Who gives it up easier, men or women?

[Apleasureseeker]

Maybe it's cause I'm mostly straight, it took me a long time to accept the bisexual side of my sexuality. And a lot of other guys I've met who are bisexual or bi-curious seem to go through the same sequence of gradually evolving: noticing but not consciously being aware, then being curious but ashamed, alternating being turned on and in denial, accepting just a little (enjoying looking at men fucking in videos or their cocks in pix, but not thinking about the whole guy), and so forth, in a kind of back and forth "yes, I am, no, I'm not" kind of swing. And it extends to the sex, too. Maybe youthful experiences are filed away as silly experiments, or we enter into a bisexual connection and as soon as the sperm leaves the cocks, we're straight again (Guys, am I right?).

But most of the bi girls I've known, or straight or lez gals who've had bi experiences, (except for forced experiences), don't seem to have gone through that kind of identity turmoil. If they're comfortably gay or straight, and they chose to explore with a different gendered partner that they usually do, they seem to be much more comfortable with it, and accepting of it, like discovering a new musical ability or something.

What do you guys think?

[silentboxer]

What you have to consider is how society looks at the terms of sexuality. With women, they're free to explore more of their sexuality because most Rap videos, or publics shows denote that it's ok for women to explore that part of themselves. However, when it comes to males, anything besides heterosexualness means that we're less than men, so men are hesitant in trying new things. Even for myself I feel that bottoming will make me less than a man, so it's these weights that society puts on us.

I hope that helps.

[tenni]

When I read the title of this thread, I thought the OP was asking whether men or women were easier to have sex with.:):love87:

When is the last time that you heard someone shout as if an insult at a woman "You Pussy licker" "You muff diver"?

When is the last time that you heard someone shout at a man as an insult "You cocksucker"?

There is the prejudice towards bi men or gay men...usually from hetero men but not always.

Men who decide to be a cock sucker or fudge packer/packee need to resolve the slurs and bigotry in society against such acts.

PS I just said "it" in my car as I tried to make a left turn at a stoplight...."cocksucker" to a person who drove through the light as it changed to red...lol ( I didn't even know if it was a man or woman..suspect a guy though)

[Gearbox]

Maybe youthful experiences are filed away as silly experiments, or we enter into a bisexual connection and as soon as the sperm leaves the cocks, we're straight again (Guys, am I right?).
You describe a fuckbud of mine very well. For ages he has only let me rim him, NEVER touched my cock or any part of me. But when I'm doing that, he's the most dirtiest pornstyle talker in the world.lol Right untill his cum leaves his donkey cock. Then it's like watching a Dr Jekyl scamper away in self disgust.
Last time he let me fuck him, for a whole 5mins before he freaked out. It was well worth it though! The man is a living God!:tongue:

I've tried my best to make him feel comfortable, and not in any way wierd. His 'porn talk' is all about how filthy it all is, and I think that's what turns him on. But after many meets he still has that fear of himself. He just can't balance it out in his head, and I can only guess that he exscuses his attraction for men with a 'dirty kink'.
IMO it's a terrible state to be in. It reminds me of bulemia in a way.

So what advice would YOU give to make you feel comfortable with your sexuality?

[lsufan1974]

Bi guys face more of a social judgement than bi girls, but in all fairness if a guy is active he is "the man" and unfortunately an active female is not regarded in the same favor!
I can't think of a straight or bi guy I know who isn't incredibly appreciative of a bi / lesbian woman!

In fact I wish I coul find a couple with strapons right now!

[DiamondDog]

I would not say that either men or women give up their former sexual orientation identities any "easier".

For a lot of bisexual men we identify as gay first and then later learn that we are bisexual. Many bisexual women identify as lesbian fist but then later discover that they are bisexual.

As a young teenager at 14 or 15 I identified as gay and came out as gay before I realized that I'm bisexual a year later.

I've met women who are bisexual and who later came out as bisexual but at the time they were not sure of their sexuality, and they still identified as lesbian or straight.

Fuck society. The only pressures on yourself for not exploring your sexuality are ones that you yourself put on. Just because you're a man that does not mean that you can't explore your sexuality that's not heterosexual. Men are just as free as women are to do this. Also there are homophobic and biphobic people who don't like lesbians or bisexual women, or they will say the tired excuse of "I'm cool with lesbian/Bi women as long as they're hot and I get to watch/join in!" :rolleyes:

Everyone is on their own path and self acceptance happens at different times for different people but whenever the time is right for that person if it happens at all.

[Apleasureseeker]

I was hoping that women, particularly, would reply to this thread. I might not have been clear... I was more interested in what is going on inside the mind and heart of the newbie bi-gal vs. bi guy. There's no question that there's an external pressure on men to be arrow-straight, while its allowable for women to swing. I even know bisexual women who don't approve of bisexual men!
Now, for big uys who started out feeling more gay, they might already be on the "sexual outlaw" side of things and so opening up to bisex might not be such an issue. But I'm coming from the hetero-side. Sure, a part of my feelings are based on the pressure of what people will think, but most of it is how I see and feel about myself.

A dominatrix friend once said that girls go through a bi period when they're young, and guys go through their bi period when they reach their 30s.

But I'm low on the Bi-scale (incidentally bisexual). I am comfortable that I have a sexual response to men in certain sexual situations, but never romantic ones. But for a long time I oscillated back and forth. And most of the guys I've fooled around with are in the same boat, with lots of inner conflict and confusion. But most of them women, whether they're proudly, loudly bisexual or just college dabblers, seem to have accepted the experience with the nonchalance of accepting a danish at a breakfast buffet. Is there that inner confusion, or is it really different for girls?

[Apleasureseeker]

So what advice would YOU give to make you feel comfortable with your sexuality?

Well, at this point I'm pretty comfortable with it. Other bisexuals seem to have more of a problem, acusing me of being in denial or repressing my feelings, but in fact this IS my whole sexuality. I engage physically and emotionally/romantically with women, but with men it's purely physical, and even then, pretty limited, though there are a lot of guts in a similar boat.

[Gearbox]

Well, at this point I'm pretty comfortable with it. Other bisexuals seem to have more of a problem, acusing me of being in denial or repressing my feelings, but in fact this IS my whole sexuality. I engage physically and emotionally/romantically with women, but with men it's purely physical, and even then, pretty limited, though there are a lot of guts in a similar boat.
It's the 'turning hetero after cumming' that's responsible for that. You can't blame anybody thinking that's some kind of denial.
Many people completely lose interest in sex after cumming and don't look upon the person they just had a great time with in the same way. Just like we turn the porn film off when it's done it's job.lol But they don't identify with that temporary state of asexuality as a part of their whole sexuality.

After sex with a female, not many men will think themselves gay or asexual now that scratch has been itched. There is no conflict nor reason to proscess what just happened in regards to their sexualty. For a bloke, sex with a female can ony be a 'good thing'. Society is ok with that. It's a 'no brainer'.
BUT having sex with your own gender isn't quite so simple. That can spark off questions and self evaluations that take much more thought than the other kind. It's not as ok, nor incidental to how we view ourselves or how we think society will view us.

I'm NOT putting anybody down btw! Even us lovely bi males who are 100% comfy with ourselves will not go into work and join in the chit chat of 'who we fucked last night' if it was a bloke.:tongue: It's us that add to the fiction of society, and are all to blame for it's taboos.

[darkeyes]

Even us lovely bi males who are 100% comfy with ourselves will not go into work and join in the chit chat of 'who we fucked last night' if it was a bloke.:tongue: Me c's.... just as well we didn't share that downie then if all yas gonna do is blab 'bout it 2 ya m8s at work or college...;) Likes Vick, Germoline, peelin scabs and now a blab.. *sigh*..and I thot u wer the 1 2 turn me back 2 the lite...:(

[tenni]

Me c's.... just as well we didn't share that downie then if all yas gonna do is blab 'bout it 2 ya m8s at work or college...;) Likes Vick, Germoline, peelin scabs and now a blab.. *sigh*..and I thot u wer the 1 2 turn me back 2 the lite...:(

pffft....That's what you say now. Ten or so years ago in your Bonobo Days it was a different story from what you post...lol :bounce::grouphug:

[darkeyes]

pffft....That's what you say now. Ten or so years ago in your Bonobo Days it was a different story from what you post...lol :bounce::grouphug:
10 years ago I was married (to 1 of u lot) and monogamous and lived ver heterosexually... but I know wotya mean... ther wos a time I wos sweetness and lite 2 many of both genders... and very nice it wos too if I may say so.. but we change.. for better or worse... I think for better.. but everyone has their own view on such things... so pffft back atya ratbag...:impleased U just wait till Kate publishes me journals after I pop me clogs.... heap many palefaces in this town then I can tellya *laffs*

[tenni]

10 years ago I was married (to 1 of u lot) and monogamous and lived ver heterosexually... but I know wotya mean... ther wos a time I wos sweetness and lite 2 many of both genders... and very nice it wos too if I may say so.. but we change.. for better or worse... I think for better.. but everyone has their own view on such things... so pffft back atya ratbag...:impleased U just wait till Kate publishes me journals after I pop me clogs.... heap many palefaces in this town then I can tellya *laffs*

Oh...time does fly for us Bonobos...lol:impleased We lose track of time but not who we k noodled with..... I hope to live long enough to read your bio..;)

[darkeyes]

Oh...time does fly for us Bonobos...lol:impleased We lose track of time but not who we k noodled with..... I hope to live long enough to read your bio..;) Lost track of large numbers I canoodled wiv.. need me journals 2 remind me of just wtf some of them r or even that they wer *laffs*... Kate threatens 2 burn them if I go 1st.. worra cow... mind u.. she is in ther big style as u wud expect... several of the early entries lil less flattering than she wud like... so mayb she wud just rip out those pages... and she is seriously concerned wot the kids will make of it all.. by then they will b women of the world and grown up and doubt they will think 2 much of it... if they have haff as good a time as me in ther lil lives owt I wrote in me journals will sound tame cos doin' is always infinitely bettern readin' or watchin'.. unless of course ya r 1 of me victims and wud rather it never saw lite of day,, wiv luck I'm wrong 'bout no afterlife..wud dearly luff 2 sit on me cloud wiv me harp watchin' ther faces as it slowly dawns on them who I am referrin' 2.....:impleased Tho most likely it's downstairs for me so hope they have some kinda telly for viewin' the world and its goings on....That's assumin they haven't popped ther clogs an' all by then....;)

[Gearbox]

Me c's.... just as well we didn't share that downie then if all yas gonna do is blab 'bout it 2 ya m8s at work or college...;) Likes Vick, Germoline, peelin scabs and now a blab.. *sigh*..and I thot u wer the 1 2 turn me back 2 the lite...:(
Well I don't peel my germolene soaked scabs during sex yu know?:tongue: And I speak nothing of sex in college with all those youngsters around. Jimmy Saville saw to that, the feker!:yikes2:
If I were to say I'm a bi, somebody would prob ring the fire alarm and evacuate the place before I attempt to shag everybody there.lol It would be chaos!
Well there's at least one bloke working in the library and a woman who works in the canteen that might not run too fast.lol
But as for turning you back to the light, I just couldn't risk all those females hunting me down and doing a 'John Bobbit' on me. You know they would!:eek2:

[darkeyes]

But as for turning you back to the light, I just couldn't risk all those females hunting me down and doing a 'John Bobbit' on me. You know they would!:eek2:
I know 1 who wud.. *laffs*;)

[tenni]

I know 1 who wud.. *laffs*;)

Put the knife down darkeyes. Step away and no one will get hurt ;)


Oh, this just in.... a better Franspeak/English translation. Never mind. Its that other woman. :)

[DiamondDog]

I was hoping that women, particularly, would reply to this thread. I might not have been clear... I was more interested in what is going on inside the mind and heart of the newbie bi-gal vs. bi guy. There's no question that there's an external pressure on men to be arrow-straight, while its allowable for women to swing. I even know bisexual women who don't approve of bisexual men! Now, for big uys who started out feeling more gay, they might already be on the "sexual outlaw" side of things and so opening up to bisex might not be such an issue. But I'm coming from the hetero-side. Sure, a part of my feelings are based on the pressure of what people will think, but most of it is how I see and feel about myself. A dominatrix friend once said that girls go through a bi period when they're young, and guys go through their bi period when they reach their 30s. But I'm low on the Bi-scale (incidentally bisexual). I am comfortable that I have a sexual response to men in certain sexual situations, but never romantic ones. But for a long time I oscillated back and forth. And most of the guys I've fooled around with are in the same boat, with lots of inner conflict and confusion. But most of them women, whether they're proudly, loudly bisexual or just college dabblers, seem to have accepted the experience with the nonchalance of accepting a danish at a breakfast buffet. Is there that inner confusion, or is it really different for girls?

I'm not sure what you mean by "sexual outlaw" and identifying as a gay or bisexual man?

Being bisexual or gay is not illegal and in the Western world it's not like it is in parts of the Middle East, in Russia, China, SE Asian countries, and in parts of the Caribbean where if you are bisexual or gay you really are a second class citizen, face major prison time, and you also face execution.

I grew up with gay men as very close friends of myself and my family so there was not anything "Forbidden" about having sex with the same gender and the idea that it's somehow a "taboo" is not something that entered into my mind either.

Your dominatrix friend is incorrect. There is no set age or age range for a woman or man to accept their bisexuality since it's different for every person. Some men like myself accept it when we're young and teenagers and I've met some women who accepted it when they were in their 30s.

I know other bisexual men and women who accepted themselves when they were a lot older but that was the right time for them.

Just because a bisexual woman or man first identifies as heterosexual that does not mean that they're going to have difficulty accepting that they're bisexual. I know men who identified as heterosexual for decades and then they realized that they're actually bisexual and they are fine with it.

I'm not sure why you think that being low on the Kinsey scale/Klein grid somehow makes you less bisexual? You're no less bisexual than people who are equally attracted to men and women like myself and who can fall in love with both genders and all genders.

[ashes2ashes]

I was hoping that women, particularly, would reply to this thread. I might not have been clear... I was more interested in what is going on inside the mind and heart of the newbie bi-gal vs. bi guy. There's no question that there's an external pressure on men to be arrow-straight, while its allowable for women to swing. I even know bisexual women who don't approve of bisexual men!
Now, for big uys who started out feeling more gay, they might already be on the "sexual outlaw" side of things and so opening up to bisex might not be such an issue. But I'm coming from the hetero-side. Sure, a part of my feelings are based on the pressure of what people will think, but most of it is how I see and feel about myself.

A dominatrix friend once said that girls go through a bi period when they're young, and guys go through their bi period when they reach their 30s.

But I'm low on the Bi-scale (incidentally bisexual). I am comfortable that I have a sexual response to men in certain sexual situations, but never romantic ones. But for a long time I oscillated back and forth. And most of the guys I've fooled around with are in the same boat, with lots of inner conflict and confusion. But most of them women, whether they're proudly, loudly bisexual or just college dabblers, seem to have accepted the experience with the nonchalance of accepting a danish at a breakfast buffet. Is there that inner confusion, or is it really different for girls?


I think how people deal with it is largely situational. I have a very Catholic upbringing - went to a Catholic school, most of my family and friends are Catholic. But in saying that my immediate family has never been very religious. We don't go to church every week and after awhile my parents didn't force me to go to Sunday school.
But I was taught homosexuality is a sin in school and so for a long time, even though I was the kid that mucked around in religion class and have always thought that a lot of the bible is full of BS rules, it still kinda in a way makes me feel guilty when I have same sex attractions. I've read of other bi and gay people saying that after awhile you realize that it shouldn't be viewed as a sin and I agree but yeah I still feel bad deep down and try to repress it. I think it also has to do with all my close friends being straight, catholic and in heterosexual long term relationships. They seem to have everything sorted out for them and going to plan meanwhile i'm still confused and don't want to enter a relationship if i'm like this or a relationship where I can't explore my bi side.

I have accepted I have same sex attractions but I am not out to my friends as bisexual because of the reasons stated above. I do agree that the mentality that bi men have in accepting themselves is different than how bi women get around accepting ourselves due to the fact that society views homosexuality as making someone 'less of a man'.
So I've never ever thought that being bi has made me 'less of a woman' and I don't think society views it that way, instead they view it as hot and sexy which is good I guess but unfortunately that also means that people think bi women are slutty, attention-seeking, always up for threesomes (a threesome is a fantasy of mine but a lot of straight guys i've met and come out to just assume i'm down for it cause i'm bi ). So relationship wise, after reading posts on this forum, straight women don't want to date bi guys out of fear that they are gay, whereas straight men are happy to date bi girls but in general for short term only, or for threesome purposes. There are straight guys who don't view bi women as LT material etc. Which sucks for me cause i'm not a girl who wants short term flings and i'm not into one night stands.

I think i've gone off on some tangent and am just ranting out of frustration now lol but I guess I still kinda wish I was 100% straight at times simply because then I wouldn't have to deal with all these preconceptions that straight and gay people have of me. (But then I see a hot guy and hot girl and am happy i'm able to find both sexy)

[Apleasureseeker]

I'm not sure what you mean by "sexual outlaw" and identifying as a gay or bisexual man?
.

I'm not talking about legal rights. In just about any part of the world, Hetero-sex in the missionary position with the lights off between two people of the same race is the norm. The farther you deviate from that the more you're off the beaten track. Gay and bi are pretty far "out there" in many parts of the world. Devations make you a kind of outlaw, or at least outsider.

I know plenty of people who've gone through a gay/bi phase not so much for the sexuality, but because of the outsider status. Some always felt like outsiders and just assumed that the alternative to hetero was part of the package, then later decided it wasn't. Some, like those girls who make out with each other in bars just to attract men, only want the outlaw flair.




I'm not sure why you think that being low on the Kinsey scale/Klein grid somehow makes you less bisexual? You're no less bisexual than people who are equally attracted to men and women like myself and who can fall in love with both genders and all genders.

Well, that's your perspective on it, and there are a lot of different perspectives. The Kinsey scale runs from totally straight to totally gay. Plenty of gays insist bisexuality doesn't exist, bi's are just in denial. Some people feel everybody is bi, and straights and gays are just inhibited. Personally, I think everyone is a little bit of each to their own degrees, and that one's sexuality has less to do with what kind of sex they have and who they have it with than who they can bond with emotionally and romantically.

I know there are plenty of men and women who can enjoy sex with both genders, and do, but emotionally are drawn to one sex or another. Sex and emotion aren't always synonymous.

[Apleasureseeker]

I think i've gone off on some tangent and am just ranting out of frustration now lol but I guess I still kinda wish I was 100% straight at times simply because then I wouldn't have to deal with all these preconceptions that straight and gay people have of me. (But then I see a hot guy and hot girl and am happy i'm able to find both sexy)

Thanks Ashes!
I'm looking at the question of what the outside world thinks as a separate issue from what goes on inside. Certainly, there are all kinds of social pressures and opinions that one has to deal with.

I know that my sexual preference changes at different times. When I first started thinking bisexually, it was something that would come and go. Other guys I've spoken to are clearly going thought that kind of thing, feeling they're bi curious, but then thinking "no, I was wrong," and then having the feeling come back again. In between you ask yourself "what was I thinking?" All of this is a separate thing from the opinions of outsiders. It's only their own feelings.

The bi women I know have never told me about experiencing this kind of internal flip-flopping, so I was wondering if they also experienced it.

[DiamondDog]

I know there are plenty of men and women who can enjoy sex with both genders, and do, but emotionally are drawn to one sex or another. Sex and emotion aren't always synonymous. No they're not; but these people are bisexual since they're sexually attracted to both genders. Getting back to your original post yes bisexual and lesbian women can have turmoil or confusion when it comes to understanding or accepting their sexuality.

[ashes2ashes]

Thanks Ashes!
I'm looking at the question of what the outside world thinks as a separate issue from what goes on inside. Certainly, there are all kinds of social pressures and opinions that one has to deal with.

I know that my sexual preference changes at different times. When I first started thinking bisexually, it was something that would come and go. Other guys I've spoken to are clearly going thought that kind of thing, feeling they're bi curious, but then thinking "no, I was wrong," and then having the feeling come back again. In between you ask yourself "what was I thinking?" All of this is a separate thing from the opinions of outsiders. It's only their own feelings.

The bi women I know have never told me about experiencing this kind of internal flip-flopping, so I was wondering if they also experienced it.


Well what I was trying to say was, and I probably didn't word myself well, was that for me I don't think its a separate thing. I think if I could care less about what people thought about me being bisexual that I would be able to not wish I was 100% straight sometimes and fully accept myself.

I'm not sure if now you're talking about accepting your bi side or the so called 'bi swings'. I have spoken to one other bi chick who does get those and I think again for me its because of these opinions of outsiders. I don't think my sexuality would swing at all if I 100% accepted myself and cared less about others opinions.
But from other people's situations it seems like those swings in preference kind of disappear once you're more comfortable with yourself. I think that eventually bisexuals are able to specify their attractions like after awhile one could be certain that they're bi leaning straight or bi leaning gay or 50/50.

[Rose2Me]

I did go through many of the same stages outlined in the original, but CDing took the edge off. I am comfortable being with a guy because as Rose, I am a woman (in my mind), so the act is much more natural and guilt-free.

[dafydd]

After sex with a female, .

I love how you have worded that G. Kind of.. primal sounding. Sexy man.

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[Apleasureseeker]

No they're not; but these people are bisexual since they're sexually attracted to both genders. Getting back to your original post yes bisexual and lesbian women can have turmoil or confusion when it comes to understanding or accepting their sexuality.

I have to disagree that all bisexuality is the same, and that it's just a matter of accepting it. I had a lesbian friend who did on-line dating looking for casual hookups. What she got was a lot of straight women who just wanted a girl to go down on them to see what it was like. They usually didn't reciprocate and one even said "I'm not gay, I don't do that."

I've also known straight women --lots of them-- who've experiemented. They weren't in denial.

Also guys who went to boys' boarding schools who "experimented" with boys, but they're straight, and mostly family men now.

[DiamondDog]

I have to disagree that all bisexuality is the same, and that it's just a matter of accepting it. I had a lesbian friend who did on-line dating looking for casual hookups. What she got was a lot of straight women who just wanted a girl to go down on them to see what it was like. They usually didn't reciprocate and one even said "I'm not gay, I don't do that."

I've also known straight women --lots of them-- who've experiemented. They weren't in denial.

Also guys who went to boys' boarding schools who "experimented" with boys, but they're straight, and mostly family men now.

I never wrote or claimed that all bisexuality is the same for everyone. It's just that in order to be bisexual and not monosexual (gay/homosexual/a lesbian woman, or straight/heterosexual) you're sexually attracted to both genders or all genders.

Denial is a powerful thing. I've never met anyone that's actually heterosexual who has "experimented" or had sex with the same gender. I have met lots of bisexuals who told me how they once identified as heterosexual and were sexually active with the same gender or both but they didn't know they were bisexual or in some cases they were in denial about their sexuality and at the time did not want to really admit to even themselves that they are not hetero/straight even though it was obvious they are not heterosexual.

Those "straight" women that your lesbian friend encountered online were probably either men pretending to be women, or they were bisexual or lesbian women and in denial about their sexuality. A heterosexual woman is not going to try to get with another woman and get oral sex from a woman when she can easily find a male partner or date or get into a relationship with a man to get oral sex from him.

Reciprocation or not during oral sex has nothing to do if someone's bisexual, or gay/lesbian. There are bisexual men and women, and even gay men and women who don't give oral sex to people of the same gender at all.

[Apleasureseeker]

I never wrote or claimed that all bisexuality is the same for everyone. It's just that in order to be bisexual and not monosexual (gay/homosexual/a lesbian woman, or straight/heterosexual) you're sexually attracted to both genders or all genders.

Denial is a powerful thing. I've never met anyone that's actually heterosexual who has "experimented" or had sex with the same gender. I have met lots of bisexuals who told me how they once identified as heterosexual and were sexually active with the same gender or both but they didn't know they were bisexual or in some cases they were in denial about their sexuality and at the time did not want to really admit to even themselves that they are not hetero/straight even though it was obvious they are not heterosexual..

As I said before, we have different beliefs. I believe it's all fluid, and that labels are inherently inaccurate. The problem is that if you label someone but they don't fit the label, either the label is wrong or they're "in denial."

You might not have met any heteros who've dabbled, but trust me, there's out there. In fact I'd wager nearly everyone has experimented as a kid. It's not even expressing bisexuality, just expressing their new sexual feelings with whoever is around them. A lot of boys mastrubate together, a lot of girls "practice kissing" (which also seems to include grinding or masturbation). Even more if you include kids in single-sex schools, as well as young adults in the military of prison.

So the people you describe as being "in denial" are just not conforming to your view of the issue.

I also think that sexuality is an evolving thing. Some of it is a person's sexual chemistry, some of it might be their life experiences that steer them in a different direction.




Those "straight" women that your lesbian friend encountered online were probably either men pretending to be women, or they were bisexual or lesbian women and in denial about their sexuality. A heterosexual woman is not going to try to get with another woman and get oral sex from a woman when she can easily find a male partner or date or get into a relationship with a man to get oral sex from him.

Reciprocation or not during oral sex has nothing to do if someone's bisexual, or gay/lesbian. There are bisexual men and women, and even gay men and women who don't give oral sex to people of the same gender at all.

Nope, she met them and bedded a fair number of them. It was very frustrating for her at first, then just funny, then she was able to see them coming and just avoid them. They were just along for a walk on the wild side, and they just wanted to be catered to, so they could tell people they tried it with a chick, and seem very wild and knowledgeable. It was a couple of years ago when there was a kind of lesbian chic thing. I heard lesbian bars were even invaded by straight chicks who flirted but never put out.