Homo Haters Probably Homos Themselves

[fredtyg]

It's been brought up here before and I've always believed that many of those who are the loudest in condemning homosexuals might well be homo themselves. There's a recent study that supports that claim:
http://www.goddiscussion.com/107072/homophobia-may-be-indication-of-homosexuality/

This is too funny. I've related here before about my best friend of a few years ago who constantly berated homosexuals. I always wondered about that and figured he was trying to prove his masculinity to everyone else and HIMSELF.

One day we were sitting in my back yard and he'd just gone through a short anti- homo diatribe. He stopped suddenly, got quiet and then said, "You know, they say those who run down homos the most are often homo themselves". I replied, "Yep. That's what they say", and left it at that.

He since moved and a few months ago I found him on Facebook. We both regularly check each other FB updates. I "Liked" the article I just posted here so it shows up on my FB page. Be interesting to see if he comments on it.

[fredtyg]

[QUOTE=Szeppelin;245448 Even you using the word "homo" instead of homosexual makes you suspect then.[/QUOTE]

Ahhh...more from the politically correct crowd. I never bow to political correctness and often refer to myself as homo, fag or queer.

[tenni]

Fred
I can not say that I agree with your choice of words either but I get your point. I have read some of your previous posts and accept and understand why you may chose homo as a preferred word.

"implicit bias and explicit sexual orientation statements' can possibly explain some of the behavior exhibited by those who bully homosexuals or engage in hate crimes" This is what the article wording was. Neither your terms nor the article term deals with biphobia though do they? These people are probably not distinguishing between bullying a homosexual or a bisexual..if they know the bisexual is not straight. It states that it can explain some of the behaviour ..not all the behaviour.

The article also states "The report also states that homophobia may also result from parents who are authoritarian and homophobic themselves.

What I have frequently found interesting is that when one of these homophobe/biphobes is revealed to be involved in homosexual behaviour , media immediately identify them as "gay" even if the guy is married professing love for his wife. The media automatically ignores that they guy is more than not bisexual.

Still, interesting article. Too bad that it didn't give the issue that Scientific American had the original article in..or the academic journal. Thanks for posting this.

[fredtyg]

Tenni wrote, "Too bad that it didn't give the issue that Scientific American had the original article in...".

Did you miss the link to the Scientific American article, or was that not what you were looking for?
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=homophobes-might-be-hidden-homosexuals

Unfortunately, the link used for "new research" they use just goes to a Calpella University advertisement.

[fredtyg]

Freddy? Do all of us need to resort to some poll, or research, before we come to our own natural conclusions? It has been my long experience, that such people, generally speaking, don't hold a personal opinion, but rather like sheep.....................

It's an article and subject that may be of interest to some people in this group so I posted it here.

As far as "do we all need to resort to a poll...", you could argue that much of the discussion here is polling of sorts. People ask questions and post opinions asking for feedback from others. Strange you don't understand that.

[fredtyg]

What is strange? What would be strange if I looked at any poll here, and then acted on, even a slight majority polled for. Again............sheep.

Even stranger, then, that you're even a member here. Most seem to enjoy hearing other opinions and discussing things. You seem to think you have everything all figured out and don't need to hear other opinions. Why are you here?

[BiDaveDtown]

Why should anyone take the opinion of a total closeted queen or gay man in a marriage of convenience like Fred seriously, especially when it comes to closeted homophobes which he is?

[12voltman59]

I have long thought this to be the case---especially after people like Jimmy Swaggart, who for so long rallied against the evils of pornography, fornication, adultery, prostitution and such was found to be frequenting prostitutes, was addicted to pornography and such---then there was that other fundamentalist preacher who long rallied against homosexuality and gays, then it came out that he was having sex with male prostitutes.

It always does get me too, that you will have some "straight dude" who seems to be "getting all kinds of tail" is the kind who always makes "fag jokes" and always says disparaging things about "queers"----it always struck me and I always wanted to ask them: "Dude--since you are such a straight stud, apparently fucking more and hotter pussy than the next ten men combined---why in God's name are you even concerned about what "the faggots" are doing?"

I really think that with those guys who are like that, you have to wonder about "he who protesteth too much!"

I really do bet that with such guys----when they lay their heads down on the pillow at night and shut their eyes--their minds begin to run through all the ways that they want to be fucked by other guys, their dicks get hard and they have one major spurting orgasm as a result!! :yikes2: To such guys---they just cannot admit to themselves that "Fuck---maybe I am a damn queer!!" (of course--they buy into the dictates of the cultural keepers of the gates for both the hetero and gay worlds--that if a man has sex with another man--he is gay and that is that---bisexuality of course--at least for males--doesn't really exist, don't you know?)

So---they are concerned with what the gays are doing ---afraid that maybe they might someday be offered to do something with one and holy shit, batman-- in a moment of weakness, lust and horniness, they just might take up the guy's offer---so---they go around being homophobic in some fashion to "ward off those demons"---hopefully--their homophobia only manifests with them making "fag jokes" and other disparaging remarks about gays, Bis, lesbians, trans, etc---or a bit worse-- they join the Republican Party here in the states or ones like it in other places--and work to make life difficult for "the perverts" in any way possible--and finally--the worst ones----get so angry at "homos" that in some fit of rage--they go out one night and seriously injure or kill someone they either know or think is gay.

That there are actually provable indications that such internalized homophobia exists with such people and manifests in the way that is discussed in the article--is no surprise to me. This is only one study and it needs to be replicated and built upon before it can be said to be verified---but I bet that over time---there will be further studies that indicate and find the same thing as this study has.

[tenni]

Good points Voltie

If these guys are homophobic and really trying to hide their same sex desires, I have to also wonder about so called "out" posters protest about other bisexuals who are "not like them" and "out"? Might these attacks and demands that all bisexuals or as they called the OP a "queen" really be an attempt to disguise their own ugly inner turmoil? Do these posters protest too much about demanding that all bisexuals be just like them a bit too much?

[mattsbutt]

Yes, well said Voltman!

Tenni, you have some good questions. I think it's just that people want to rally up support for their kind. They want to guilt you into joining their group and will lash out at you for not seeing their point of view. There's more power in numbers and so maybe they feel the need to recruit members into their group (whatever it is). Unfortunately, that method ends up dividing us.

There are powerful political and religious groups constantly fighting to take away our freedom and rallying support by using hate and other scare tactics. For example, look at all the money and effort the republicans, churches, and chic-fil-a put into fighting against gay marriage. They use hate to rally support by saying things like "homosexuality is an abomination" and playing on Men's fears of being supportive of anything "gay" for fear of being labeled as such. Some even go as far as to use the climate change and other worldly disasters as an example of God's fury over these matters....which conjures up even more hate and support for their own selfish purposes.

Can't we all just get along? :) PEACE :flag3:

[guywholikesboth]

Growing up i was branded a cocksucker had a bunch of guys who bullied me when they were in a group. if i was alone withsome of them they want blowjobs and some even did me saying they just wanted to try it but they always wanted to do it more than once to me.

[Mr. Suck]

I really do bet that with such guys----when they lay their heads down on the pillow at night and shut their eyes--their minds begin to run through all the ways that they want to be fucked by other guys, their dicks get hard and they have one major spurting orgasm as a result!! :yikes2: To such guys---they just cannot admit to themselves that "Fuck---maybe I am a damn queer!!" (of course--they buy into the dictates of the cultural keepers of the gates for both the hetero and gay worlds--that if a man has sex with another man--he is gay and that is that---bisexuality of course--at least for males--doesn't really exist, don't you know?) Ummm who says that if you have sex with a person of the same gender even if you're a man that it makes you "gay"? People have known about bisexuality for a very long time and it's not as though it's an unknown term or a relatively new term for someone's sexuality. Both heterosexuals and gay/lesbian people know about bisexuality. Some of those guys could be closeted but some are just heterosexual and have had bad experiences with overly aggressive gay men who couldn't take no for an answer, and others are heterosexual but can't comprehend how a man could be gay and simply not sexually attracted to women at all and the concept is just totally alien to them. Just because you personally are into getting fucked up the ass and may have finally accepted your bisexuality but are not out at all about being bisexual-probably while being homophobic in your youth-it does not mean that everyone that's bisexual or gay is going to be this way or want to get fucked.

[zigzig]

This article remind me of a scientific research made on homophobes. They watched gay porn, and 80% of them got an erection.

[whispering]

I don't mind if a closeted man wants to rant, but unfortunately, some closeted gay and bi-men are politically active in promoting an anti-LGBT legislation. There is an excellent film about legislators who are closeted gay man with staunchly anti-LGBT voting records. Called "Outrage", it's by an academy-award winning director, Kirby Dick, and you can find it on Netflix.


http://youtu.be/NaTsmXaw5NQ