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leizy
Jun 8, 2006, 1:55 PM
Bisexuals are sexual compulsives who cannot be trusted, cannot be monogamous, and cannot be satisfied with just one partner:

The perceptions and beliefs about bisexuals' trustworthiness and inability to be monogamous are based upon the assumption that bisexuality is purely about sexual behaviors, and disregards many of the other aspects of both bisexuality and relationships, including emotional attractions and gender roles. Can bisexuals be monogamous, or does their need for sex with both men and women drive them to compulsively seek out sex wherever and however they can find it? Is the sexual life of a bisexual a perpetual orgiastic hedonism, with threesomes and group sex across bedrooms and living room floors?

Parts of these assumptions are actually based in some facts; past research studies by Rosario et al, Wold et al., and Cochran and Mays, as well as Weinberg, show that bisexuals on average do have more sex than most people, and that bisexuals are less monogamous than many people. Both male and female bisexuals report higher numbers of male partners, perhaps due to the ease with which male sex partners can be met. Male bisexuals report significantly fewer lifetime male partners than are reported by gay men, but report similar numbers of female partners when compared to heterosexual men. When examined in the short-term, bisexual men acknowledge similar numbers of male partners to the experiences of gay men, though their numbers of male partners are lower across their lifetime, due perhaps to the later onset of same-sex sexual activity, and to changes in sexual behaviors across their lifespan.

Bisexual women however, report higher numbers of sex partners than are reported by other women, regardless of sexual orientation. Bisexual women seem to be somewhat more promiscuous than other women, reporting more male sexual partners than heterosexual women, though they report similar or slightly fewer numbers of female partners than are reported by lesbians. So, bisexual men and women do have more same-sex encounters than heterosexuals, and similar or slightly lower rates than homosexuals. While bisexual women are having somewhat more sex than heterosexual women, this certainly doesn't support the assertions that bisexuals are significantly more sex-crazed than heterosexuals, gays or lesbians. While some studies do suggest somewhat more alternative sexual practices such as group sex among bisexuals, most bisexuals report that they do not pursue sexual encounters with both men and women simultaneously, but instead have serial or parallel relationships. The greatest stigmas of bisexuality however, are attached to the bisexual male. The fact that research shows bisexual men are overall less sexually active than homosexual men, suggests that the assumptions of hypersexuality are based more upon prejudice (or perhaps even upon jealousy) than upon the real facts.

Several studies conducted by independent researchers Weinberg, Rust and Enihorn have shown that bisexuals are less monogamous than heterosexuals and homosexuals. Slightly less than half of bisexual men and women report having multiple simultaneous sexual relationships, compared to around one-third of gay and heterosexual men, and one-fifth of heterosexual women. Lesbians are the most monogamous group, with only a tenth reporting infidelity. However, while these findings suggest that bisexuals are doing lots of sneaking around, additional research sheds more light on these relationships.

First, bisexuals maintain longer relationships than most homosexual relationships, and those relationships are most often with other-sex partners. Anecdotal reports by bisexuals have discussed how couples and individuals communicate about their bisexuality and maintain their relationship, as well as their monogamy. Beyond bisexuals in relationships where there is monogamy or infidelity, there are other options. According to most studies and interviews, bisexuals are far more likely than heterosexuals to be in "open" relationships when they are in a committed relationship. One researcher, Kristen McLean, interviewed about sixty Australian bisexuals where and found that somewhat more than half of them were in nonmonogamous relationships. What McLean found however, was a surprising amount of effort, honesty and communication that went into these relationships, and the number of men and women that described how their relationships had been improved by their improved communication and openness to other relationships. The bisexual couples described different arrangements, depending upon their individual needs, but all discussed how they had worked together to find ways to deal with their bisexuality within their relationships such that their relationships and their sense of self as a bisexual was improved.

Most studies, including McLean's, have shown that when bisexuals are nonmonogamous, they most often pursue multiple, but separate relationships with varying degrees of sexual and emotional involvements. These relationships are not universally sexual in nature. While some bisexuals describe that their additional relationships are purely sexual, others have described that their relationships may at times involve no sex, but may instead be based upon emotional intimacy, with no actual sexual contact. While some bisexuals do involve themselves in group relationships with multiple partners, with some research showing that one out of four bisexual males had had sex with multiple partners at once, and 40% had had sex in the presence of other people, this activity is much lower in females, and seems confined to sexual contact, as opposed to long-term relationships.

Some of the beliefs about bisexuals and monogamy are grounded in truths. Bisexuals do have somewhat more sex partners than heterosexuals, and are less monogamous than straight couples. They are more likely to be in open relationships, or to be unfaithful, though as many bisexuals are monogamous and faithful as are not. But, many bisexuals have done tremendous work to communicate openly and honestly with their partners about their needs. Are bisexuals by their nature incapable of honesty or monogamy? No, the research is clear that bisexuals are capable of both honesty and monogamy. As bisexuals age, they appear to gravitate towards committed, long-term, heterosexual and monogamous marriages. Why are bisexuals at higher risk for infidelity or involved in nonmonogamous relationships, and what does this tell us about both bisexuals and marriage? Is this an issue for younger marriages and relationships, or do these issues span the lifetime of a marriage? Are these issues related to the social supports and recognition enjoyed by heterosexual marriage, that are not applied to other relationships, and if so, can or will the institution of marriage change to meet the needs of the many bisexuals and bisexually-behaving individuals out there? Research in these areas is still in infancy. There is much that we don't know about nontraditional marriages. However, it is clear that the framework of traditional marriage is not especially comfortable for many bisexuals, and that the mismatch leads many bisexuals and their partners into nontraditional marriage and relationship arrangements.

leizy
Jun 8, 2006, 1:56 PM
Oops - forgot my intro - this is another part of my chapter, reviewing research on bisexuals. Comments, criticism, corrections are requested...

cheers.
david

JohnnyV
Jun 8, 2006, 3:41 PM
Leizy,

Thank you for another excellent article. I am learning a lot from your work. Below are just some (minor) points of feedback:

Can you rethink your use of the word "promiscuous"? It's hard for that word not to convey a serious judgment. And the title of the chapter seems to be about compulsion, yet you seem to be discussing more a voluntary promiscuity than an obsessive disorder like sex compulsion.

A little tweaking might help the paragraph below:

Parts of these assumptions are actually based in some facts; past research studies by Rosario et al, Wold et al., and Cochran and Mays, as well as Weinberg, show that bisexuals on average do have more sex than most people, and that bisexuals are less monogamous than many people. Both male and female bisexuals report higher numbers of male partners, perhaps due to the ease with which male sex partners can be met. Male bisexuals report significantly fewer lifetime male partners than are reported by gay men, but report similar numbers of female partners when compared to heterosexual men. When examined in the short-term, bisexual men acknowledge similar numbers of male partners to the experiences of gay men, though their numbers of male partners are lower across their lifetime, due perhaps to the later onset of same-sex sexual activity, and to changes in sexual behaviors across their lifespan.

I get lost a little in the last few sentences. How does later onset of gay sex cause bi men to have fewer male partners across their lifetime? Or are the numbers the same? I think I know what you mean but the long sentences make for some possible double-entendres or confusion. Maybe break up the sentences where you have so many commas.

You're tackling a good issue here. The crack about jealousy might create more turmoil among your readers than is necessary though.

On a personal note, I have always felt a kind of flesh guilt for the number of sexual partners I've had, partly because my rap sheet brings on the puritanical scrutiny of both straights and gays. Straights are simply astounded by the numbers of male partners a bi male can have accumulated, and look at me like I'm living scum. Gays, on the other hand, can be very contemptuous toward men who have slept with a lot of women, because often gay males think of female bodies as dirty or repugnant; many gay males I know also see heterosexual intercourse as somehow always exploitative of the female, and they are quick to stigmatize the promiscuous straight male as abusive or insensitive. So my high number of past female partners makes gay guys look at me like a sick predator or something.

I was just conversing with another bi.com member in the chatroom yesterday, though, about the perplexing way that these numbers are tallied. Gay men tend to count as "partners" even men with whom they've only had jerkoff sessions or intense kissing, which is why so many of them have figures so high. If you were to count only anal sex, for instance, my number of male partners would be only 3! But if you count kissing and mutual j/o, the number is astronomical. Straight people, I have noticed, have a tendency only to count vaginal intercourse as sex, so some of their lower numbers are misleading. A straight guy who gets a handjob for an extra $25 from a stripper at a nudie bar won't count that, whereas a gay male usually would. Maybe you can add some details about that too.

Your statistics help me to feel better about my past, so I don't feel so gross. I hope the exoneration lasts and I dont start feeling gross again!

Love,
J

NightHawk
Jun 8, 2006, 10:03 PM
I have serious doubts about the quality of the statistics on numbers of sexual partners for bisexuals due to the systematic errors due to having study groups unlikely to be representative of bisexuals. The more sexually active and least monogamous bisexuals are those systematically most likely to be identified as bisexuals for the purpose of such studies. Older, married men and women are almost certainly under-represented in such studies. These men and women are likely to have many fewer sex partners than will younger, unmarried bisexuals. Since a substantial number of bisexuals identify themselves as such when they are 40 or 50 years old and at that time in life are likely to have fewer total sex partners and lower rates of sexual activity than 20 and 30 year olds, including such people in their representative numbers would likely change the statistics to something less different than those of heterosexuals than seems to be the case in the studies you are talking about. Many people who think of themselves as bisexual have actually had no to little sex with the same sex, in my experience.

Of course, it is also very important to look at the criteria used in any such study for who is considered to be bisexual. If you say that someone is bisexual only if they have had sex with someone of the same sex and is not if they feel their strongest sexual attractions to people of the same sex but have not had sex with any such same sex person, then the statistics are already skewed to higher levels of sexual activity. Many bisexuals are very interested in being discreet and safe and hence limit their numbers of same sex partners to small numbers and perhaps semi-monogamous long-term relationships. It would be very difficult to find and include adequate numbers of these bisexuals in such studies.

If you are going to cite the statistics from the studies you report, it would be good to discuss what limitations they have with respect to the studied groups. With bisexuals, this is almost certainly severe limitations!

leizy
Jun 9, 2006, 10:35 AM
Thanks Johnny and Nighthawk, I've worked on the issues you guys mention - great comments!

NightHawk
Jun 10, 2006, 12:44 PM
David,

Another issue I would address is the assumption that bigamy (as a sexual relationship of two rather than a marriage to two) is less ethical than monogamy. Some bisexuals may prefer the kind of serial monogamy that many heterosexuals practice and that is often fine. It may not be fine if a couple have children, but then again there may be little alternative. However, if two heterosexual people get along well as partners and have children, but are not sexually satisfied with one another, it may very well be more ethical for them to have a sexual partner outside the marriage, than to break up the marriage and have the children lose the advantages of a two-parent home. The same applies to such a family where at least one of the parents is bisexual. If that person needs a sexual partner of each sex to be fully happy and this does not hurt the marriage relationship, but actually enhances it, then this bigamy should not be considered unethical. In fact, it should not be even if no children are involved, if the married adults wish to stay married. That is their choice. No one else is sufficiently a stakeholder to warrent their interference. No one else has a valid moral ground from which they can condemn the married couple with one or both spouses having an additional lover.

Clearly, many people will disagree with me based on traditional Christian ethics. Perhaps some on other grounds. I do not see any valid, rational grounds. Perhaps you do. But if you do, then as the one who offers an implicit moral condemnation of a bisexual, or a heterosexual, who has two sexual relationships, you are under obligation to prove that that moral condemation is rationally justified. If you do not wish to do this or cannot do this, then do not buy into the prejudicial assumption that a person having two sexual relationships is immoral. Afterall, if you are simply going to assume the prejudices of the majority, then there is no hope for bisexuals being respected whatsoever. The existence of the prejudice itself is the basis for the implicit moral condemnation.

There is an explicit problem in being bisexual. Being attracted to people of both sexes and recognizing the differences in the sexes and the differences that this brings to relationships, it is not generally healthy to require that the bisexual, in his or her search for fulfillment, must break off a great relationship with a lover of one sex in order to morally pursue a great and complementary relationship with a lover of the other sex. This is arbitrary and indefensible. The bisexual may well be best served by two great relationships, including their sexual aspects. Those loved by the bisexual may be delighted that the one they love is happy and fulfilled. Sometimes, this will not be the case, but that this is not the case should not be assumed.

Some people will find that two satisfying relationships take more time than they have. But some may not find this to be true. Some partners may be inclined to the low emotion of jealousy, but not all. The assumption that the moment relationships become complicated, they become immoral, is not necessarily valid. People are very different and very individual. Our moral sense should not be defined only in terms of the lowest common denominator capabilities of the population at large. Different people have different capabilities.

ghytifrdnr
Jun 11, 2006, 3:06 AM
Damn! This is a good thread! These are the very issues I am wrestling with at the present time. And thanks so much to Nighthawk for voicing my thoughts so much better than I could. :bowdown:

CountryLover
Jun 11, 2006, 8:11 AM
*Applause for Nighthawk*

You expressed it so eloquently!

I don't count myself a swinger, nor even polyamorous.

Yet I am best fulfilled, balanced when I have a relationship with one of each gender. I have no difficulty maintaining those relationships concurrently, mostly because I choose partners who are also able to do this. :bibounce:

NightHawk
Jun 12, 2006, 12:01 AM
Thank you ghytifrdnr and CountryLover for your kind words and support for my viewpoint. leizy, I understand that you are trying to address a frequent argument critical of bisexuality and may or may not ascribe to the pejorative assessment of dual loving relationships yourself, but if you do not, then it would be best to make this clear.

For myself, I have a good marriage with my wife. Nonetheless, I need a deep and intimate relationship with a masculine man of good character that spans the range from friendship to good sex. I really have a need to enjoy both a loving relationship with a woman and a man. This relationship with a male friend needs to be built and sustained, as does any really good friendship or marriage. My greater happiness in such a long-term relationship will improve my marriage. It would certainly make my wife happier to have sex no more than once a week! My appetite is too much greater than hers. So, maybe this is one bisexual who is over-sexed, as some would claim all bisexuals are. I expect they are wrong about that, though not about me.

We are all so distinguishably individual. It does make it a bit difficult to find the right friend and lover, but if one is successful, the reward is heaven on earth.

leizy
Jun 12, 2006, 4:49 PM
I actually wrote a second chapter, much longer than this one, reviewing the research regarding polyamory and swinging and open marriages. No, I don't ascribe to the one size fits all definition of relationships (or buttplugs for that matter!) but I'm trying to write as objectively and non preaching as I can. Honestly, with both bisexuality and nonmonogamous relationships (and most alt sex stuff period) the people writing about it are either for it or against it, and those views clearly color the interpretation and results. Same as politics - so long as liberals listen only to liberals, and conservatives only to conservatives, we'll constantly end up polarized, with both discussions moving further and further away from each other.

Yes, more bisexuals than "heterosexuals" seem to gravitate towards nonmonogamous relationships. However, there are many bisexuals that will argue against the notion that bisexuals are all innately polyamorous or nonmonogamous. I guess I don't say it clearly enough, but there are some bisexuals that experience attraction to both sexes at the same time, and "want both" and there are some that are really only attracted to one person at a time, regardless of gender. Maybe a boyfriend this year, a girlfriend next year. Our concepts of sexuality, marriage, relationships, intimacy needs, etc., are frankly all so concrete and dualistic that I think no definitions will ever really work well, until we stop trying to impose our beliefs and judgments on the world, and instead let the way relationships and people are tell us what the definitions should be...Maybe, in the grand scheme, that's what I'm trying to do with my writings. Say what the research and world tells us about bisexuality, and figure out then what this whole thing is all about, rather than the other way around..

cheers.
david

CountryLover
Jun 12, 2006, 9:48 PM
About 18 months ago I was dating a guy who showed me a whole new world in San Antonio. I didn't get involved but I did a LOT of observing.....there's a whole subculture of straight swingers who have little or nothing to do with bisexuality. They were quite shocked at my bisexuality, and by my liking bisexual men. But they're entirely NON-monogamous. Swinging like that didn't interest me in the least.

After that experience I did some thinking.....orientation really doesn't have much to do with whether or not a person is monogamous. Some of us are hardwired monogamous ...some of us are not. It's an individual thing, not an orientation thing.

I consider myself monogamous, within the gender. When I'm loved and in love, it barely crosses my radar to be attracted to someone else. My girlfriend and I are celebrating our one year anniversary this month, and I'm so happy with her that I don't even notice other women. But...she doesn't touch my need for my darling man. The only reason we're considering a second man, is for him....I'll enjoy the results though! :bibounce:

JohnnyV
Jun 12, 2006, 10:07 PM
Happy Anniversary, Country L.

J

NightHawk
Jun 12, 2006, 11:07 PM
David,

It is good to talk to conservatives about bisexuality simply on a rational discussion basis. But you will not move them if you accept their prejudices without examination. I am glad to hear that you do not. Perhaps the context leading into the start of this article makes that clear.

Talking to conservatives about sexuality is good, just as it is good to talk to socialists about people's rights to be productive, to use their income as they see fit, and to own property. All of the rights of the individual should be protected and we all need to try to convince others of that. These days even freedom of speech is under renewed attack, often by both the left and the right.

Monogamy is fine if someone chooses it, but bigamy or non-monogamy is not necessarily immoral. It may best fit the needs and best provide happiness to some people. I am happy that this is recognized by many people here. Personally, I hold one-night and uncommitted relationships as undesirable, but I recognize that it is not my right to condemn them. I just do not want them myself. Two very highly developed and greatly committed relationships would work best for me.