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Cherokee_Mountaincat
Jun 8, 2013, 7:12 PM
In the store a bit ago my friend was shocked to have a Very good looking young man that I know approach me, greet me with a warm hug and big kiss. I introduced her to him and she just stared when he said, "I need to come see you soon. I'm needin' some me some Mama lovin'" I laughed and told him 'Any time, Darlin. You just let me know When"

After he kissed me again and ran off she stared at me, and exclaims, "WTF? Why do these men love you so much? I mean, no offence, but look at him! And look at you. I dont get it!"
All I could do is laugh at her as she looked flustered.

What? Big girls arent capable of being lusted over and desired? Think again......

I've had this said to me many times. At first I took it as an insult or slight, then I took it as jealousy. I had a gal say 'How the Hell do you keep coming up with these hot, gorgeous men?? What is it about you that draws them??" (I dont find Them, they find Me. Aint my fault!)

Why? Because I am Me. I'm not a beauty queen, or a Barbie-doll. I'm bold, out-going, natural, and just Me. I'm plain speaking, and say what I mean. I know what I like, and have no prob in saying so. I'm adventurous and sexually open. Men Like that. And some men love the "Mama" aspect to me as well. ;)
I know this sounds Horribly conceited, but it isnt meant to be that'a way. This is how people see me, plain and simple and just Moi. :love87:

Just be You, Ladies, and dont fret over the envy or jealousies of others toward you. Let your own natural sexuality Exude to all who see you. Self-confidence, not conceit, draws men(and women too) to you faster than anything! Be bold and beautiful, and let your soul shine through!! :}
Gentlemen, you be the same way. Just be the sweet, good-hearted men that you are, and let the Pumped up Peacocks be envious of your charm and ability to "Get the Girls" (And the Guys too in some cases:}
Have fun, be safe, and let em Be jealous...lol
Yer Cat

Country Guy
Jun 8, 2013, 8:34 PM
As a guy, I totally get why you're so popular. I think a lot of women don't get it though. Like my wife!!
She's a great gal, but she got 2 scoops of nice and didn't get any naughty.

Maybe you should teach classes :tongue:

It's better with a little HOT sauce

Gearbox
Jun 8, 2013, 8:52 PM
Those men have absolutely no standards or intelligence at all, or what you are posting about never happened and you just want to pretend to random strangers online that people actually want you sexually when in reality they do not at all. You complain about the other woman yet you're the one being majorly conceited and narcissistic. In reality you're unable to have an actual relationship with anyone male or female, but let's be honest who would want you as a relationship partner let alone a sexual partner? I feel bad for ANYONE who had the unfortunate experience of having sex, or let alone attempting a "relationship" with you.
Somebody out there will be really nice to you one day, and you'll accept it for what it is. You may even look at others who make the choice to be happy despite all the reasons not to, and realize that you can make that choice too.
Happiness may not seem honest or intelligent to you now, but one day you'll know it as wise.:)

Country Guy
Jun 8, 2013, 9:15 PM
I was just going to ignore him. 8 posts in 10 minutes and all of them negative. Hats off to Gear

VZR1800
Jun 8, 2013, 9:25 PM
Some people's kids. Join a nice site like this and go all-in negative. Seen em come, and usually see them go. This one will be going soon, sure of it.

dummmaz_arock
Jun 8, 2013, 9:41 PM
i totally agree with cherokee, it isn't always about looks you fools.... it is about attitude and obviously cherokee sends out the signal of sexiness because she feels that in herself. even the most beautiful girl in the world can have a shit attitude and nobody wants to fuck her.

VZR1800
Jun 8, 2013, 10:10 PM
Actually bro, I'm a nice guy but on the internet I can't stand liars like the OP who are ugly both inside and out, and not "nice" people, and they pretend that people actually want them when in reality they don't, are single for a reason, and are not happy people and have to make things up like her post pretending that men and women want her when in reality nobody wants her.

Cat is a very long time member of this forum. You are a one day newbie. Your rude comments, as if you know her and what she does, are going to get you banned if you do not cool it. Seen it happen many times, your next. Just because you do not approve of her looks, does not mean other guys also don't. Get a life, before you get unceremoniously banned.

Countdown until Drew steps in and beats you like a red-headed stepchild. ;-)

Paul B.
Jun 8, 2013, 11:12 PM
Cat, pay no mind to those of our posters who choose to bring their boorish behavior to the site.

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Jun 9, 2013, 4:30 AM
LOL Thank you Loves. Its ok. I dont pay any mind to mental Pygmies like that. He doesnt know me, and sounds like someone put gryphite (sp) in his lube this morning. :} Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and like Arock said, some of the most beautiful people in the world can be the most ugly and unattractive inside, And out. Its what's in a person's heart and soul that matters, and people's likes are their own.
My friend will get it eventually. She's new to being in my "Circle" but will learn to love the people in it, or not be able to hang. But, she Did ask about young man in kind of a drooly way, so maybe I'll send something purdy Her way sometime..lol
Big hugs to those who stood up for me, it was deeply appreciated. And to Arock...I'm just Cat, Hon. ;)

dickhand
Jun 9, 2013, 7:27 AM
I have seen a bio on the Mamas and the Papas . They marveled at how Mama Cass was always surrounded by throngs of young men . I suspect she was much like you , down to earth and real , open minded and adventurous . There is a certain deep attraction there . Physical beauty is only skin deep and fleeting . Power to the Mama !

justcurious4me
Jun 9, 2013, 9:44 AM
NOW THAT'S THE CAT I KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! Always warm and lovable and wickedly wild all at the same time!!! There is a cetain sweetness to her that is totally irresistable. She's absolutely right. If you are completely and confidently open and know what you want and what you like, you're golden... From the very first time I talked to her on the phone when I was in Seattle, within minutes she had me laughing my ass off and enjoying life. It was beautiful! Sorry I didn't get a chance to meet you in person. For me at least, that is a HUGE magnet... Confidence, wittiness, knowing what you want and going for it, (plus innocence with a touch of wickedness is a gorgeous combination as well - hehehehe)... Spot on Cat!!! :bigrin:

VZR1800
Jun 9, 2013, 11:48 AM
Dupe. Dang it all.:yikes2:

VZR1800
Jun 9, 2013, 11:50 AM
I hit that nail on the head. Drew spanked on Bi Twink like a red-headed stepchild. His posts are deleted. Every last one of them!... ;-)

Annika L
Jun 9, 2013, 2:55 PM
Somebody out there will be really nice to you one day, and you'll accept it for what it is. You may even look at others who make the choice to be happy despite all the reasons not to, and realize that you can make that choice too.
Happiness may not seem honest or intelligent to you now, but one day you'll know it as wise.:)

Quoted for truth and admiration, rather than to perpetuate an inflammatory comment that will soon be deleted.

I love you, Geary!

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Jun 9, 2013, 3:18 PM
Drew opened up a can of Troll Be Gone, and a can of Whoop Ass..lol We dont need that kind of kiddy-ish negitivity here. Good on you, Drew and thank you.
And for Just...Was glad to make you laugh and feel better til your family arrived, Babydoll. Kisses to you, anytime..:love87:
Ya'll's Cat..:}

i_shoot_blanks
Jun 9, 2013, 4:13 PM
MIss Kitty, It's been a while!!! I live about 1000 miles away and have never met Miss Kitty, but I love her dearly!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tenni
Jun 9, 2013, 5:08 PM
Cat and I do not always get along. Still, after a few years you do begin to recognize ( and enjoy..sometimes) her flirtatiousness and feminine mannerisms. She does seem to love getting (and giving) attention. I don't know quite how she does it but I can see guys becoming enamoured by her ways. She devil dumpling..lol

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Jun 9, 2013, 5:30 PM
Now, Now, Tenni, you Know that we share a love/hate relationship, and I'm fine with that. It makes us who we are. :} And ty for the compliment. Playful banter, and disagreement is all fine and dandy, but the a'fore mentioned Troll is just a person that caint help being a miserable grump. Its not just Moi that he jumped on (from what I can gather, I didnt get to see his other posts) but I suspect he's just a spynchter muscle (SP) with legs who gets off in degrading others for his own amusement because he thinks he Can.
And beware Tenni...I'll be up in your area come August or Sept. Maybe we can sit down and have lunch without tearing each other apart Too badly..lol *Evil grin*
Cat

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Jun 9, 2013, 5:33 PM
Aww ty Choots! Muahs to you wherever you'd like them..lol
Silly Cat

Gearbox
Jun 9, 2013, 7:28 PM
Quoted for truth and admiration, rather than to perpetuate an inflammatory comment that will soon be deleted.

I love you, Geary!
I love you more!;)

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Jun 9, 2013, 8:17 PM
QFT, DSC? Whats that mean...?

I have been asked to define Graphite. Remember when folks used to sharpen pencils and you got a black, powdery residue that could be picked up with a magnet? Or do you know what sandpaper is like? Graphite is used in both, as an abrasive And a powered lube for gears.
Now imagine that rough substance in your favorite lube, lotion, or Vasaline....OW. LOL
Cat

tenni
Jun 9, 2013, 8:31 PM
"Graphite is used in both, as an abrasive And a powered lube for gears."

What? Just for Gears? Not the Cat's, tennis, Annikas etc. of the world.

Well, I'm sure that he will share ;)

csrakate
Jun 10, 2013, 10:45 AM
Cat,
I have battled weight issues my entire life and I would have given anything to have your attitude and sense of self-confidence. I was always my own worst enemy and whenever I would get down on my self, my "sexual" self would also suffer. Due to health issues I had no choice but to deal with the weight and I am happy to say that I am finally at a point where I am truly happy with myself, but it's taken a lot of work to get here.

I admire you, Cat! Over the many years I have known you, you have made me realize, as well as many others, that sexual attractiveness isn't about looks or size, it's about attitude and heart. You have a great attitude and a very warm and loving heart! (and as pointed out by many, a wicked sense of humor and a naughty, naughty demeanor! LOL)

twoforone16
Jun 10, 2013, 7:50 PM
We both love your posts and one of the reasons we keep coming back

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Jun 11, 2013, 3:26 PM
Well thank you, Miss Kate, and Two! I'm just me, Darlings. Its the only who I Can be, and I wish others could see themselves in the same light. It doesnt matter What you look like, its the who that you Are that matters. If you have a wicked sense of humor about life, thats a plus too. What other people think of you is none of your business or concern, so live life to the fullest whilst you can...believe me, its too short to Not.
Miss Kate, you have always been a beautiful and caring Lady in every sense of the word, so always remember that...K? :}
Hugs to Ya'll.
Your Cat

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Jun 12, 2013, 4:11 PM
LMAO. As a side note: My friend got a visitor to her home last night. A very good looking young man by the name of David, who Adores bigger, older women. She now wears her "Cougar" badge Quite proudly. She's still a little stunned, but I know she had a birthday that she'll Never forget...LMAO. :cool:
Ribs hurting Cat

onewhocares
Jun 13, 2013, 12:07 AM
Well Cat,

I can say that being a six foot tall chubby blonde, not a fashion plate or a Barbie want to be, I still find it mind boggling that I attract men! When I was younger and had little self confidence it was hard. But all of a sudden I found myself and well, the whole world found me too. Yes, there are men who are interested in a woman's mind, sense of humor, ability to converse intellectually...and it is a bonus if they find an amazing sensual lover as well. As for the younger men, I had the pleasure of spending time with a young (34) year old Oxford Scholar. Our evening was filled with interesting conversation, great food, wine and fantastic sex. How many women my age can say they were undressed bit by bit out of the black bra, stockings and garters, made to quiver and gave back with unbridled passion and when the sex was over spent the night in each others arms talking about the most influential women in politics of the last fifty years. Not bad for this old chubby chick. My motto is ...the inside is what matters. YOU dear lady, are blessed.

Belle in Boston

jamieknyc
Jun 13, 2013, 10:37 AM
We miss you in chat, Cat. At least, you are never on in the daytime.

tenni
Jun 13, 2013, 2:21 PM
Post 30 is brought to you today but the same company that created these other gem :( Does someone need a happy pill or just an incurable fake flamer? Maybe, Cat has a happy cookie for him? ;)

“Are you looking for a job in a massage parlor? Or do you want to give your resume to a pimp, madam, strip club owner, or massage parlor owner? ;)”

“ewwwwwwww, that's nasty. Who was the singer? Are you sure he had 11 inches or did you just want him to have that many?”

“Who are you? Quit spamming.”

“Voltman-Are you naive? Did you just fall off the apple cart or something? LMAO even if it was billed as a burlesque place, it would still become very sleazy and people would still do sex for pay on...”

“This would be pointless most bisexuals would not want to go to this and instead would just rather stay at home and watch porn, and the strip club would turn into a club where straight men would go to...”

“Oh no! An obese emotionally needy and highly fragile closeted white trash woman with the intelligence of an idiot who is a complete stranger online hates me! What ever shall I do?!?!?! “


“Belle,
I'd be very angry and a total bitch too if I were a 48 year old fat woman who has knowingly been in a marriage of convenience for decades that's based on lies with a gay man who is afraid to...”


“That's true but most men not including bitchy swishy vapid queens, are more straightforward and will tell you that they do not like you or let it clearly be known in multiple ways more than most...”

BiBedBud
Jun 13, 2013, 2:56 PM
This is sort of off topic, but I just had to pipe-in......

I think the OP meant to refer to "back-handed compliments" and not "left-handed compliments". I trust this was her intention and I just wanted to point that out to everybody reading this thread, so that others don't make the same mistake.

Left-handed people have been subjected to a lot of discimination and prejudice in many societies around the world. I myself have older relatives who were quite literally beaten into writing/catching with their right hands; because of this prejudice, which is very, very deep; but taken for granted (and sometimes unfortunately perpetuated by people who don't know any better).

This all stems from very old beliefs, and it is firmly rooted in many western languages.

In French, right is "droit" and left is "gauche"; but these words also have other meanings that draw the distinction. "Le droit" also means "the right" (not 'on the right side', but literally, 'right' as in 'human rights'). "Le droit" can also mean "the law". On the other hand, "gauche" also means improper/unseemly or crude.

In Italian, the word for 'left' is "sinistro", which also means "sinister", a conotation which harkens back to the old days when left-handed people were thought to be the devil's helpers.

Even in English, "right" means "correct", "upstanding", "justified", and it also has that 'human rights' connotation. OTOH, "left" could mean 'remaindered', as in "left over". In common parlance, "Left" also refers to a supposedly backward political inclination, making "The Left" somewhat of a 'third rail' issue (touch it and you'll get zapped).

Historically, many so-called "witches" were burned at the stake; bought there by accusations which often included them being left-handed.


So therefore, please everybody kindly remember that there is absolutely nothing wrong with a "left-handed compliment", in much the same way that say, a left-handed handjob can be A-OK!


A "back-handed compliment", OTOH, is a manifestation of passive/aggressiveness and likely envy/jealousy; and you should never take something like that to heart, because it says much more about the person saying it than the person hearing it.

UpForItPayne
Jun 13, 2013, 3:04 PM
Too each his own I am a thirty yr old male that loves sex and I don't discriminate! I love sex so if people want to sleep with these ladies so be it. I would life is short have as much sex safe sex as possible! If these ladies stayed close to me I would he mire than glad to pay them a visit! Lol

BiBedBud
Jun 13, 2013, 3:29 PM
^^^^^^

Bias against left-handed people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_against_left-handed_people


The oppression of lefties - Left-handers deal with stereotypes just like other minorities
http://thetartan.org/2006/2/27/pillbox/lefthand


History of Left Handed People - sounds sinister!
http://www.left-at-the-start.com/


Rights for the Left-Handed?
http://www.csun.edu/~djo41504/left.html


A Different Kind of Hate
http://teenink.com/opinion/discrimination/article/238819/A-Different-Kind-of-Hate/


Left Over, Left Out, Left Behind: The Daily Discrimination against Left-Handed Students
http://blogcritics.org/left-over-left-out-left-behind/



All of the above links are from the first page of Google Hits when I entered "Left Handed Discrimination". I think the very fact that there's a wiki page on the topic, speaks volumes.

BiBedBud
Jun 13, 2013, 4:55 PM
LMAO do you really think that wikipedia is some source of actual factual information? Anyone can create a wikipedia page on just about anything and write completely false and biased information masquerading as factual or truthful information on it. None of the other sites you listed actually contain factual or truthful information as they're blogs, opinion pieces, and essays based on opinion.

^^^^^
OT but apparently helpful.....


Culito,

RE: Wikipedia, I think that tens of millions of people use Wikipedia every day to learn something new or share new insights. This includes many professionals and others in responsible positions who are trying to understand things they don't already know. It's called learning.

Yes, I know that it is possible for a 'bad actor' to create a BS Wiki entry, which is why there's much more to using Wikipedia than simply swallowing the wiki entry.

IMO, and to the credit of the millions of people around the world who use Wikipedia every day (not all of whom are idiots... ahem!); the best thing about Wikipedia is that you can go to the bottom of a (proper!) Wikipage and find a section-full of "References". Many of the references also include hyperlinks, and you can hover your mouse over them and see where they link-to.

So, not only can one read (or 'swallow') what is written in the Wiki; but you can also refer to the References and see who is backing-up those facts/details/histories and other information, in order to arrive at a better understanding of the issue you are researching. In my experience, Wikipedia is an excellent resource precisely because it doesn't stop there. (duh!)

WRT the post I made above giving reference to a specific Wikipedia page (which I'm guessing you don't really think I created during the dozen intervening minutes between my posts above); the references include...


The International Journal of Sport and Health Science
The Encyclopedia of Childhood and Adolescence
The Journal of Religious Thought
The Canadian Medical Association Journal
The Journal of Heredity
The Journal of Experimental Education
Journal of Experimental Pediatrics
Canadian Journal of Psychology
Journal of Neuroscience
Laterality
Cortex
Brain and Cognition


All of the above scholarly publications are well-regarded and are subscribed-to by credentialled professionals all around the world. These (generally smart) people spend hundreds or thousands of dollars a year to receive these publications, and many of them work overtime, much of it unpaid, in order to get published in them. It is the weight of this body of work, along with other references that include University research papers, or theses, and other articles in the press; that gives a Wikipage it's 'heft', such that it is (considering that Wikipedia was never meant to be a "source-document"....... duh!).

But, that intellectual legitimacy is not what I was refering to when I made that first post I made in this thread. Rather, I was writing from my own personal experience and the experiences as relayed to me by people I know personally, including blood relatives of mine. To the best of my knowledge, none of the people I actually know have writen or published about their personal experiences of discrimination, prejudice and abuse for being left-handed, but that doesn't diminish the veracity of their life experience. I can accept what they've told me as their truth, because I'm not an asshole.


Now, please, let's just stick to the topic of "Back-handed Compliments", because despite what you've written, I'm sure you're probably a very good reader!

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Jun 14, 2013, 1:33 AM
LOL TY Bug, but in my neck of the world a left-handed compliment isnt meant to be mean but Sounds like a slight. It has nothing to do with left-handed people, Hon..:} But ty for your thoughts.
And Tenni-Dumpling, this idjet has about as much class a school on Sunday, so I dont pay him any mind. And I can tell you that if a person is going to keep changing his handle from one day to the next he/she/it Really ought to pay more attention to their wording, and way that they write, and make phrase. You can tell its the same person over and over again..LOL Its so laughable. Said Idjet is better'n HBO...:}
Cat

Plumhead2
Jun 14, 2013, 10:02 AM
Mashing genitals together is sex. But lovemaking is about the art of pleasuring and being pleasured by a vibrant, loving person. That person can inhabit all kinds and shapes of bodies. My most memorable lover was a parapalegic. She could turn me on just by looking at me. A wonderful person makes all parts of his/her body beautiful. Cat's beauty even comes out in the words she posts on this forum.

darkeyes
Jun 14, 2013, 10:36 AM
LOL TY Bug, but in my neck of the world a left-handed compliment isnt meant to be mean but Sounds like a slight. It has nothing to do with left-handed people, Hon..:} But ty for your thoughts.
And Tenni-Dumpling, this idjet has about as much class a school on Sunday, so I dont pay him any mind. And I can tell you that if a person is going to keep changing his handle from one day to the next he/she/it Really ought to pay more attention to their wording, and way that they write, and make phrase. You can tell its the same person over and over again..LOL Its so laughable. Said Idjet is better'n HBO...:}
CatBoth expressions mean the same thing, Cat me luffly... damned by faint praise.. they can be used jocularly or as an insult.. the left handed remark is still used here but rarely and mainly by ole fogies.. not, me darlin', that I wud dream of referring 2 u as such:kiss:... perish the thought:eek2:..I read wile studying that it wos US in orgin but it seems to have been in use here b4 the US wos established as a state but it may have been brought over by merchants, seamen or returning colonists.. that it is likely to have its origin in the Christian animosity to left handed people as being untrustworthy and even in league with the devil is likely... but backhanded is the more common expression here and always has been... hereendeth the lesson..

..as for the dimwits (dimwit??) who assail thee, dear heart.. glad u pay them no heed... they r gud for a laff an hav brains (brain??) of a pea.. and that me luffly is giving them overdue credit.. :cutelaugh.. so Drugbore is cooling off hey? Look forward 2 his next incarnation:impleased..

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Jun 14, 2013, 3:10 PM
Ty Darlings. I'm surprised that Drugstore said any thing. He normally doesnt insult or harrass me. He must have got caught up in the feeding frenzy of the Trolls nad got excited...lol
Ah well. Even Bambi had ememies..lol
Cat
(Quick goose to Fran when she's not lookin') Big kisses to Shoots...

Annika L
Jun 14, 2013, 9:07 PM
Ty Darlings. I'm surprised that Drugstore said any thing. He normally doesnt insult or harrass me. He must have got caught up in the feeding frenzy of the Trolls nad got excited...lol


I suspect he just got confused about which logon he was using.

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Jun 15, 2013, 12:27 AM
Big smootches to Plum..as always. :} Annika, I would have liked to have Seen what DSC said, or the others, too. But I'm glad Drew got to them before I did...lol Had this happened a few months ago when my world was blackest....it t'would not have been pretty for them. But now that my heart is whole again, I find people like them laughable, and pity them, for their hearts and minds arent right with the world. Sad, actually.
Now on with the partying! lol
Cat
Yer Cat

darkeyes
Jun 15, 2013, 4:17 AM
I suspect he just got confused about which logon he was using.:cutelaugh

darkeyes
Jun 15, 2013, 2:24 PM
Welcome back, dimwit..I like the phoney and insecure:).. coming out of the brain dead, that's rich..

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Jun 15, 2013, 2:37 PM
Yep. You can definitely tell that school is out for the summer. He is back in a different skin, but using the same, tired, old, ineffective words that the other persona used. No imagination, and no effect what so ever. Like I told you privately, ass wipe..Grow the hell up. Trot back to the mall, and the sand box, and let the grown up discuss grown up matters in peace. :}
Cat

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Jun 15, 2013, 3:02 PM
LOL Like I said, back to the sand box with you. What adult male says Yuck and Fugly now days? LOL

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Jun 15, 2013, 3:27 PM
Like I said Little Boy, go check your BiSex mail. And have a nice day...:}
Cat, unphased by ignorance.

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Jun 15, 2013, 6:16 PM
LOL Like I said..You can dish it out, but you cant take it when someone gets in your face about something. Bully's are like that tho. All talk and no real guts. But thats ok. You'll get banned again like all of the other times before.
So long loser.
Smiling Cat

Annika L
Jun 15, 2013, 9:26 PM
:rolleyes: Bullying is the new AIDS! OMGWTFBBQ! I'm not "bullying" anyone just telling the truth about people. You're the only bully here since you are into stalking and harassing people on this site and in person in real lie. Also you're nothing like you portray yourself on here in real life so you're the actual loser. Kiss my ass, oh wait you'd enjoy it too much. ;)

Oh! Oh! Oh! *gasp, weep* I thought *I* was the only bully here!? You fickle soul! Found another woman and just decided to pitch me to the side, eh? *cries in her beer*

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Jun 15, 2013, 11:55 PM
No No Sweet Baby. I didnt leave you for an Idjet. Dry yer eyes, and order up another cold beer. *Smootches yer cheek* We can be bullies toGether if you like. I mean, if we're are going to be Accused of it, we might as well Do it. My question is: How can said Troll know if I was harrassing or bullying if'n he didnt read my reply to the email he sent me..He must be Phisic (Fizzick) lol
Cat