Do not clench your buttocks if stopped by police !

[BiJoe696]

The Daily Kos:

This news report out of New Mexico is so disturbing, it's hard to imagine this could happen in America. Talk about an unreasonable search: (http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3209305.shtml?cat=500#.UnkteqV41fN)

The incident began January 2, 2013 after David Eckert finished shopping at the Wal-Mart in Deming. According to a federal lawsuit, Eckert didn't make a complete stop at a stop sign coming out of the parking lot and was immediately stopped by law enforcement. Eckert's attorney, Shannon Kennedy, said in an interview with KOB that after law enforcement asked him to step out of the vehicle, he appeared to be clenching his buttocks. Law enforcement thought that was probable cause to suspect that Eckert was hiding narcotics in his anal cavity. While officers detained Eckert, they secured a search warrant from a judge that allowed for an anal cavity search.
Initially the doctor on duty refused the search, citing it as "unethical." Unfortunately, after several hours, hospital personnel relented and did the search. Here's what happened to David Eckert at that hospital:


While there, Eckert was subjected to repeated and humiliating forced medical procedures. A review of Eckert's medical records, which he released to KOB, and details in the lawsuit show the following happened: 1. Eckert's abdominal area was x-rayed; no narcotics were found.
2. Doctors then performed an exam of Eckert's anus with their fingers; no narcotics were found.
3. Doctors performed a second exam of Eckert's anus with their fingers; no narcotics were found.
4. Doctors penetrated Eckert's anus to insert an enema. Eckert was forced to defecate in front of doctors and police officers. Eckert watched as doctors searched his stool. No narcotics were found.
5. Doctors penetrated Eckert's anus to insert an enema a second time. Eckert was forced to defecate in front of doctors and police officers. Eckert watched as doctors searched his stool. No narcotics were found.
6. Doctors penetrated Eckert's anus to insert an enema a third time. Eckert was forced to defecate in front of doctors and police officers. Eckert watched as doctors searched his stool. No narcotics were found.
7. Doctors then x-rayed Eckert again; no narcotics were found.
8. Doctors prepared Eckert for surgery, sedated him, and then performed a colonoscopy where a scope with a camera was inserted into Eckert's anus, rectum, colon, and large intestines. No narcotics were found.
Throughout this ordeal, Eckert protested and never gave doctors at the Gila Regional Medical Center consent to perform any of these medical procedures.
Think that's outrageous? David Eckert has since been billed by the hospital for all the procedures and they are threatening to take him to collections. Must-watch news report on the case from KOB 4 in New Mexico: (http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3209305.shtml?cat=500#.UnkteqV41fN)

[ALAbiguy]

I read that story last night. The whole story is absolutely disgusting. I hope everyone involved is sued in to oblivion, and the cops end up in prison. What will probably happen to all the officials involved is maybe a little slap on the wrist, or more likely, absolutely nothing. The USA is slowly becoming a police state because we are becoming too timid to stand up for our rights. Incidents like this and others I read about, like deploying swat teams to arrest people on minor charges and they end up killing innocent people, should have people out in the streets demanding change and accountability. How bad are things going to have to get before people demand change? Will it be too late by then, or is it too late already?

[rickoyler1969]

In all proabally it is already TOO late, THE GOVERMENT CAN NOW DETAIN YOU AS LONG AS THEY WANT, WITH NO CONTACT ALLOWED TO THE OUTSIDE WORLD (all they need do is utter ONE word)

[snowcrazee]

Oh man the reprocussions from this are gonna hit every states voting booths... this will be talked about longer then that one dude that got shot by that one other dude for some reason... what was that guys name again?

[elmwood7]

I want to know where's the ACLU? Where's the congressman or senator of that state? Hell where's your president saying how this guy could be his son or brother? I hope he sued everybody involved. He should also try to get on tv and facebook to make as many people as possible aware of what happened.

[curious44]

I always check these things out. So many times these internet reports are simply the work of someone's imagination or trying to push a personal agenda but this one checks out. Here's another news report: http://www.lcsun-news.com/las_cruces-news/ci_24470334/cost-anal-probe-done-at-gila-regional-medical IMO, more evidence of the trillions that are wasted on the corrupt and unwinnable "war on drugs". Also reinforces a widely believed perception of the law enforcement community. Who wants to get up every morning and know this is the kind of day you look forward to. In between writing traffic tickets. Most of their contact with the public is on a negative basis. No wonder cops, as a profession, have higher rates of divorce and domestic violence incidents than average. Cops I'm familiar with have no friends outside of other cops. I know they're a necessary evil of society but not what I want to look forward to every day. I hope David Eckert winds up owning the whole town as a result of his suit. I can't help but wonder if they were watching his every move and finally got him for allegedly running a stop sign.

[NMCowboys]

I hope David Eckert winds up owning the whole town as a result of his suit. I can't help but wonder if they were watching his every move and finally got him for allegedly running a stop sign.

LMAO! It's Deming, a real megatropolis and it's a total shithole. You really think there's money there? :rolleyes:

Deming is so small he had to go to Silver City for the medical procedures.

There's more to this story that's not been released. The guy was probably acting like a total tweaker (crystal meth user), had prior drug related or drug smuggling arrests, was involved with gangs or the Cartel, had something on his record or did something that caused the police to think he had drugs on him or in his car.

You need to meet more people in law enforcement. They're not the way you describe.

It sounds odd but I have met gay men who have told me how what happened to David would be a fantasy come true for them.

[Annika L]

I can't help but wonder if they were watching his every move and finally got him for allegedly running a stop sign.

There's more to this story that's not been released. The guy was probably acting like a total tweaker (crystal meth user), had prior drug related or drug smuggling arrests, was involved with gangs or the Cartel, had something on his record or did something that caused the police to think he had drugs on him or in his car.


I'm with you on this...I got skeptical as soon as I heard he was asked to step out of his car for failing to stop at a stop sign. They wouldn't ask you to step out without some solid reason...not just suspicion of buttocks-clenching, lol.

[darkeyes]

I'm with you on this...I got skeptical as soon as I heard he was asked to step out of his car for failing to stop at a stop sign. They wouldn't ask you to step out without some solid reason...not just suspicion of buttocks-clenching, lol.
They wudnt? American polis must be honest and law abiding and have respect for the citizenry:). How nice.;)

[curious44]

Thank you, Darkeyes. :impleased

[Annika L]

They wudnt? American polis must be honest and law abiding and have respect for the citizenry:). How nice.;)

Fair enough that it only takes one bad apple to make a story like this a reality...and we have many more than one. So permit me to clarify.

I am certainly not saying that the cited story did not happen or that it was acceptable or satisfactorily explainable that it did. My only agreement with NMC was that there is more to this that hasn't been released. But my understanding is that if something as procedurally advanced as "alright, please step out of the car, sir" happens in such an incident, the reason must be filed. Now the *real* (non-filed) reason can be as flimsy as "she was cute" or "driving while black"...but there needs to be a reason filed. The story above leaves a nice big hole there, jumping from the man running a stop sign directly to the man clenching his buttocks as he got out of the car. If the reason they asked him to step out was that they saw, upon reviewing his license, that he had prior arrests for drug trafficking, then the rest of the story becomes a *lot* more understandable (NOT excusable, by any means...but I could see where a well-intentioned but stupid, paranoid or otherwise emotionally unstable officer might start down the rabbit hole that eventually led to this story). But we don't know precisely because there is more to this story that has not been released.

[12voltyV2.0]

It does seem that cases of this sort, along with cops resorting to either tasering or even shooting anyone who they feel at all threatens them to even a minimal extent happens more all the time. It is also very scary that in the name of "keeping us safe" that police are becoming highly militarized.

Just in the past week or so--there are reports about police departments being given--for free--surplus MRAP vehicles by the Defense Dept. that had been used by the military over in Iraq and Afghanistan as use for their Tactical (SWAT) units--even the Ohio State University Police Dept has obtained one of these vehicles.

I understand that there have been other people who reported having been violated by that same police department in this same manner with them also finding nothing and the invasive bodily searches were done just because the officers felt that the person was being "overly nervous" and such.

These days---I hate to say it--but when the cops stop you---you do have a very real reason to be concerned that something like this might happen to you. It is especially true if you are of some group that is not in the "majority"--namely--not being a white, middle aged, middle class person. If you are black or some other racial/ethinic minority, might look like you are a young hippy or "lefty" type---there are good reasons to be nervous if stopped by police.

This is a sad state of affairs that we are going in this direction.

[curious44]

I seem to be seeing reports lately of botched drug raids, usually at the wrong address because the cowboys depend on bad information they got from some junkie "informant". The cowboys pump their balls up, do a "dynamic entry" and trash the place while high fiving each other. When they realize they fucked up they just leave without so much as an apology and the innocent home owner, who may have been roughed up in the process, plays hell trying to get the cowboys to pay for the damages their incompetence and overzealousness caused. Let's see you defend these guys when it happens to someone in your family.

[NMCowboys]

It does seem that cases of this sort, along with cops resorting to either tasering or even shooting anyone who they feel at all threatens them to even a minimal extent happens more all the time. It is also very scary that in the name of "keeping us safe" that police are becoming highly militarized.

Just in the past week or so--there are reports about police departments being given--for free--surplus MRAP vehicles by the Defense Dept. that had been used by the military over in Iraq and Afghanistan as use for their Tactical (SWAT) units--even the Ohio State University Police Dept has obtained one of these vehicles.

I understand that there have been other people who reported having been violated by that same police department in this same manner with them also finding nothing and the invasive bodily searches were done just because the officers felt that the person was being "overly nervous" and such.

These days---I hate to say it--but when the cops stop you---you do have a very real reason to be concerned that something like this might happen to you. It is especially true if you are of some group that is not in the "majority"--namely--not being a white, middle aged, middle class person. If you are black or some other racial/ethinic minority, might look like you are a young hippy or "lefty" type---there are good reasons to be nervous if stopped by police.

This is a sad state of affairs that we are going in this direction.

What's your point? Local and State police departments, and SWAT teams also use drones. Technology changes all the time.

In New Mexico the majority of the population is Latino, and we have medicinal marijuana that's decriminalized since if someone wants a med card to buy weed they can easily get one, so your theory that unless you're middle class, middle aged, and white means you should be nervous around police does not hold water.

States along the U.S./Mexican border are huge hot spots for drug smuggling by the Cartel and they use people who blend in as mules. Unless someone has something to hide when they get pulled over by a local or state police officer there's no need to be nervous or flip out like some people do.

I also read another article about this guy where he'd been stopped before and they found meth or illegal drugs up his ass.

Or maybe he just got very cocky and said something like, "I dare you to do a full body cavity search!" and they did. Or he was free to go at any time after the basic body and car search happened but he thought he was being detained or forced to stay and go to a hosptal in a nearby village for the advanced medical procedure.

Either way this, and what happened to other people are minor compared to what can hypothetically or theoretically happen, and the American and world citizens let it happen.