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Brian
Mar 3, 2012, 1:17 PM
When I was a kid back in the 1970s my parents had a subscription to Psychology Today (I am pretty sure that was the psych mag). I'm not sure why because neither worked in the mental health field. But I think it might have been a tradition in my extended family to give interesting annual magazine subscriptions as Christmas gifts (Thanks grandpa for 18 years of Nat Geo, and my subsequent love of science!) So anyway, we always had the magazine laying around. It was interesting stuff.

Here is an article from Psychology Today that poses some provocative questions about Rush Limbaugh and Rick Santorum: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/addiction-in-society/201203/what-is-sex-rush-limbaughs-and-rick-santorums-sex-lives


...two questions I'd like to see a reporter pose to Santorum: "Do you enjoy sex?" and, "Does your wife?" Okay, the reporter could also ask, "Do you feel sexual union enhances the intimacy of your marriage?" and, more plainly, "How frequently do you have sex?" Well, then, how about, "Have you ever masturbated?" and "Do you masturbate now?" I mean, he's the one who brought the topic up!

...my questions (through my imagined reporter) for Limbaugh are: "Do you think people pay more to have more sex? Is that true in your life? Is it equally true for women and men?" Because men, ahem, are more likely (a) to pay for sex with a woman than visa versa (including using their fortunes to procure beautiful spouses), and (b) to use Viagra and similar drugs, which you use more of the more often you have sex. Okay, my advanced questions for Limbaugh would be, "How often do you have sex?" "Was sexual incompatibility a major factor in your divorces?" and "Do you use Viagra?" Hey, he brought the topic up.

- Drew :paw:

Godoki
Mar 3, 2012, 1:27 PM
I have one for both of them: When did you first discovered you are attracted to men and why is it so hard for you to accept that fact?

Brian
Mar 3, 2012, 1:29 PM
lol@Godoki! :bigrin:

csrakate
Mar 3, 2012, 1:34 PM
Thanks, Drew! Now I am haunted by images in my head of those men having sex....It's not a pretty picture.....:tongue:

slipnslide
Mar 3, 2012, 2:15 PM
People tend to confuse these public figures and their public personas with the actual person. Don't forget that they're both pandering for an audience and have been quite successful at it.

**Peg**
Mar 3, 2012, 2:22 PM
I have one for both of them: When did you first discovered you are attracted to men and why is it so hard for you to accept that fact?


keen observation there Godoki :)

darkeyes
Mar 4, 2012, 6:37 AM
Thanks, Drew! Now I am haunted by images in my head of those men having sex....It's not a pretty picture.....:tongue:

Be fun if we found out it wos wiv each other tho.. tee hee:tong:

pepperjack
Mar 4, 2012, 3:29 PM
When I was a kid back in the 1970s my parents had a subscription to Psychology Today (I am pretty sure that was the psych mag). I'm not sure why because neither worked in the mental health field. But I think it might have been a tradition in my extended family to give interesting annual magazine subscriptions as Christmas gifts (Thanks grandpa for 18 years of Nat Geo, and my subsequent love of science!) So anyway, we always had the magazine laying around. It was interesting stuff.

Here is an article from Psychology Today that poses some provocative questions about Rush Limbaugh and Rick Santorum: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/addiction-in-society/201203/what-is-sex-rush-limbaughs-and-rick-santorums-sex-lives



- Drew :paw:


Also used to enjoy this magazine on a regular basis when younger, along with Popular Mechanics, Popular Science, Consumer Reports, Sports Illustrated & Boy's Life( Boy Scout publication). Also love Nat Geo; really captured visual splendor of our world with it's awesome photography. OK, so Limbaugh is an overweight, middle-aged, very successful guy who's also lucky enough to be fucking younger women regularly. Isn't he kind of epitomizing the American Dream for millions of other men?

BiJoe696
Mar 5, 2012, 6:26 AM
Also would like to ask Rush Limpballs if he would rather insurance companies pay for unwanted children's health insurance coverage for years and the cost of delivering the baby or wouldn't it be much cheaper to pay for the birth control to prevent them by those who do not want them?
And would he like to see these children born to women who do not want them being the wonderful Christian he is promoting himself to be. His wife, if he currently has one, must be so proud of him and so much under his thumb and likes it.

Chromehorn
Mar 5, 2012, 8:53 AM
I'm sure Rick Santorum's sperm are made to dress as crusader's of the Middle Ages, rolling their eyes at each other knowing that the rhythum method is not going to work.

Rush Limbaugh's are more of a sea walrus type ( yes sperm whale seems the obvious choice), to be beached onto a xxl size cotton boxer, once again in frustration, that Jude Law has yet to call.

csrakate
Mar 5, 2012, 8:59 AM
OK, so Limbaugh is an overweight, middle-aged, very successful guy who's also lucky enough to be fucking younger women regularly. Isn't he kind of epitomizing the American Dream for millions of other men?

Nothing gets a woman's juices flowing more than a drug addled, bloated blow hard. Oh yeah....what a dream to be fucked for your money and status. Hopefully men aspire to more than this. I personally believe that they do.

Hmmmm...wonder if Limbaugh considers his bed mates "sluts"....but I do hope they use contraception....the very thought of little Rush's running around makes me very nervous!

pepperjack
Mar 5, 2012, 9:33 PM
Nothing gets a woman's juices flowing more than a drug addled, bloated blow hard. Oh yeah....what a dream to be fucked for your money and status. Hopefully men aspire to more than this. I personally believe that they do.

Hmmmm...wonder if Limbaugh considers his bed mates "sluts"....but I do hope they use contraception....the very thought of little Rush's running around makes me very nervous!

I can see you failed to see my comment as the mostly tongue-in cheek statement it was meant to be. Nevertheless, American men are programmed to strive for success & it's undeniable that a major perk of success is the adulation and attraction of women and many of those men will exploit that perk. My last girlfriend was sort of a golddigger; we split when money started to become an issue. She had serious credit card debt, I was frugal with rainy day money to fall back on. She had a guy with money waiting in the wings. They married after 4 weeks of dating; the marriage also lasted only 4 weeks. Go figure!:rolleyes:

axlton
Mar 5, 2012, 10:41 PM
Well, I Don't really like either of these people, but I really wouldn't be happy if Santorum gets the GOP nomination. So, my question for him (preferably during live debate) would be. It's been alleged that in 1994 you were involved in a gay prostitution scandal, can you elaborate on that? Then, the next day the front page of every newspaper in the country would read "Rick Santorum Denies Gay Sex Scandal." With these subjects, especialy in America for some reason a denial is as good as an admission of guilt, would also be the funniest thing to hit the papers in a while. :tongue:
Sure the question would be entirely made up. But, I'd just have to claim journalistic integrity and not cite my sources :)

csrakate
Mar 6, 2012, 9:59 AM
I can see you failed to see my comment as the mostly tongue-in cheek statement it was meant to be. Nevertheless, American men are programmed to strive for success & it's undeniable that a major perk of success is the adulation and attraction of women and many of those men will exploit that perk. My last girlfriend was sort of a golddigger; we split when money started to become an issue. She had serious credit card debt, I was frugal with rainy day money to fall back on. She had a guy with money waiting in the wings. They married after 4 weeks of dating; the marriage also lasted only 4 weeks. Go figure!:rolleyes:
My apologies for not seeing the sarcasm in your statement....especially when you have obviously felt the sting of such attraction. I've never understood the women who only see dollar signs.....they truly miss out on experiencing a true bond with another human being.

Realist
Mar 6, 2012, 11:36 AM
I admit to having a conservative bent, regarding financial and behavioral issues, but have a strong dislike for fanatics and religious zealots. Many of the popular, outspoken, radio/TV commentators and politicians, seem to fit in that category, in my mind. Even if I agreed with a few of their ideals, I would avoid them, because of their fanaticism.

I can't help but be leery of those who march to the drums beat by such personalities. I've known people, who listen to their rants so often that their opinions become a mirror of these commentators. Like any situation where a person hears something over and over again, they may come to think exactly as their mentor does. Their own thoughts and desires evaporate and their goals become those of these fanatics'!

What's it called? Oh yes, brainwashing.

IanBorthwick
Mar 6, 2012, 9:39 PM
I admit to having a conservative bent...

As Rachel Maddow said, the reason most conservatives don't identify with the Modern Right Wing of today is because they are running so far to the right we are ALL left in the middle.

I'm afraid whatever they are trying to accomplish today they have simply made you and I stand in pretty much the same political strata, despite any leaning or preference because they have left you high and dry....because yes, they are playing the modern version of Political Brinksmanship. And that requires brainwashing themselves at a vicious pace. I'll keep the right side of my couch warm for ya, Realist. I'll never call you crazy for calling THEM crazy. :D

onewhocares
Mar 6, 2012, 9:54 PM
I was so fucking pissed off at BOTH of these two men..............I did NOT vote.

Belle of Boston

12voltman59
Mar 6, 2012, 10:40 PM
After all these years, and all the stuff that Limbaugh has said all these years that no matter how vile, negative, nasty and polarizing it has been, there were no repercussions that he ever seemed to have to face for all his mouth spouting, but with the latest comments he made about women and all--- this may finally serve to be his undoing---his advertisers are dropping him like a hot rock----so far he has lost something like over 30 advertisers with more joining the list everyday. If he loses all that many more--it might be curtains for "The EIB Network" as he calls his "media empire."

EIB means "Excellence in Broadcasting----no ego going there, right?

Let us hope that FINALLY---we can put Rush Limbaugh on the unemployment line---even though if Rush hasn't spent all of his money on prescription drugs and too much rich food----he should be OK----he does have a pretty big estate down in Palm Beach---sure hope he has it pretty well paid off. I would be happy if he just retreated to the compound and never left it again---at least on a public basis and he goes back to being just another, old fat rich white guy in Palm Beach County.

You can be sure though, even if his show goes away--at least on the air, he will be able to pull in bigtime speaking fees to talk to groups like AIPAC, and other conservative groups at their gatherings--making just "a little bit of money" like a half mill a year or so. Life sure is tough!!!

pepperjack
Mar 6, 2012, 11:06 PM
I admit to having a conservative bent, regarding financial and behavioral issues, but have a strong dislike for fanatics and religious zealots. Many of the popular, outspoken, radio/TV commentators and politicians, seem to fit in that category, in my mind. Even if I agreed with a few of their ideals, I would avoid them, because of their fanaticism.

I can't help but be leery of those who march to the drums beat by such personalities. I've known people, who listen to their rants so often that their opinions become a mirror of these commentators. Like any situation where a person hears something over and over again, they may come to think exactly as their mentor does. Their own thoughts and desires evaporate and their goals become those of these fanatics'!

What's it called? Oh yes, brainwashing.


Met a new neighbor a few years ago who turned out to be a good companion & friend for awhile. We spent many enjoyable hours together socializing. Strictly platonic. Turned out she was indirectly connected to a high-profile celebrity. She had been relegated through a divorce. We talked about this a lot. One day, she very effectively dramatized her plight by telling me her ex had been a military officer who had specialized in teaching " brainwashing techniques" to U.S. Special Forces. In other words, what chance did she have in the face of that kind of opposition? It's true; she wrote a book;I got one of the first personally signed copies, prior to her public signing.

binectar
Mar 7, 2012, 4:20 PM
I can see from the prior posts that mine will not be so popular, but unless I'm missing something we're talking about students who wish for others to subsidize their behavior. I don't condone the nastiness of name-calling while citing ones own personal outrage. However, I most certainly don't believe, in any way, that anyone's personal income should be used for the unwise personal choices of someone else! Obviously I'm an open-minded individual with regard to sexuality or I wouldn't be here. This is not about wanting to have sex. It's about taking responsibility for ones' own behavior. Everyone here seems to be spouting their own vitriol about Rush Limbaugh and Rick Santorum...essentially the same hate-mongering of which they are being accused.
Now before you go off and say I'm a supporter of theirs, step back and see if what I'm saying is true.
I like a couple of cups of coffee in the morning. I've even been known to get a little snippy if someone wants to be too talkative with me beforehand. (no-one's perfect) But for me to expect anyone else to pay for my coffee would be for me to suffer the same symptom of "entitlement" that these college girls suffer! I could easily cite the possibility that I might "go postal" one day should I not receive my daily allotment of coffee, thus making society guilty of ignoring my condition. Perhaps I could even muster a class action lawsuit to champion my cause before the court, or even a Congressional committee! Absurd, isn't it?

Thank you. Now let's all go out and be responsible for our own behavior. Let's remove all factors that may encourage the use of public funds for private behavior. Perhaps if we were all taught as children that every child isn't a little angel, not every child is a champion, not every child is a genius, then we might get back to reality and remove the "entitlement gene" from this disease that has come to infect us! I for one have no desire to move any of those I love with anything other than kindness and guidance, if asked for. But my first lesson would center around the concept that we are, without fail, responsible for our own actions.

No sugar please, and I'd like a vacation...business class would be ok!

"It's not life that kills us. It's our reaction to it."

swmnkdinthervr
Mar 7, 2012, 4:22 PM
I read a funny statement in the Santorum for Pres thread: "Santorum believes that conception begins with an erection." While I don't believe he is quite that naive I'm pretty certain he lacks a great deal of information and understanding about sexuality in general. I'd like to ask him what/where in his life he finds pleasure and why.

I remain convinced Rush Limbaugh is just a bitter/angry man blaming everyone one else in the world for all his troubles, unfortunately he found that he can make money from his vile/vitriolic spew. I would ask Limbaugh the same question but for an entirely different reason, I'm certain he couldn't answer it honestly but I'd like to hear the lie he keeps telling himself!

pepperjack
Mar 7, 2012, 7:15 PM
I can see from the prior posts that mine will not be so popular, but unless I'm missing something we're talking about students who wish for others to subsidize their behavior. I don't condone the nastiness of name-calling while citing ones own personal outrage. However, I most certainly don't believe, in any way, that anyone's personal income should be used for the unwise personal choices of someone else! Obviously I'm an open-minded individual with regard to sexuality or I wouldn't be here. This is not about wanting to have sex. It's about taking responsibility for ones' own behavior. Everyone here seems to be spouting their own vitriol about Rush Limbaugh and Rick Santorum...essentially the same hate-mongering of which they are being accused.
Now before you go off and say I'm a supporter of theirs, step back and see if what I'm saying is true.
I like a couple of cups of coffee in the morning. I've even been known to get a little snippy if someone wants to be too talkative with me beforehand. (no-one's perfect) But for me to expect anyone else to pay for my coffee would be for me to suffer the same symptom of "entitlement" that these college girls suffer! I could easily cite the possibility that I might "go postal" one day should I not receive my daily allotment of coffee, thus making society guilty of ignoring my condition. Perhaps I could even muster a class action lawsuit to champion my cause before the court, or even a Congressional committee! Absurd, isn't it?

Thank you. Now let's all go out and be responsible for our own behavior. Let's remove all factors that may encourage the use of public funds for private behavior. Perhaps if we were all taught as children that every child isn't a little angel, not every child is a champion, not every child is a genius, then we might get back to reality and remove the "entitlement gene" from this disease that has come to infect us! I for one have no desire to move any of those I love with anything other than kindness and guidance, if asked for. But my first lesson would center around the concept that we are, without fail, responsible for our own actions.

No sugar please, and I'd like a vacation...business class would be ok!

"It's not life that kills us. It's our reaction to it."


This is an excellent post! Saw an interesting story on this morning's news about a 24 year old woman who won a million dollar lottery prize. She bought a house & a new car and yet still collects over $200 in monthly welfare, claiming she needs it to pay her bills. Can't understand how she's getting away with that. Anyway, your comments are right on. I have a definite bias toward lazy, spoiled , pampered people who feel a need to be carried by others.

darkeyes
Mar 8, 2012, 11:17 AM
I always like this attitude that we subsidise education... its what we do to children is it not? We pay for and "subsidise" their education to help them get on in the world.. it is because we believe that children are entitled to a decent education and also in the knowledge that an educated workforce is better than the alternative and will bring greater returns to society than one which is not.. at what point do we stop educating people and providing the institutions for them to better themselves and therefore also society? Just as children repay to society for their education as they go through their working lives college and university graduates do the same by the increase in earnings that a college or university degree on average earns.. through increased taxation they then "subsidise" both children through primary and secondary education and also, in a society worth a damn, those who wish to go on into further education through college and university.. it is called investment in people.. and providing them with the knowledge and skills to make their own little world better, and as a result of the increased opportunities that education provides, and increased income that it invariably provides and increased taxation they pay, helps make our societies better... I do wish people would waken up a bit and realise why we do educate people.....

binectar
Mar 8, 2012, 5:29 PM
I always like this attitude that we subsidise education... its what we do to children is it not? We pay for and "subsidise" their education to help them get on in the world.. it is because we believe that children are entitled to a decent education and also in the knowledge that an educated workforce is better than the alternative and will bring greater returns to society than one which is not.. at what point do we stop educating people and providing the institutions for them to better themselves and therefore also society? Just as children repay to society for their education as they go through their working lives college and university graduates do the same by the increase in earnings that a college or university degree on average earns.. through increased taxation they then "subsidise" both children through primary and secondary education and also, in a society worth a damn, those who wish to go on into further education through college and university.. it is called investment in people.. and providing them with the knowledge and skills to make their own little world better, and as a result of the increased opportunities that education provides, and increased income that it invariably provides and increased taxation they pay, helps make our societies better... I do wish people would waken up a bit and realise why we do educate people.....


I hope this wasn't in response to my post. I am all for education, to a point, paid for by public taxation. Beyond that (college and upward) it should be based on both merit and need. But that is a different subject entirely. I was referring to the personal choices being made by, in this case, young women who are, again in this case, all attending a school that costs well over $40,000/year to attend. None of that has any bearing whatsoever on whether or not these women want to sleep with men on a regular basis. That is a personal choice, not a need. Education for children is a need because these sponges must be given assistance and guidance in order to survive the world. Beyond that they must be prepared to survive on their own. At some point in everyone's formative years independence is what is most desired...at least it is for those who have an abiding sense of responsibility. Our job is to instill that sense of responsibility, not subsidize behavior that prevents the boundaries of personal responsibility from ever being recognized.

We are not entirely in disagreement if this was intended as a response to my posting. I apologize for wasting your time if it wasn't.

I don't remember condoms being any part of my own college education. And they sure weren't part of my tuition!

darkeyes
Mar 10, 2012, 7:48 AM
I hope this wasn't in response to my post. I am all for education, to a point, paid for by public taxation. Beyond that (college and upward) it should be based on both merit and need. But that is a different subject entirely. I was referring to the personal choices being made by, in this case, young women who are, again in this case, all attending a school that costs well over $40,000/year to attend. None of that has any bearing whatsoever on whether or not these women want to sleep with men on a regular basis. That is a personal choice, not a need. Education for children is a need because these sponges must be given assistance and guidance in order to survive the world. Beyond that they must be prepared to survive on their own. At some point in everyone's formative years independence is what is most desired...at least it is for those who have an abiding sense of responsibility. Our job is to instill that sense of responsibility, not subsidize behavior that prevents the boundaries of personal responsibility from ever being recognized.

We are not entirely in disagreement if this was intended as a response to my posting. I apologize for wasting your time if it wasn't.

I don't remember condoms being any part of my own college education. And they sure weren't part of my tuition!
It was in part, but more it sparked in me memories of old debates about education in forums...and a bit of a row we have in this country now about further education.. education should be about instilling responsibility into children and young adults and preparing them for the big wide world when they finally enter the world of (hopefully) work. That's in part why we call it education.. the word subsidy in reference to education had always concerned me and is not a word I would ever use because the reality is that it is never subsidy.. more an advance payment in anticipation of greater return once education is complete.. investment.. the question of at what age should we cease paying for education is age old. In my own opinion, not until degree level is complete at university.. beyond that the case becomes increasingly weak..

U arent wasting my time because it is an issue I feel strongly about and my career is in education after all..

..and I cant say about where u live, but condoms are a small but vital part of High School sex education in this country.. by the time kids leave school and go into college or university, in theory at least there should be no need for discussion of them to play a part in a students formal education.. but they are very necessary in allowing many of them to continue that education safely which is why there are normally so many placed around the campus and student unions...

DrBimind
Mar 10, 2012, 8:21 AM
"This is an excellent post! Saw an interesting story on this morning's news about a 24 year old woman who won a million dollar lottery prize. She bought a house & a new car and yet still collects over $200 in monthly welfare, claiming she needs it to pay her bills. Can't understand how she's getting away with that. Anyway, your comments are right on. I have a definite bias toward lazy, spoiled , pampered people who feel a need to be carried by others"

PLEASE don't be so quick to judge before you walk in her shoes....I know nothing about her except that I read,etc... but I do know how it feels to be dependent on public before a legal injury case took 4 yr.s & I couldn't work & wife already disabled with spinal problems. Now as we have case judged in our favor, everyone wants to make a deal or pre-judge us since we still get Food Stamps. No check yet and if they did stop FS now, we wouldn't make our bills. I imagine it's similar with this woman...it's all loan guarantee because of her winning even before she even gets the check. And BTW, the state cAn't & won't stop her benefits till the check IS there IN HER HAND. Just saying me piece........

darkeyes
Mar 10, 2012, 10:30 AM
"This is an excellent post! Saw an interesting story on this morning's news about a 24 year old woman who won a million dollar lottery prize. She bought a house & a new car and yet still collects over $200 in monthly welfare, claiming she needs it to pay her bills. Can't understand how she's getting away with that. Anyway, your comments are right on. I have a definite bias toward lazy, spoiled , pampered people who feel a need to be carried by others"

PLEASE don't be so quick to judge before you walk in her shoes....I know nothing about her except that I read,etc... but I do know how it feels to be dependent on public before a legal injury case took 4 yr.s & I couldn't work & wife already disabled with spinal problems. Now as we have case judged in our favor, everyone wants to make a deal or pre-judge us since we still get Food Stamps. No check yet and if they did stop FS now, we wouldn't make our bills. I imagine it's similar with this woman...it's all loan guarantee because of her winning even before she even gets the check. And BTW, the state cAn't & won't stop her benefits till the check IS there IN HER HAND. Just saying me piece........
I agree with u.. it is interesting how almost everyone of us tells us we should never believe what we read in the press, and yet most seem to believe what it tells us unquestioningly...

There is a good advert the Guardian is running on telly over here at present about Big Bad Wolf and Three Little Pigs.. it seem Big Bad copped the blame and the aggro from society, but after investigation the lil piggies done it themselves for the insurance and eventually ended up in the dock... as the advert infers... give us the whole story not simply one which appeals to our prejudices which is what far too much of the media is so fond of doing..

pepperjack
Mar 10, 2012, 12:59 PM
"This is an excellent post! Saw an interesting story on this morning's news about a 24 year old woman who won a million dollar lottery prize. She bought a house & a new car and yet still collects over $200 in monthly welfare, claiming she needs it to pay her bills. Can't understand how she's getting away with that. Anyway, your comments are right on. I have a definite bias toward lazy, spoiled , pampered people who feel a need to be carried by others"

PLEASE don't be so quick to judge before you walk in her shoes....I know nothing about her except that I read,etc... but I do know how it feels to be dependent on public before a legal injury case took 4 yr.s & I couldn't work & wife already disabled with spinal problems. Now as we have case judged in our favor, everyone wants to make a deal or pre-judge us since we still get Food Stamps. No check yet and if they did stop FS now, we wouldn't make our bills. I imagine it's similar with this woman...it's all loan guarantee because of her winning even before she even gets the check. And BTW, the state cAn't & won't stop her benefits till the check IS there IN HER HAND. Just saying me piece........


I HAVE walked in her shoes somewhat and definitely also in yours. The most recent development in this case is that she has been cut off from benefits and after taking a lump sum settlement & taxes she wound up with about half a million. Watched her on a television interview; she claimed to feel justified because she has two houses to pay for & maintain.:rolleyes: When I was a teen, there was a very popular song on the radio titled Welfare Cadillac. There are those that really need the assistance & sometimes can't get it and there are those that game the system.

Neonaught
Mar 10, 2012, 9:25 PM
Geeze people! Just thinking about Rush "en flagrate delico" just made me throw up a little in my mouth. I'm not sure I want that image burned into my brain! And according to Santorum sex should be strictly for procreation so I doubt the sheets get sweated up in his bed much.

"If you can't laugh...you're dead."

pepperjack
Mar 11, 2012, 3:11 AM
I admit to having a conservative bent, regarding financial and behavioral issues, but have a strong dislike for fanatics and religious zealots. Many of the popular, outspoken, radio/TV commentators and politicians, seem to fit in that category, in my mind. Even if I agreed with a few of their ideals, I would avoid them, because of their fanaticism.

I can't help but be leery of those who march to the drums beat by such personalities. I've known people, who listen to their rants so often that their opinions become a mirror of these commentators. Like any situation where a person hears something over and over again, they may come to think exactly as their mentor does. Their own thoughts and desires evaporate and their goals become those of these fanatics'!

What's it called? Oh yes, brainwashing.


And I can't help but dislike people that are aloof, condescending, always trying to portray themselves as above the fray.

void()
Mar 11, 2012, 2:24 PM
And I can't help but dislike people that are aloof, condescending, always trying to portray themselves as above the fray.

Know the feeling. Maybe you ... oh wait, no that would be too easy.

blowbbud
Apr 16, 2013, 4:58 PM
AMEN!!!