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bigbadmax
Jan 21, 2012, 4:22 AM
Would you go gay for pay?

Not just for sex but as a lifestyle to pay your bills etc? or would this stifle your sexuality?

Long Duck Dong
Jan 21, 2012, 6:09 AM
would I go gay or straight for pay ? employment is employment..... and if I do not like a job, I do not have to take it on or stay with it .....

I look at it as employment, not in a role of paid partner / arm ornament, as to me, I would be being paid / supported to be somebody elses toy......

if I was a female, then it raises the option of being a * mattress * ( mistress with sexual favours ) or a prostitute ( * paid * for services rendered ) ... and yes I do separate them from roles as professional escort ( non sexual ) and lady lover ( sexual ) by way of intent....... and broodmare ( paid to bear young ) as opposed to a surrogate mother

interesting thing is... that a partner can in fact be supported by a partner and in some cases, be a *paid partner *.. which is different to a relationship and marriage style loving couple..... my ex is a prime example of a paid partner, she has the opinion that a partner is there to support her, pay her bills, feed her etc etc while she does nothing

regardless of how you sugarcoat things in life.... some people offer companionship and sex as a way of surviving, some do it cos they can and its a way to get things without working for them....and some do what they are best at.... and it ain't debating in forums.....

why so cold and rude in my opinion..... well I have no issues with people that would do gay for pay or hetero for pesos, lesbian for loot, bi for bucks..... I know a number of people that do offer sexual favours for *compensation * and each has their own reasons......

I simply view it as a form of employment... and I am not the type of person to * screw the boss *...

darkeyes
Jan 21, 2012, 7:08 AM
No Max I would not, nor would I ever encourage anyone else to..

I do know one professional escort who does sexual "favours" and she has several regular female clients although she doesn't consider herself bisexual but quite the str8 girl.. in her eyes the lifestyle which escorting offers allows her a freedom to live far more comfortably than she would as a drop out of the Scottish education system..

When in London with my husband once, we got talking to two young boys no more than 16 in a pub in Soho.. both were "rent boys", both selling themselves to make ends meet.. they even offered Brian a cut price rate and half price for me the cheeky buggers, if I was thrown in for good measure.. for all their trials they retained a good sense of humour you will note..

I am not against selling sex and we have discussed it in the past but not for me tyvm.. I have always been one who prefers to choose those with whom I fuck and require a modicum of mutual attraction, but I have never been tempted to either sell it or pay for it.. but then I have never needed to. It is a job as Duckie says, but it isnt a job I could do.. but having said that... who knows what we will do when are so far down on our uppers as many of those both male and female are who sell their bodies for pay... and many more men than women I think, but this is a feeling and an educated guess rather than certain knowledge, sell themselves to people of the same gender.. and all I can say to all who do is good luck and be safe...

terri
Jan 21, 2012, 8:50 PM
How timely for me this subject come about. Recently while skimming thru the local Craigs List , I came across a posting from a gay man looking to live out some fantasies and was offering to compensate someone for their time. I responded out of curiosity and we spoke on the phone several time, but when I later discussed the proposition with my wife we both came to the conclusion that what he offered was too little. As some of you may know , I have been with out work for the better part of three years do to a screeching halt of the construction industry. It is for this reason that I have opened myself up to any form of employment just to keep from losing our home and to support my wife and children.
So yes, I probably would, but it would have to be worth while.

*pan*
Jan 22, 2012, 10:35 AM
:flag3:hmmm... going gay for pay. gay meaning same sex only, no i don't believe i would . because i couldent have sex with woman and would have to get rid of my wife. being gay means .. well we all know what the gay lifestyle is. i am bisexual and not by choice so this would be making a choice to be gay for pay. money dosent mean that much to me. and besides what would they do if you got caught with a woman loose your pay lol.
so basicaly for me it would be for nothing because i wouldent get paid anyway lol :flag3:

Jobelorocks
Jan 22, 2012, 10:50 AM
If I had fallen in love with a woman and she wanted to be monogamous, I wouldn't have a problem with that, just like I would gladly be monogamous if my husband wasn't cool with swinging. I really have no romantic attraction to women though, not saying it is impossible, but it certainly hasn't happened yet. I don't go anything for pay. If I was that concerned about money, I would have gone for a rich man, which I didn't.

elian
Jan 22, 2012, 11:18 AM
Generally I would not participate in or encourage that sort of behavior - unless I was starving or freezing to death.

My personal philosophy about sexual identity is that you can control who you have sex with but it's a lot harder to control who you fall in love with. It would be a little hypocritical for me to say love someone just for money.

tenni
Jan 22, 2012, 11:26 AM
"gay for pay" imo has absolutely nothing to do with love or relationships.

It may impact any relationship that you have.

I think that it would take a very difficult situation for a heterosexual to do same sex activities and "get it up". Some question the reality of that and think the person would have to be at least bisexual.

I would not be gay for pay even though I would /have had sex with both men and women. I have fortunately sufficient money that I don't have needs financially or emotionally to do that. It wouldn't stiffle my sexuality but it would bother me psychologically and emotionally. I advocate "free love" as a community service to others but we all have "standards"...;)

Are you thinking about being "gay for pay" Max?:bigrin:

pepperjack
Jan 22, 2012, 11:31 AM
Well, a gay millionaire I once worked for came on to me, even offered me his cottage behind his mansion. I rebuffed his advances; I wasn't about to be his boy toy. He was embittered and used his wealth and influence to make life a living hell for me for awhile.:cool:

elian
Jan 22, 2012, 11:42 AM
"gay for pay" imo has absolutely nothing to do with love or relationships.


OH, you mean would I *PROSTITUTE* myself for *MONEY* ?? No, I don't think so - but then again if you're eating dog food just to stay alive anything starts to look good after a while.

I remember a while back someone posted on here about making money with sex, described how he was going to advertise on craigslist or something and then discreetly show up at men's houses.. I'm not quite so sure I'd like to be raped, beaten, robbed - and then what do you do? Go up to a police officer and ask for help? I'd have to think that any other job would be better than that.

Watched some training on the sex trade one time and it was both scary and sickening - to know that somewhere in the world there are stalls with children in them - kept high on drugs or intimidated with fear and physical violence so that a steady stream of businessmen can screw them for five minutes and walk away..

Is probably just about the ONLY reason I feel guilty for looking at porn..and no, I don't look at underage porn but it can still encourage a market for that sort of slavery.

..that's not a good life, it's not glamorous and I would encourage anyone to stay as far away from that sort of lifestyle as possible.

rockhard123
Jan 22, 2012, 6:37 PM
yes i would
a job is a job

Hephaestion
Jan 23, 2012, 6:02 AM
Where's the dividing line?

One keeps company, one is pampered and given gifts of goods and / or money. One is seduced. Perhaps it was on the first and only encounter.

Is this a normal dating experience, whether hetero- or homo- sexual, or is this prostitution?

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darkeyes
Jan 23, 2012, 6:14 AM
Where's the dividing line?

One keeps company, one is pampered and given gifts of goods and / or money. One is seduced. Perhaps it was on the first and only encounter.

Is this a normal dating experience, whether hetero- or homo- sexual, or is this prostitution?

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We discussed this question in a thread a couple of years ago.. I have often accepted gifts from lovers and would be lovers.. sex was never conditional upon receipt of any gift but often I knew they were on there way shall we say, although I was mightily miffed a couple of times when the goodies had been forgotten and left at home by the impending fun.. best I can tell, prostitution begins where sex is conditional on receipt of payment either in goods or in kind or in dosh.. when it is demanded and maybe even simply expected.. often only one person can possibly know that...

Hephaestion
Jan 23, 2012, 8:46 AM
Damn - that's my morality gone up in smoke - I'm a tart after all.

darkeyes
Jan 23, 2012, 8:54 AM
Don't u worry ya pretty lil bonce 'bout it, heph... think on it this way... ther r prob more who gave and give gifts in the hope and expectation of bit a of rumpy than who ever received them as a condition of delivering sed pumpy.. wot dus that say 'bout them??;)

..an' ther is nowt rong wiv bein a tart... some of me fave peeps r tarts.. mesel included...:tong:

Realist
Jan 23, 2012, 9:17 AM
When I was in my early 20s, I had a much older lover, who was a doctor of mathematics. I liked him, enjoyed the sex, but didn't have an amorous feeling about the relationship. He was interesting, sex was rewarding, but that's all it was, for me. He was a total bottom and, other than wanting me to masturbate him now and then, it was all about him fulfilling his dreams with a young, reasonably handsome, fellow.

Soon after I began seeing him, he wanted me to commit to being exclusively his lover. He proposed to give me an apartment in his garage, furnish it as I liked, buy me a new car, and furnish me a salary. For the compensation, he wanted me to be there when he needed me. All I'd have to do was be available with a schedule he'd provide.

I would not be allowed to have female friends; the smell of a female or the thought of me wanting to be with one drove him into fits. He was extremely repelled by women. He had a nephew, however, who I could play with, while I was not on his duty schedule.

Fresh out of the Army and with no lucrative job prospects, just then. The offer was tempting.

However, I felt that once I accepted his gifts, my soul would have been his...in a manner of speaking.

After a couple of months, I chose to move-on, instead.

Gearbox
Jan 23, 2012, 3:15 PM
No amount of money could get me hard if I wasn't turned on. If Justin Bieber came knocking with a wad of 50's and stings of jewels for me to make him squeal "Baby! Baby! Ohhhhh!", he'd have to settle for a rim&blow.
And then I'd have to squander my stash on therapy.:(

So NO!! NO! and thrice NO!
(unless the tricks were HOT!:rolleyes:).

The Bisexual Virgin
Jan 23, 2012, 3:55 PM
When I was in my early 20s, I had a much older lover, who was a doctor of mathematics. I liked him, enjoyed the sex, but didn't have an amorous feeling about the relationship. He was interesting, sex was rewarding, but that's all it was, for me. He was a total bottom and, other than wanting me to masturbate him now and then, it was all about him fulfilling his dreams with a young, reasonably handsome, fellow.

Soon after I began seeing him, he wanted me to commit to being exclusively his lover. He proposed to give me an apartment in his garage, furnish it as I liked, buy me a new car, and furnish me a salary. For the compensation, he wanted me to be there when he needed me. All I'd have to do was be available with a schedule he'd provide.

I would not be allowed to have female friends; the smell of a female or the thought of me wanting to be with one drove him into fits. He was extremely repelled by women. He had a nephew, however, who I could play with, while I was not on his duty schedule.

Fresh out of the Army and with no lucrative job prospects, just then. The offer was tempting.

However, I felt that once I accepted his gifts, my soul would have been his...in a manner of speaking.

After a couple of months, I chose to move-on, instead.

Wooow that guy sounded possessive, and very jealous. What grudge does he have against the female gender, that he decided you should not have female friends?

Realist
Jan 23, 2012, 7:39 PM
You wrote: "Wooow that guy sounded possessive, and very jealous. What grudge does he have against the female gender, that he decided you should not have female friends?"

Yes, after we dated for a while, Doc became possessive, demanding, and was very jealous. At first, these traits weren't evident, but I soon learned he was used to getting his way.....because of his wealth and the benefits they derived from catering to him, few had challenged him before.

Some of Doc's previous lovers depended on him to survive.....so they would suck up to him and do whatever they could to appease him. They were primarily very young, pretty boys, with no marketable skills, who basically rented themselves out for the money.

In Doc's twisted mind, they loved him. As smart as he was, he couldn't accept the idea that they were doing what they did, for the money and just to survive.

I was one of the older guys he'd been with and one of the few who had a trade and ability to support myself. He was unable to manipulate me, as I learned he'd done with other young guys. I didn't wnt his money.

Originally, I was with him, because I was new in town, didn't know anyone, and he seemed like a nice, sensual, person to spend time with.

(One of his ex-lovers, a very young-looking boy, who I doubted was old enough to be with a grown lover, came to Doc's house to retrieve some of the things he'd left. I was there, alone, installing some new ceiling fans. The boy told me some things about Doc, that I didn't believe at the time, but later learned it was true. Specifically, the issues that Doc craved controlling his lovers, didn't believe bisexuals existed, and that he abhorred women)

How I discovered his dislike for women was, an old GF had come to Orlando to visit me and we spent the weekend together. She had just left when Doc showed up, wanting to have sex. I hadn't bathed, yet...in fact, I was preparing to shower, when he showed up. When we embraced, he smelled her perfume and there was evidence of our activity in my mustache.

I'm not going to detail the whole asinine show, but he left in a huff and I figured that'd be the last time I'd see him. I didn't understand his opinions about women and inability to accept bisexuality, as a viable lifestyle.

But, soon, he was calling me and asking me to come see him. The rest of our relationship was rocky; he loved drama.....I hated it. He was used to having his way, but there were limits with me. If he'd throw a tantrum, or get verbally abusive, I'd just walk out. That made him furious!

I think it made him want me even more, while driving him insane, because he could not manipulate me.

It was a good thing that I left, we were not good for each other.

jem_is_bi
Jan 23, 2012, 10:49 PM
YES! But, I would have to keep them from knowing that I would be more than willing to do it for no pay.