FKn Hackers

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

In the last two days I have had an attempted hacking on my Yahoo account and my FaceBook account. I changed the passwords on both, and unless someone knows High Cherokee, they arent getting in. What bothers me greatly now is that two seperate persons have told me that they have spoken to me recently, and that I had sent them a pic of me, one of the pics from my profile here. As far as I can recall, I didnt send anyone one of my pics.

I'm trying to find out who this person might be. I have two other alternate adresses, and anyone who is close friend that knows me well, knows what they are. One is this one, Cherokee Minx (Mama Minx) and TheMinx on Fet Life. You also know the inflection of how I talk and write....
If any of you have gotten anything from me recently that doesnt really sound like me, PLEASE let me know. And if they have contacted you via Yahoo messenger, please save the conversation for me.

A very pissed off Cat

[DuckiesDarling]

Hugs ya, my favorite pussy, I haven't checked my email but if I get one I'll let you know.

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Same for yahoo messenger, DD. You know that "I" would hit on you just for shits and giggles. Someone else might do it in a more serious nasty manner. And you know how I talk and act.
Still pissed over this...
Yer Fave Pussy.

[Jobelorocks]

Henceforth why I no longer have Yahoo. I had problems like this twice when I had a yahoo account and then they used my yahoo to hack my facebook. Yahoo was of little help. I changed over to gmail and haven't had the same issues again.

[tenni]

OH, Dumpling, I'm sorry that happened to you :love87:

I know of a few people that this has happened to. It is really irritating.

I also attended a very interesting workshop on the aspects of hacking. There are good and bad hackers is what I was told. Certainly, this person who did this is seen as bad by most of us. However, why they do it is interesting and some are criminal while others are trying to warn us(not sure about that but that is what they said). It is quite convoluted and complicated. (waits for DD criticism about sometimes a prostitute is just a hooker and not a sex trade worker..;) :)

What we tend to forget that our personal information on the net is being constantly accessed by big corporations and governments. There are no laws or even ways for protecting us. I'm extrapolating a bit without going back to my notes, but when Jobel switched to gmail etc. she may be really exposing yourself to so much more possibility of being used. Everytime we google, we are being directed to "approved" information as google controls what comes up on a search. There are other search engines that are less "corporate friendly". Government control of the internet information is not just controlled in China and the west is free of interference. Google is said to be the worst search engine due to government control and corporate control of ideas. What comes up first in a google search is what "they" want you to have access about.

I'll see if I can find a few gems about hackers philosophy. There are all kinds of good hackers (so I'm told I'm a bit skeptical myself).

What are Hacker Spaces?
Hacker Spaces are community-operated physical places, where people can meet and work on their projects.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoDOrKZK3Kg  http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/

This next one is long (20 minutes) but explains the hackers' world in particular "Anonymous". Don't get upset with the reference to Anonymous as it goes back way beyond that. It presents the idea as good and evil use of the net world. It deals with copyright use and abuse but that is complicated as to who is the good or bad guy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JyWGMv7ROo&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUL37QE474

LOL Yikes!
Fascinating!!!! "It" will not let me upload the 20 minute version with much more detail and angles? (maybe too long or?)

This 4 minute video seems ok but not as detailed and showing hackers as more negative than the 20 minute version. If you want the 20 minute version PM me and I will send you the link.

[csrakate]

Aww. Does this mean you're not really gonna send me some of your delicious home cooking as well as several thousands of dollars as the email stated??? :)

Seriously, hope you get to the source of the issue. Whoever messed with you doesn't know about Kitty's claws. Get 'em Cat!!

[void()]

Check (http://howsecureismypassword.net/) passwords use KeePassX (http://www.keepassx.org/). Also try and use HashPass (http://download.cnet.com/HashPass/3000-2094_4-10495758.html), I use similar based on a shell script which adds proper 'salting' to generate nearly uncrackable passwords, or ones that at least are unable to be cracked for trillions of years. You just remember one 'master' password with KeePass, it then stores the other passwords in an encrypted and 'salted' hash tabled database. You can then use one password with a site name as a second parameter, a third parameter is added being the 'salt', this provides two different keys any cracker attempting to crack your password/s must know, your master password and the 'random' 'salt'.

As a result, I truly do not know my password for some sites. I know my master password and the site name. I give these to the hashing script, it encrypts a password to the clip buffer, I paste it in without seeing or knowing it. If I don't know it, kind of figure nobody else will either. And the clip buffer gets sent to shred (http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?shred+1) and wipe (http://linux.die.net/man/1/wipe) hourly, (http://linux.die.net/man/8/anacron) at randomly chosen minutes of each hour. Also have a tripwire (http://linux.die.net/man/8/tripwire) script which does many various things in an event of compromise.

It's called awareness, not paranoia.

[Long Duck Dong]

lol void, I tested just one of my alphanumeric passwords using that check site, lol.... I think my system / emails are safe....


It would take
a desktop PC about 28 undecillion years to crack your password



that would be on a system checking 4 billion combinations a second and it would only take 10 to the power of 39 ( 10 followed by 39 0's ) years to crack

[wyldguy]

This is one reason I have never linked any of my FB accounts whenever asked to do so by either FB or Yahoo. Not saying that's what happened to you Cat, but I like to keep things separated.

[Implanted]

To be clear, it was to me that the photo was sent. It was on the chat for this site (http://www.bisexual.com/forum/123flashchat.php), not on yahoo, messenger, or any other site out there. It was contained within the realm of Bisexual.com and its chat feature, sent through the private chat.

The photo that was sent was no bigger than the thumbnail size ones you see on your profile pages here on this site. It would not expand into something larger. It is very possible that it was someone who isn't sophisticated enough to do serious hacking. It was just a photo that any one of us on this site can see, and it wouldn't expand in size at all.

I have a bit of a trusting nature which meant I dropped my guard a little. I'm relatively new here, having joined only last month. Had I been here longer, I probably would have noticed that the photo sent to me was Cat's as she is very active on this site. I am glad that most of the people here are genuine, but we always have to be aware of a few bad apples.

[void()]

lol void, I tested just one of my alphanumeric passwords using that check site, lol.... I think my system / emails are safe....


It would take

a desktop PC about 28 undecillion years to crack your password




that would be on a system checking 4 billion combinations a second and it would only take 10 to the power of 39 ( 10 followed by 39 0's ) years to crack

Good to hear.

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Tenni, what the hell does this have to do with Anything? Your personal vendetta with DD and Duck have nothing to do with anything else! ""It is quite convoluted and complicated. (waits for DD criticism about sometimes a prostitute is just a hooker and not a sex trade worker..;) :)"" That was just plain tacky...Dumpling. I dont care if you were kidding her or not. T'wasnt nice.

And a peck to Implanted's handsome face. Ty Sugar..
Cat

[pasco_lol_cpl]

Sorry to hear that you are going through it. It is bloody frustrating and can at times be dangerous or damaging. For another idea about passwords check out this strip from XKCD:

http://xkcd.com/936/

[welickit]

Attempted hack???? How do you qualify that statement? How do you know there was an attempt? Please fill us in, I track these issues every day and I would love to be able to identify an "attempted" hack from your point of view.

Not being a wise ass, I just wonder how you established the "attempt" took place. Obviously the attempt failed as you are here.

[tenni]

Tenni, what the hell does this have to do with Anything? Your personal vendetta with DD and Duck have nothing to do with anything else! ""It is quite convoluted and complicated. (waits for DD criticism about sometimes a prostitute is just a hooker and not a sex trade worker..;) :)"" That was just plain tacky...Dumpling. I dont care if you were kidding her or not. T'wasnt nice.

And a peck to Implanted's handsome face. Ty Sugar..
Cat

Yep Cat It was a joke. It came to my mind because DD made such a statement in another thread a few weeks ago. It was an off topic comment imo. Gawd some of you chics really can get your nickers in a knot...lol Did you not get anything worhty out of what my message was? I wasted my time posting the connections? The hug and kiss meant nothing for you? Waaaaaaaa :( ;)

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

An attempted hacking was at Facebook, who contacted me alerting me to the fact that someone tired logging on Several times using different passwords. It will also give you the location of Where the attempts came from. I'm going to install the Key Stroke Program, and this will end someone's attempts if they try it again.

And No Tenni, I didnt find it amusing one iota. And since I dont Wear knickers, none got in a bunch. Its My IMO that comments aimed at somone else because of a personal dig shouldnt be put on a persons thread that has Nothing to do with some other topic. Especially a dig toward someone else. Its just plain rude.
Cat

[dafydd]

An attempted hacking was at Facebook, who contacted me alerting me to the fact that someone tired logging on Several times using different passwords. It will also give you the location of Where the attempts came from. I'm going to install the Key Stroke Program, and this will end someone's attempts if they try it again.

And No Tenni, I didnt find it amusing one iota. And since I dont Wear knickers, none got in a bunch. Its My IMO that comments aimed at somone else because of a personal dig shouldnt be put on a persons thread that has Nothing to do with some other topic. Especially a dig toward someone else. Its just plain rude.
Cat

hi cat,
sorry to hear about ur concerns. i know how stressful it is to have account security compromised.

Re: FB
sometimes, depending on your connection specifics with your ISP, Facebook will register your own log-ons as being from different locations. i have the same trouble with FB. here on bisexual.com too. Drew said to me once that id logged on from 100 different locations in a month!

anyway...you can set facebook account settings to *notify* you whenever there was s a log on from another location...
but be warned that depending on whether or not you have dynamic/static ip or even you're running your own server, dhcp client, and what computer you are using at the time...it is likely that those log-ons are simply yours.

the truth is that no passwords are strong enuf.
It is easier thn you think to compromise somebody's email or facebook account or computer etc.
however... i would say there's a much smaller chance of it being a personalised hack...most of the time it's automatic netbots (thats more like phising, pinging, flooding etc) and is easier to rectify.

if you've been seriously 'hacked' its likely to be personal and targeted and your response to it monitored.. so its important to take it seriously i agree. but unless you notice something different about how your accounts are working, it could be social engineering...e.g. making you *think or suspect* you've been hacked, (which is just as horrible a violation) and which causes stress, paranoia, doubt depression etc.
If people say you're sending them emails with odd stuff in, ask to see those emails and get them analysed to if they really did come from your account.

There are also common programs/resources which are notoriously bad at making your systems vulnerable....so if you're a regular user of skype, facebook, messanger, if you use chat rooms, or any real time communication on the internet, and/or if you use trial or free versions of ant-virus/anti-malware software... or have one email address that u use for everything...
then chances are you've had your data compromised already at some point, and there will be a tracking cookie hidden amongst all the background stuff that will act like a homing beacon for spam , or allow your devices to be configured so as to provide cpu power for some other network.

if u really think FB is compromised, deactivate your account until your concerns are validated or your rest assured things are ok.
Same with email..if you suspect it's compromised... don't use it.

it sucks but its the only solution to being protected. There can be no worse situation then thinking your accounts are compromised but then continuing to use those same accounts. The best advice, although harsh, is to imediately discontinue use of all sites, resources and programs which rely on cross network communications whilst you feel unsafe.

It's like thinking someone has stolen your house key, but then not changing the locks.
it'll gradually make your online experience rather depressing....youll be spooked by every little thing you see that you dont recognise and the internet wont be fun anymore, it will become a hassle.

FYI some scammers/hackers/netbots, will trick you into thinking you have a security concern so that you WILL reset your password under the auspices of their keyloggers. NEVER renter a password if the page says it was mistyped or not recognised. if what you typed first time isn't recognised (for whatever reason -*even if u think u mistyped it*) do this:

1-delete your browsers content data -cookies , history etc.
2- close the browser
3- reload the web page and enter your password

i hope u get it sorted.
d

and even better if you know what javascript is and how to disable it, do so.

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Ty Daffy, It'll get sorted out. I was mainly ticked about someone using my pic from here. I'm complimented that they liked that particular pic, but pisses me off that they used it without my express permission. Use yer Own damn pic, chick...lol
Cat

[darkeyes]

Ty Daffy, It'll get sorted out. I was mainly ticked about someone using my pic from here. I'm complimented that they liked that particular pic, but pisses me off that they used it without my express permission. Use yer Own damn pic, chick...lol
Cat
Had me yahoo broken into few years 'go and it took months and months 2 assess the damage... luckily for me tho don't know if I will ever find out it all.. wasn't so much what they sent out but what they put in... tho ther wos summa that an all.... including a potentially compromising "love letter"... Lucky I have partic style in way I write.. and 1 or 2 Messenger convos weren't me either.....Who was it? This other me? Someone who knows me fairly well I know that or at least knows a lot about me...Nev found out who but it almost turned me fuckin' paranoid and was sus of just bout every1 I knew for months...as a result upped me security on just bout everythin'..

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Cat are patient. One of these days the chick is gunna slip up on here. I got yahoo all settled, so we shall see. If someone feels the need to emulate me, then thats their dilemma. At least they've got good taste...Kidding kidding..:} Now lets see if they have my particular writing style.....
Silly Cat

[Rhevan]

Hackers are just lucky idiots most of the time, too many use the most common things in life for passwords then tweet about it or post it on Facebook status updates. Social engineering used to be a thing that required talent, see Kevin Mitnick for example, now it's just a matter of reading what someone posts on an area while forgetting it was a public thing.

Good on you for changing your password, Cat, I'd advise doing often and mixing it up with numbers and symbols or utilizing void's suggestion.

Rhevan