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GreenSolar
Oct 4, 2012, 10:39 AM
I'm in a pretty confusing place in terms of my sexual identity, so I thought I'd ask for some advice.


In everyday life I identify as heterosexual, and to pre-empt the confusing aspects of me, this isn't out of denial or fear of being gay or bisexual. I literally fawn over women constantly, it's impossible for me to leave my flat without at least one woman catching my eye and me wanting to be with her. Unfortunately I've never been the most social creature, so I never got into the dating game... I have slept with four women, and loved the experience. They were escorts though, so in terms of self-confidence all I've got is one girl who made out with me in a club and an ex I never got very far with.Anyway, despite this I've found myself spending a good deal of time whilst online looking into "feminisation" fantasies. That is, being dressed like a woman, wig and all, either for purposes of being humiliated by women in a femdom style (although generally with everyday girls as opposed to actual dominatrix types) or to get with a guy, generally in the mindset of attractive women having talked me into doing it.

Now, I never find men attractive, speaking romantically and for the most part sexually too. Certain aspects of identifying with the female role and doing the things they do sexually (mostly oral) does turn me on, at least in terms of thinking about it.

Anyway, last night I tried it with an older guy who is associated with the sex industry (it was a mutual meet over the net though, not a paid meeting). The actual sex aspects were enjoyable, but only due to the female role I took on... I did try this sort of thing without any cross dressing a couple of times and found it boring and unpleasant, using female-centric pornography on a laptop to keep me going. However, this time I did really enjoy myself, and it became a full blown one night stand with me sleeping in his bed dressed like a girl. I was convincing too, I think being mistaken for a girl a few times in the past in public has added to this, along with a general anxiety over not being masculine and assertive enough to seduce "real women".

Anyway, so now I'm not sure where I stand. I'd never date a guy because I've never met a guy I found attractive. This guy was good, but as I say, only for this one specific fantasy. He had a female flatmate who is also a sex worker apparently and the thought of that turned me on/intrigued me a lot, a sort of vague hoping she'd wander in, catch me dressed and decide to experiment with me too. Thinking about it, being a "lipstick lesbian" appeals more than being a "sissy", by a great deal as far as this fantasy goes... But even then when I like girls generally, I never think about cross dressing or being feminine with them at all, I'm pretty heteronormative in my attitudes to them. One of the escorts (they were all independent and I researched to ensure they were doing it for the right reasons, btw, and it's legal in my country) even commented that I was quite dominant sexually.

So I guess I'm wondering if I accept this is just one sexual kink I have that is cool to explore safely when I'm young and it's discrete, or... Well, I guess I feel kind of ashamed, like the heterosexual part of me is threatened by this one fantasy, as if if a girl I dated found out she'd lose interest and find me sexually unappealing as a man, or as if by having done this and being really femme during (looking in the mirror during dressing I'd probably be able to pass as a girl completely, definitely not a bearded builder in a wig) I've created a mindset where I'll be too effiminate in real life and the cute girls I ultimately really wish I was with, either for casual dating or something more serious, will just overlook me for the more manly guys in the bar.

I guess I'm also wondering if trying to become more masculine is the answer (working out, growing out my facial hair etc.) or if I can be slightly more androgynous and still successful with women. It worked for Bowie, i guess!

Any advice would be much appreciated.

elian
Oct 4, 2012, 5:29 PM
Are you comfortable being who you are? Are you introverted like I am? It sounds like you enjoyed spending time with a woman both sexually and romantically. You say that you don't find men attractive? Do you view the feminine role you portrayed as a more submissive role (it may not necessarily be so) .. How does that make you feel?

One night stands aren't necessarily bad if you don't have a lot of experience starting out..everyone has to get experience one way or another.

The truth is the only person that you need to make happy in the long term is yourself; if there were no stereotypes and people would love you for who YOU are, how would you live, what would you want? It's much better to decide what you want first, then seek out a friend, partner, companion who is compatible than to try to "make" yourself compatible to please someone else. There is enough variety in the world that it should be possible.

Would making yourself more masculine make you feel better? If you are doing these things to improve your own confidence, health, well being then it is worthwhile, if you are doing them only to impress someone else maybe less so.

I don't know your background, I don't know you personally so I cannot really tell you what to do but having bisexual feelings can certainly be confusing. Just take your time and try to work through it. Regardless of who you love or whatever society says you are still a person worthy of dignity and respect. Human beings love to simplify things as "black and white" but nature is usually more diverse than that..more like many shades of grey.

Gearbox
Oct 4, 2012, 8:00 PM
You maybe just boosting the dominant sexual side that you have, which is your female side. Doesn't have anything to do with your sexuality, but is the side you allow yourself most confidence in.
You just feel more attractive as a female. NOTHING wrong with that or anything to be ashamed of. Most (Maybe?) females prefer masculine men, but not ALL! They are a mixed bag of surprises just like males.lol

You may find that if you do hit the weights and grow some stubble and masc-up etc, that you'll get more attention as a masc and THAT will give you confidence. Your feminisation fetish may fizzle out due to that. It might not. Do you care? Either way, just be happy with what makes you tick.

Salohcin22
Oct 5, 2012, 1:31 AM
yeah, it sounds like you are completely straight with just a weird fetish. One of those people that are only Bi below the belt(not really Bi at all). I believe the fetish is the result of not getting much attention from women and feeling like you aren't very good at being masculine. There are two easy ways to fix this: work out and lift weights a few times a week, or try to appeal to your feminine side if you really want to.

tenni
Oct 5, 2012, 8:10 AM
hmm
I’ve read your post a couple of times. You do seem confused or confusing. I may be completely wrong but here is what I think.


A couple of points though.


1/ You do not have to be romantically attracted to men and still be a bisexual. There are a lot of bisexual men who state that they would not date a man in the romantic emotional scenario but enjoy the sexual physical act with a man.


2/ You post that you enjoyed the actual sex act with the older man. The add on is that you have enjoyed more if playing the submissive role. Add to that you really enjoy sex with a man if you cross dress. The point is that you enjoyed sex with a man while dressed. You do not see yourself enjoying sex with a woman while cross dressing. Did this older man penetrate you or was it oral and stuff?


A point of concern is that it seems that all of your sexual encounters have been with sex trade workers or a man connected to the sex trade. I do have to wonder about that but I’m not sure if that means that you have some issues with relating to people. It may mean that you might benefit from some counselling to try to improve your social interactions. That is just a thought.


I think that you are not comfortable with your sexuality and I’m not sure if you also are not comfortable with your gender? (sorry if that is offensive)

darkeyes
Oct 5, 2012, 8:18 AM
As a Scottish "lipstick lesbian", trust me..

I see the appeal... *laffs*. But u are who u are for whatever reason... I'm not saying don't question it, just don't get too much angst bout it... one man's (girl's) kink is another's normality.. u don't say how old u are and it's not on ur profile except to say that u r young, but as we become older if we don't get too much angst we become more easy about what we are and who... our sexual mores do change as does lots of other aspects of who we are.. our sense of how we want to look changes too but there is usually a consistent thread which can be tracked back to our earliest beginnings.. if u feel easier dressing in a feminine manner great.. do it.

I know a few x dressers who look the part.. most don't and if u are young as I suspect, it does become more difficult to look the part as u age and many x dressers often become parodies of what they once were because they don't put enough thought into their appearance and move on quickly enough. Women often do the same but whereas they become "mutton dressed as lamb" in appearance, x dressing men more often become a parody.. that's a warning for u to be careful of...

Some women do prefer a more feminine male.. but ur Scottish (or at least live in Scotlland) for God's sake... and u know what so many of our countrymen are like. We are a nation of macho men as u well know but many of its women are not great lovers of Mr McMacho.. I know I'm not and neither are too many of my friends.. but not too many are ready yet for the kind of person u are and seem to aspire to be but there are some.. it's finding them which will be ur problem. Some of us (more than u think) don't mind a man who is more feminine in the sense that he is more in tune with how women think.. more sensitive and more in touch with his feminine side (and I don't mean his sexuality), It isn't necessary to x dress for such men and many have a great deal of success in attracting women and not always because the women they do attract want to mother the poor buggers either..although some certainly are that way inclined... I know one guy (from Glasgow of all places.. u know... Jessie City...*laffs) who makes a very successful lothario by acting femininely and attracting the mothering kind...

How u are and what u are will evolve in time.. when I was in my early teens I was different from my early 20s as I was a different creature from how I am now in my early 30s... u will b too.. don't stress too much about it.. exploration is one of the great joys of being young. I had a ball.. I still do in different ways but learning about myself, trying new things, the experimentation which as daft old bats of 33 we mostly give up is all part of being young, living and finding out who we are.. enjoy it babes and do ur thing... but being the feminine male can have its downside whether or not u x dress and whether or not u pull guys.. however cool u are with it.. lots of Mr MacMacho's may not be, so take care of just how u live it...:)

darkeyes
Oct 5, 2012, 8:24 AM
A point of concern is that it seems that all of your sexual encounters have been with sex trade workers or a man connected to the sex trade. I do have to wonder about that but I’m not sure if that means that you have some issues with relating to people. It may mean that you might benefit from some counselling to try to improve your social interactions. That is just a thought.
He is Scottish u daft bugger. trust me.. most people have some problems with relating to other people especially if he lives in the central belt......*laffs* As to counselling.. he is young...exploring.. questioning.. learning... I don't think counselling is needed quite yet...

tenni
Oct 5, 2012, 11:49 AM
He is Scottish u daft bugger. trust me.. most people have some problems with relating to other people especially if he lives in the central belt......*laffs* As to counselling.. he is young...exploring.. questioning.. learning... I don't think counselling is needed quite yet...


Well, I will take your word about people in Scotland and in particular the "central belt". Do most people in Scotland use the services of sex trade workers as a means around the issue of relating to people? ;)
How fortunate for the lucky Scottish sex trade workers then? They must be rich! :)

darkeyes
Oct 5, 2012, 12:26 PM
Well, I will take your word about people in Scotland and in particular the "central belt". Do most people in Scotland use the services of sex trade workers as a means around the issue of relating to people? ;)
How fortunate for the lucky Scottish sex trade workers then? They must be rich! :)*laffs* No tenni.. but some maybe should more than they do.. might stop them being so bloody dopey and aggressive at times..

..as for sex trade workers bein' rich they r bout as rich as ne wer else... wich is not at all mostly... I know a few...but have sed b4...do have 1 m8 who is an escort.. she has a few quid... even makes me seethe an' go green wen I see just how good she looks an wot she has 2 wear..... I am not on bread line zactly and never wear Etam an' Topshop tat but no way could I afford to pay out a grand for a fucking dress and 500 quid for a pair of shoes and hardly notice the hole in me bank balance... but it's not the ordinary punter who uses 'er services.. most of them r not even British far less Scottish....