “partner” doesn’t even exists.

His whole “partner” thing just seems so contrived. So desperate! Pretty much every time he mentions his “partner” it’s to testify as to how thoroughly he agrees with him. (Yeah, right!) Now, I know some peeps, and even counting among them many people who have been married for decades – I don’t know anyone who takes as many opportunities to reference their partner, usually as “back up” or other proof of what he thinks/does himself, as does our resident pole_smoker.

It’s just not believable.

Even considering those normal people I know who are frequently mentioning their partner, there’s usually an anecdote there, or a joke at their expense, or conversely some self-deprecating humour that hinges on something their partner did or said. There is depth there, back-story of the genuine kind.

But, that’s not what we get from pole_smoker.

Instead, we get lies best read-out in a child’s voice – a child’s voice make-believing, trying desperately to convince us in some quest for validation. In fact, I can’t find anyone else at bisexualdotcom who seems so desperate for such validation from the rest of us. There is nobody here trying as hard to convince us of something, anything, as hard as this pole_fucker is trying to convince us how well-adjusted and happily partnered and sexually satisfied he is.

This is because WE DON’T GIVE A FUCK! WE TRULY DON’T CARE and most people with any sense about them recognize that and don’t try to “relate” in this way. Instead, normal people share, they share questions and answers and jokes and stories and they flirt. This pole_fucker doesn’t function this way. He mal-functions. He is a defective person.

What really stinks-out-loud is the incongruity between his supposedly ‘intact’ status (uncut dick), coupled with his rabid anti-circumcision stance concomitant with his NON-STOP penis/ejaculation/cum fixation. This profile-behaviour doesn’t add-up: It is incongruent.

As someone who is intact myself I am sure that if I ever am lucky enough to have a son, that he’ll be kept intact while he is on ‘my watch’; and so the whole ‘circumcision debate’ doesn’t really resonate with me. It’s just not something I can get fired-up about; partly because it doesn’t and won’t affect me or mine, and partly because there are other evils in this world that I’m more worried about. Accordingly, circumcision isn’t an issue I’m likely to get all hot-and-bothered about, let alone as volcano-like as is this pole_smoker. I’m pretty sure most intact guys feel the same. But this pole_smoker takes a different tack.

Altogether, taken in aggregate, a clearer picture begins to emerge:

1) Which explains why his parental/caregivers were so distant and aloof during his formative years, and

2) Also explains why they developed the habit of discussing him in the third-person sense (even while in the same room with him).

3) The penis/ejaculation/cum fixation is inherently self-centred; and is thematically evident in his thread spam, his posts and many of his suspected alternate usernames. The apparent strength and sharpness of the fixation clearly indicates significant early childhood disturbance, as well as continuing sexual dysfunction. It is likely that he has great difficulty “achieving” and maintaining an erection, and likely has problems bringing himself to orgasm. (I outright dismiss his fallacious claims of having a partner – I just don’t buy it – it all seems like childish make-believe.)

4) Almost as plentiful as his annoying polls, are his rabidly anti-circumcision messages – which are highly unusual from someone who is supposed to be intact. “Methinks thee doth protest too much!”

The picture coming into focus, I assess; centers on the botched circumcision suffered by pole_smoker. His parents, burdened with guilt, remained distant and aloof all his life; and discussing him in the third-person was fundamentally, just the way it always was for him. Many, deep psychological scars were imparted to pole_smoker stemming from this one incident very early in his life. Likely, the attempted corrective surgeries later in life were persistently painful as well, and obviously not entirely successful, otherwise he’d be a better adjusted adult than he is.

It is clear, there was a great deal of pain involved, and it has left its mark. I can see it clear across the internet.

I actually feel sorry for him.

But this isn’t the place for him to exercise his demons. He should find a support group somewhere, for men suffering from botched circumcisions and the psychosexual mal-adaptations and dysfunctions that arise from them.

It would be the best thing for him, and the best that any of us could wish for him. Anything else that serves to perpetuate the validation he seeks here; is in truth, a cruelty to all of us, and especially to him.

So, while it is certainly true that everyone else posting here is seeking legit attention for the things they type; this pole_smoker is seeking a particular kind of attention for himself known as ‘validation’. He desperately needs this because he is so terminally insecure. Understand that this isn’t about someone exchanging views or trying to understand themselves or others, sharing and discussing based on their life experience and the perspective of accumulated wisdom. That’s not what pole_smoker is doing here.

Instead, pole_smoker doesn’t want anyone to challenge anything he types on bisexualdotcom. He wants us to just ‘swallow it’ because he comes here to pretend and make-believe in a *futile* attempt to feel better about himself (which he never can). Of course, it doesn’t make rational sense to normal people, which is precisely what characterizes it as abnormal psychology.

If we try to ignore him, the problem will persist indefinitely because he can never find ‘relief’ here by doing what he is doing. It’ll only get worse, and it’ll do him no favours either. Certainly, all the rest of us will suffer for it as well; as will this website (likely until its effective death).

If we ‘engage’ with him and effectively ‘feed the troll’ by addressing him directly in any way; this too won’t help (as others here have suggested). The reason why this tactic won’t help is twofold. First, because he feeds on negativity and second because engaging with him directly still affords him opportunities to foist his judgemental BS on the rest of us.

I recommend that we don’t ignore him. (Name a single classroom teacher who ever ‘ignored’ a problem child, and I’ll show you an ineffective teacher with no control of the classroom.) I also recommend that we don’t address him directly. Instead, we should do what his parents did, which he found so distasteful. We should only ever discuss this troll in the ‘third person’ sense, ensuring that he knows for sure that we know he is full of shit.

It’s not about ‘stooping to his level’ and going all-negative in some kind of mud-slinging competition. (I agree that this wouldn’t help, and that it would be bad for the forum.) Rather, it’s just about calling it like I/we see it; and I do believe a consensus opinion of pole_smoker was formed a long time ago.

I hope your employer is not paying for this post.

[BiBedBud]

I hope your employer is not paying for this post.
Don't worry, I am self employed (and you are quite presumptuous).

"Check yourself, don't project yourself!"

[FullSpectrum]

It is so simple and easy to remove from view any posts by anyone who offends you. Go to the person's profile. On the left side of the page below his/her avatar is a list of possible actions. The third one is, "add to ignore list." Click on that and you never have to see any posts by the offender, ever more.

[JaredT77]

It is so simple and easy to remove from view any posts by anyone who offends you. Go to the person's profile. On the left side of the page below his/her avatar is a list of possible actions. The third one is, "add to ignore list." Click on that and you never have to see any posts by the offender, ever more.

Nice CUT cock on your profile picture. Beautifully sculpted. It is up to the individual if they choose to let the guy get underneath their skin. Best thing to do is just don't comment back to his comments. He loves the attention and when you don't comment back, he probably hates it and feels rejected. He feeds on hate and just don't let him control you.

[njfresh]

I'm waiting for polls on which hand people use while pleasuring themselves.

[pole_smoker]

Nice CUT cock on your profile picture. Beautifully sculpted. It is up to the individual if they choose to let the guy get underneath their skin. Best thing to do is just don't comment back to his comments. He loves the attention and when you don't comment back, he probably hates it and feels rejected. He feeds on hate and just don't let him control you.


I will kill you dead! That, is a promise! I will mutilate you if you ever have the balls to show up to Florida. Chainsaw. You chickenshit coward!

You're the only troll and bully here.

what's it like to be completely obsessed with someone you don't even really know?

BTW that cut dick is gross. It's very dry, and mutilated as all cut dicks are.

[JaredT77]

I prayed to God for forgiveness of my words and for your soul. May God be with you.

[AGuyIKnow]

I finally just blocked him and no longer see any of his dribble. It's kind of like having a good sneeze.

[JaredT77]

I finally just blocked him and no longer see any of his dribble. It's kind of like having a good sneeze.

Yeah it's not worth getting all upset. I have said some bad things about this person last week. He can point out all the things he wants, he can do all the low blows he wants against me and my son, but in the end, it just makes him look bad. I'm choosing to turn the other cheek and just walk away. Nobody ever beat my ass growing up because I always knew it was never worth fighting and just walked away.

[BiBedBud]

As much as I love the movie and I love the Geto Boys, be careful what you say. It could get you in trouble. I remembered awhile ago before I got married, I was on CollarMe.com and was chatting with this one hot chick. Before I could meet her, she wanted me to meet a guy and pleasure him first. I declined and she got pissed off and was threatening to blackmail me by telling the Navy that I was bisexual a few years before the ban was lifted. I went on deployment to the Middle East, came back, moved to Virginia with my soon to be ex-wife and never met her. However the guy that I was supposed to have pleasured was found murdered. Apparently, the girl that I was chatting with online was the guy and he was running scams on military men for what he was trying to blackmail me for. So a detective from Florida was interviewing me over the phone as a person of interest. I denied ever meeting the guy and instead met my future ex-wife instead. I got NCIS to help me out on the investigation and never heard about the case again.

As much as I felt the person deserved what he got, it was still wrong. As much as we both dislike this individual like pole_smoker, it was still wrong for me to threatened his life online. I don't know the creep and I don't want to know him. He doesn't know me either and can make all the accusations he wants. I just don't care about this guy and not wasting my time bad mouthing him anymore.

^^^^^ JaredT77,

I hear what you're sayin'.......................

..................... maintain plausible deniability, and have a really good alabi.

No probs........ way ahead of you.

[JaredT77]

^^^^^ JaredT77,

I hear what you're sayin'.......................

..................... maintain plausible deniability, and have a really good alabi.

No probs........ way ahead of you.

I didn't need a alibi because I never met the person. I called that guy's bluff and he did nothing. Even if he did tell the Navy, he had nothing but naked pictures and heresay. Just need to ignore the negativity and bullshit online. I'm not saying anything negative about pole_smoker anymore. Pole_smoker can bring up all the bullshit he wants that I said to him. I'm not doing anything to the guy, it's not worth it. He wants to still feud with me then that's his problem because he's not pushing my buttons anymore.

[void()]

I didn't need a alibi because I never met the person. I called that guy's bluff and he did nothing. Even if he did tell the Navy, he had nothing but naked pictures and heresay. Just need to ignore the negativity and bullshit online. I'm not saying anything negative about pole_smoker anymore. Pole_smoker can bring up all the bullshit he wants that I said to him. I'm not doing anything to the guy, it's not worth it. He wants to still feud with me then that's his problem because he's not pushing my buttons anymore.


Pole_smoker can bring up all the bullshit he wants that I said to him. I'm not doing anything to the guy, it's not worth it.

Your pardon sir, he does have record of you threatening his life. As everything exists now, such words could be taken as acts of violence. I know this from experience. I dumbly expressed frustion incorrectly at a place of employment. I was fortunate to have only lost the employment, charges could have been pressed.

What I said was I felt like I could have killed someone (no specific names at all, just someone), if they were to look at me wrong. I was angry in the moment, and felt it was dumb a supervisor ask, "how you feeling?" Thought my expression and countenance revealed everything. Still, my words were cited as violation of zero tolerance policy in regards to violence.

In hindsight, I too would have terminated myself. That noted, roughly a decade ago folks were more understanding. "Oh, he's just blowing off steam. I'll leave him be a while, he'll get through it." And yes, that was my intent, blowing off steam. I also figured in regard to the supervisor, "why ask if you don't want to know?" Seemed dumb they even asked. That was no excuse for my dumb response, though. In fact, their asking was very targeted and well thought.

Consider an Anglo-American caucasian working in a factory full of Hispanic, African, Asain, he works fine and seems to not have any issues with his co-workers. In fact, he seems to befriend anyone, be able to work in any position. Well, there lies a threat. In a few months he'll be moving up to line lead, few more months he'll make supervisor. The big problem is though, he does not seem interested in climbing the ladder. So, how do we get him out?

"Ah, look he gets frustrated over stupidity. Well then, let's show him stupidity. We'll run four times normal for a week, have all the machines go wonky ..." Easy enough to look back and find a common script to things. Easy too, to empathize with you sir. That aside, we sailors need to help each other. We need to get one another back in step at times. Here's my whack on the back of your skull, "get in step mate, you can drag us all under". As I said, he has record of you making a threat. That in itself ought to not have happened.

Granted you now accept you do not need to respond to him. Fine, carry on with that plotting. One suggestion. You sir, need to offer formal a public apology and redaction. I did much the same the day after losing the job. Phoned the local paper and apologized via public notice to the company for my words that violated company policy. It was enough to be generic, yet apologize. The company responded via public notice, they accepted my apology and considered the matter redacted.

I still did not retain the job. Did not want the job back. I had acted dumbly and found the consequences. The company terminating my employment, not pressing charges, was the company showing grace and mercy. That I respected. I goofed and was unprofessional for a minute. They showed me the standard.

"Don't sweat the small shit. It's only shit after all, we all know, shit happens. Keep on keeping on." And this applies directly to trolls and anyone/thing you disagree with, anyone/thing you think is stupid. Getting to the point I am now, took me years. I can see this all too clear now. Try not to take years, eh, mate?

Nota Bena: Please understand that you and pole_smoker are in my ignore list. I'm not the type of person which uses that feature lightly. Placing you both into that was a call from that silly voice in me called "better judgement". He told me to not get involved, that it looked as though you guys were being supremely negative, not merely for yourselves but everyone visiting here. He recently suggested I may say this much, here. He saw a mate going for the rocks. "Mates look out for mates." Beyond this, he says I need to hold fast.

If you desire replying, not sure I'll read it or not. May be better I do, or don't. At times I think some genius exists in me. Other times I easily wear a dunce cap. That's part of being human. Maybe it'll be forgiven, may not be too. All we are granted is to do our best. Now go do yours, s'all I'm saying and asking. I'll hold fast over here. Even if I don't buy into that whole notion of the Rock, I still can firmly grasp a rock to keep steady. Blood is blood, water is water, all the same we manage.

[JaredT77]

Your pardon sir, he does have record of you threatening his life. As everything exists now, such words could be taken as acts of violence. I know this from experience. I dumbly expressed frustion incorrectly at a place of employment. I was fortunate to have only lost the employment, charges could have been pressed.

What I said was I felt like I could have killed someone (no specific names at all, just someone), if they were to look at me wrong. I was angry in the moment, and felt it was dumb a supervisor ask, "how you feeling?" Thought my expression and countenance revealed everything. Still, my words were cited as violation of zero tolerance policy in regards to violence.

In hindsight, I too would have terminated myself. That noted, roughly a decade ago folks were more understanding. "Oh, he's just blowing off steam. I'll leave him be a while, he'll get through it." And yes, that was my intent, blowing off steam. I also figured in regard to the supervisor, "why ask if you don't want to know?" Seemed dumb they even asked. That was no excuse for my dumb response, though. In fact, their asking was very targeted and well thought.

Consider an Anglo-American caucasian working in a factory full of Hispanic, African, Asain, he works fine and seems to not have any issues with his co-workers. In fact, he seems to befriend anyone, be able to work in any position. Well, there lies a threat. In a few months he'll be moving up to line lead, few more months he'll make supervisor. The big problem is though, he does not seem interested in climbing the ladder. So, how do we get him out?

"Ah, look he gets frustrated over stupidity. Well then, let's show him stupidity. We'll run four times normal for a week, have all the machines go wonky ..." Easy enough to look back and find a common script to things. Easy too, to empathize with you sir. That aside, we sailors need to help each other. We need to get one another back in step at times. Here's my whack on the back of your skull, "get in step mate, you can drag us all under". As I said, he has record of you making a threat. That in itself ought to not have happened.

Granted you now accept you do not need to respond to him. Fine, carry on with that plotting. One suggestion. You sir, need to offer formal a public apology and redaction. I did much the same the day after losing the job. Phoned the local paper and apologized via public notice to the company for my words that violated company policy. It was enough to be generic, yet apologize. The company responded via public notice, they accepted my apology and considered the matter redacted.

I still did not retain the job. Did not want the job back. I had acted dumbly and found the consequences. The company terminating my employment, not pressing charges, was the company showing grace and mercy. That I respected. I goofed and was unprofessional for a minute. They showed me the standard.

"Don't sweat the small shit. It's only shit after all, we all know, shit happens. Keep on keeping on." And this applies directly to trolls and anyone/thing you disagree with, anyone/thing you think is stupid. Getting to the point I am now, took me years. I can see this all too clear now. Try not to take years, eh, mate?

Nota Bena: Please understand that you and pole_smoker are in my ignore list. I'm not the type of person which uses that feature lightly. Placing you both into that was a call from that silly voice in me called "better judgement". He told me to not get involved, that it looked as though you guys were being supremely negative, not merely for yourselves but everyone visiting here. He recently suggested I may say this much, here. He saw a mate going for the rocks. "Mates look out for mates." Beyond this, he says I need to hold fast.

If you desire replying, not sure I'll read it or not. May be better I do, or don't. At times I think some genius exists in me. Other times I easily wear a dunce cap. That's part of being human. Maybe it'll be forgiven, may not be too. All we are granted is to do our best. Now go do yours, s'all I'm saying and asking. I'll hold fast over here. Even if I don't buy into that whole notion of the Rock, I still can firmly grasp a rock to keep steady. Blood is blood, water is water, all the same we manage.

Why should I ask for forgiveness from pole_smoker? I asked for forgiveness from God for my harsh words. Why should I do a public apology? So pole_smoker can insult me, my girlfriend, my 2 year old son, and my time in service to my country again? and again?

No, I choose not to respond back to his insults and I refuse to publicly apologize to him or to you Void. I don't even know you as well, and you have me on your Ignored list? Oh well. I stopped threatening the guy back on Thursday and choosing to turn the other cheek. Maybe you should mind your own business Void. You can always choose not to read and not to respond to a Thread. It just makes you look like a asshole to me when you're subjecting yourself into a feud that I am finished with. Your suggestions are duly noted but don't care.

[tenni]

Jared You may want to consider blocking Void as well. Some find Void endearing. He floats in and out of rational posts and you should not be concerned with his ramblings if they bother you. Void sometimes starts or ends his post with self depreciating words. I wonder if it is to mask what he fears may be offensive about his posts. Do you find it interesting how he can state that he has you on his ignore list and yet responds to your posts? It seems like an attempt to publicly ridicule you to me. He could just block you and say nothing but he has an intent to point out to everyone that he has blocked you. He may be cherry picking when to read your posts before logging in and deciding if today is the day to do double speak with you as his recipient.

[JaredT77]

Jared You may want to consider blocking Void as well. Some find Void endearing. He floats in and out of rational posts and you should not be concerned with his ramblings if they bother you. Void sometimes starts or ends his post with self depreciating words. I wonder if it is to mask what he fears may be offensive about his posts. Do you find it interesting how he can state that he has you on his ignore list and yet responds to your posts? It seems like an attempt to publicly ridicule you to me. He could just block you and say nothing but he has an intent to point out to everyone that he has blocked you. He may be cherry picking when to read your posts before logging in and deciding if today is the day to do double speak with you as his recipient.

Yeah you do make some really good points Tenni. I have chosen to take a high path and not feud with pole_smoker anymore but Void just has me confused on what point he is trying to make. I do apologize to pole_smoker and wish no harm upon him anymore. He can take my apology and we drop it or continue to insult me. With Void, I have no idea why he rambling on about ignoring me as well.

[NjbiGuy01]

Personally I have more important things in my own life than what goes on here on this site. I will say I'm a little disappointed in Drew. A visit once or twice a month to clean house and take out the trash would be nice. While he likely has more important things outside this website as well, if you cannot moderate you should maybe see about putting someone in place who would.

There is no real point in arguing with Pole_smoker, as he's convinced himself that he's somehow right and entitled to post his drivel. It makes no sense that he continues to post literally hundreds of pole posts, especially since people are now basically ignoring him less and less bay by day with each posting. Not sure how posting constantly makes him feel good, but apparently it does. You would think by now he would realize the annoyance he's become here and go away. What's the point of posting a pole with practically NO responses ?

Hopefully he realizes he's unwanted here.....and finds another website to dwell on.

[Tabu61]

I don't get all the rant about this guy. If you don't like what someone posts, just go to their profile and place the person on your ignore list. You will then not see anything he posts and he will not exist to you on the site. Outta sight, Outta mind. No need to complain, to explain or to feed the guy.
Just my opinion.

[pole_smoker]

Jared You may want to consider blocking Void as well. Some find Void endearing. He floats in and out of rational posts and you should not be concerned with his ramblings if they bother you. Void sometimes starts or ends his post with self depreciating words. I wonder if it is to mask what he fears may be offensive about his posts. Do you find it interesting how he can state that he has you on his ignore list and yet responds to your posts? It seems like an attempt to publicly ridicule you to me. He could just block you and say nothing but he has an intent to point out to everyone that he has blocked you. He may be cherry picking when to read your posts before logging in and deciding if today is the day to do double speak with you as his recipient.
Some people here need to get help about their major obsessions about complete strangers they don't even know.

Nobody is on my ignore/block list since it's for pussies who can't just learn to ignore people, or act like adults.

[JaredT77]

Some people here need to get help about their major obsessions about complete strangers they don't even know.

Nobody is on my ignore/block list since it's for pussies who can't just learn to ignore people, or act like adults.

I tried apologizing twice yet you spit in my face. So be it. At least I've tried apologizing in private and publicly on this Thread. Maybe you should do three things: 1) Follow your own advice and look in the mirror. 2) Follow your own advice and act like a adult yourself. 3) Find Jesus Christ in your heart.

[pole_smoker]

I tried apologizing twice yet you spit in my face. So be it. At least I've tried apologizing in private and publicly on this Thread. Maybe you should do three things: 1) Follow your own advice and look in the mirror. 2) Follow your own advice and act like a adult yourself. 3) Find Jesus Christ in your heart.
You did threaten to kill me.

Stop obsessing about me, and stalking me.

At one time I did accept JC, and only JC; but now I just believe in pretty much all religions including Christianity; but consider myself to be spiritual.

[JaredT77]

You did threaten to kill me.

Stop obsessing about me, and stalking me.

At one time I did accept JC, and only JC; but now I just believe in pretty much all religions including Christianity; but consider myself to be spiritual.

And you have insulted my son. But I forgive you because I don't know you and the good Lord wants me to. You actually believed that I was going to do something to you because I threatened you online? I know you're not going to come down to Florida because you're not going to waste your money on fighting somebody you don't know. I'm not worth your time of traveling to Florida. You want to come down to Central Florida? Have fun at Disney World with your partner.

I'm not obsessed or stalking you, I'm just intrigued by your behavior on this site. I always look forward to what you say next because it entertains me. I find you highly entertaining because everything annoying and insulting thing you say, entertains me. So thank you for entertaining me because it does bring a smile to my face. Before I was taking it too personal but I don't know you and you don't know me.

I apologize for threatening you pole_smoker. I don't wish any harm upon you and I don't want to fight you. I don't want to kill you either or cause you bodily harm. I would rather sincerely be your friend than feuding with you.

[pole_smoker]

And you have insulted my son. But I forgive you because I don't know you and the good Lord wants me to. You actually believed that I was going to do something to you because I threatened you online? I know you're not going to come down to Florida because you're not going to waste your money on fighting somebody you don't know. I'm not worth your time of traveling to Florida. You want to come down to Central Florida? Have fun at Disney World with your partner.

I'm not obsessed or stalking you, I'm just intrigued by your behavior on this site. I always look forward to what you say next because it entertains me. I find you highly entertaining because everything annoying and insulting thing you say, entertains me. So thank you for entertaining me because it does bring a smile to my face. Before I was taking it too personal but I don't know you and you don't know me.

I apologize for threatening you pole_smoker. I don't wish any harm upon you and I don't want to fight you. I don't want to kill you either or cause you bodily harm. I would rather sincerely be your friend than feuding with you.
OK thanks. I accept this apology.

[JaredT77]

OK thanks. I accept this apology.

You're welcome and I took you off my Ignore list. Can we be friends instead of enemies?

[pole_smoker]

You're welcome and I took you off my Ignore list. Can we be friends instead of enemies?
Sure.

[JaredT77]

Sure.

Thank you

[SilkyHoseLover]

A Kumbaya moment. How touching. :eek2: How Rodney King. :shades:

Will it last as long as a typical Israeli/Hamas ceasefire? (NOT taking sides)

Inquiring minds, you know...

[chtampa]

A Kumbaya moment. How touching. :eek2: How Rodney King. :shades:

Will it last as long as a typical Israeli/Hamas ceasefire? (NOT taking sides)

Inquiring minds, you know...

Or a predictable ending to a bad movie. Who wrote this script?

[JaredT77]

Maybe everyone here needs to quit being so judgmental of everyone else because you don't agree with what they say or do? Just a suggestion.

How many on here know everyone on a personal level? Everybody demands that Drew steps up and play the guardian and get rid of the bad "children" for being naughty and not playing nice with others.

We could be adults and handle things like civilized adults instead of whining brats. This IS a adult site and we do have to be at least 18 years old.

Pole_smoker and I chose to be adults and end this feud. I would rather be his friend or anybody else's friend than be enemies. What you do is up to you. Ain't nobody holding your hand.

[void()]

Maybe everyone here needs to quit being so judgmental of everyone else because you don't agree with what they say or do? Just a suggestion.

How many on here know everyone on a personal level? Everybody demands that Drew steps up and play the guardian and get rid of the bad "children" for being naughty and not playing nice with others.

We could be adults and handle things like civilized adults instead of whining brats. This IS a adult site and we do have to be at least 18 years old.

Pole_smoker and I chose to be adults and end this feud. I would rather be his friend or anybody else's friend than be enemies. What you do is up to you. Ain't nobody holding your hand.

=----> :)

[BiBedBud]

^^^^^^^^
Assuming the above ‘Kumbaya moment’ isn’t just another instance of pole_fucko using multiple accounts to argue with himself: It is BS like this that makes me thankful I’m an atheist.

Since I’m not a Christian, I don’t feel the least bit conflicted about despising pole_fucko. Scorn for the loathsome is one of my most inflexible policies, and I cherish the contempt I hold for him. So whether he gets run over by a bus, or chokes on a hotdog, or if he gets suddenly dispatched or lingers in long-term agony is really of no concern to me. I really don’t care what becomes of him, so long as his inane and decidedly vulgar thread spam stops.

Within that framework………………..………

………………..How do you Americans put it?

………. “All options are on the table”………

Sounds neatly “Executive”……

I like that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RFRZOkc1vg



Confidential to JaredT77: Perhaps you can’t judge a book by the cover, but deeds do speak. Consider also that you can judge someone by the company they keep, and your making friends the calibre of pole_fucko reflects poorly on you, IMHO (assuming, like I wrote above, that you’re not actually one-and-the-same pole_fucko posting with multiple accounts – in which case, you can “both” go…….. well, you know how I feel).

Kindly remember, all that is necessary for evil in this world, is for good people to stand aside. Making friends like pole_fucko is arguably worse.

[JaredT77]

^^^^^^^^
Assuming the above ‘Kumbaya moment’ isn’t just another instance of pole_fucko using multiple accounts to argue with himself: It is BS like this that makes me thankful I’m an atheist.

Since I’m not a Christian, I don’t feel the least bit conflicted about despising pole_fucko. Scorn for the loathsome is one of my most inflexible policies, and I cherish the contempt I hold for him. So whether he gets run over by a bus, or chokes on a hotdog, or if he gets suddenly dispatched or lingers in long-term agony is really of no concern to me. I really don’t care what becomes of him, so long as his inane and decidedly vulgar thread spam stops.

Within that framework………………..………

………………..How do you Americans put it?

………. “All options are on the table”………

Sounds neatly “Executive”……

I like that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RFRZOkc1vg



Confidential to JaredT77: Perhaps you can’t judge a book by the cover, but deeds do speak. Consider also that you can judge someone by the company they keep, and your making friends the calibre of pole_fucko reflects poorly on you, IMHO (assuming, like I wrote above, that you’re not actually one-and-the-same pole_fucko posting with multiple accounts – in which case, you can “both” go…….. well, you know how I feel).

Kindly remember, all that is necessary for evil in this world, is for good people to stand aside. Making friends like pole_fucko is arguably worse.

I'm sorry you feel that way. If you check out my profile, I am not pole_smoker. I have a picture of myself in my Navy full dress blues. Sounds like you are obsessed with hating the guy.

[charles-smythe]

Has this gone on long enough?
.
...who or what is 'a run away pole smoker'...and what's the problem?...