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Bikash Pandey
Dec 1, 2011, 12:43 PM
i have seen every kind of porn.. frm straight, gay, bi, tranny porn,, whatever you name.. but in gay porn i have always observed the actors are not sensual enough.. it seems they arn't reallly enjoying wht they are doing.. they fail to bring the passion and eroticism that is found in maybe tranny porn... shemale performers are just so engrossed in their work.. many a times i think the actors in gay porn are not even gay :eek: .. they are just performing for money.
opinions wanted.. :cool::bipride:

twilde1952
Dec 1, 2011, 12:50 PM
Most people who are in a deadend jobs, they find no joy in their work, their jobs suck, very little in the way of a future, and you're always getting up the ass. If you want really good porn make your own.

Bikash Pandey
Dec 1, 2011, 12:57 PM
Most people who are in a deadend jobs, they find no joy in their work, their jobs suck, very little in the way of a future, and you're always getting up the ass. If you want really good porn make your own.

i wish i could make porn.. :tongue: with you licking my ass...:tong:

keefer201
Dec 1, 2011, 1:07 PM
i wish i could make porn.. :tongue: with you licking my ass...:tong:

OMG; hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! That was great. I've heard that to get into porn most men have to start out in gay porn. I have no interests in gay porn, Bikash, but I've seen enough to totally agree with you. It does kind of give the statistical knowledge credit that gay men will fuck just about anything with a hole in its ass. Man, I love that Indian sense of humor. LOL

Bikash Pandey
Dec 1, 2011, 1:15 PM
the pleasure is all mine keefer... ;)

ivanthemonkey
Dec 2, 2011, 2:34 PM
If you watch most porns you will note that the passion and noise is mainly coming from the Women and not the men, even in straight porn. Men are quieter and more focused in the act.

It's not the gay porn that is bland and unpasionate, it is the men in most porn.

Add to this, most porn actors are hired for their physical assets and not their ability to actually act, and pasionate, emmotional sex requires acting.

Aside from that, a suprising amount og gay and bisexual porn is done by straight men, who are only engaging in homosexual acts for the money, so don't really enjoy themselves. Of course it is hard to fake passion when you aren't actually into the act itself.

Then add in the lower budgets, there are alot more high budget straight porns. These makes alot of gay porn more comparible to the lower budget straight porn. A good example of this would be the high budget Pirates porn movie. Low bugets get what they pay for.

Often female porn actors have other career options that male porn actors don't, exotic dancing/stripping, modeling, nude/sex magazines, escort services, online cam/chat, hostess, etc, as well as even being well know celebrities in the field. Whereas there are fewer such opportunities for men.

The other reason for male porn actors being poor actors, is performance. many men have trouble performing for the camera on set, so a good many potential male actors find themselves of little to no value in the porn industry if they can't keep it up, whereas a male who can keep it up may get the job, despite being a poor actor and not as good looking, simply because he is erect.

These factors lead to there being a larger pool of talented actors for females in the porn industry then for males.

12voltman59
Dec 2, 2011, 6:59 PM
As I have said very often---I find most of the professionally produced porn to be pretty lame----there are a few companies that strive for better and more believable story lines, acting and all that--but with most companies--its like they have this "punch list" of the points that need to be covered no matter the genre of porn that must be hit and as they get to each one of those things--they X it out and move on the shooting the scene with the next item on the list.

The most corny part of all porn to me is some version of the "money shot" and if there is a cock involved--it is to show a hard cock spurting out a load of cum on the body of the person they had been fucking in whatever hole--shooting it on the person's tummy, genitals or nipples, etc.

Even though they are short and the production values are usually lacking--I would much prefer to see a video that some "real people" have shot of them doing some sex act.

Bikash Pandey
Dec 3, 2011, 3:32 AM
i agree with the points stated above.. bt i find some male actors in straight porn too exciting and passionate.. they know how to impress audience.. continous inserting and sucking can't turn you on.. or does??
some male pornstars in straight porn like ROCCO SIFFREDI, RON JEREMY, EVAN STONE..etc etc very popular.. bt can we name any gay pornstar who have got fame??

tempest4all
Dec 3, 2011, 3:07 PM
Many gay porn actors are actually straight. In fact many times the directors want to avoid gays because they form relationships with their partners and then things can get messy.

Bikash Pandey
Dec 3, 2011, 3:24 PM
Many gay porn actors are actually straight. In fact many times the directors want to avoid gays because they form relationships with their partners and then things can get messy.

you knw wht TEMP , thats a humorously serious point... :eek:

dafydd
Dec 3, 2011, 10:12 PM
Many gay porn actors are actually straight. In fact many times the directors want to avoid gays because they form relationships with their partners and then things can get messy.

that's an interesting point, but what brings you to that conclusion? it seems like a wild assertion.
I would say rather the opposite: a lot of so-called 'straight' guys in gay porn are actually gay. u know the ones, 'bait bus', 'broke straight blokes do gay things' etc. the same 'straight' guy then pops up again and again on gay porn sites.

so what if they form relationships?: makes the porn more realistic no? real passion. in any case, wouldn't it be the same issue in straight porn with actors forming relationships? does that mean they use gay porn actors in straight porn?

drugstore cowboy
Dec 4, 2011, 11:35 PM
There are a lot of misconceptions and false myths about porn in this thread.

As someone who actually has done porn before I'll tell you what it's really like.

1. You don't make a lot of money by being filmed in porn at all even if you're a woman or a man. It's not anything that you can have any sort of career out of, you're very easily expendable, and you're not going to make tons of money by being in porn movies. Most men and women in porn are prostitutes on the side-I never did this- and make most of their money that way. Porn studios make most of the money from porn that's filmed or made.

2. Straight guys don't wind up doing gay porn, bisexual porn, or any sort of porn where they have sex with a man. They may appear in solo masturbation scenes that are marketed as porn for bisexual and gay men but they're not having sex with men at all by doing the solo j/o porn.

3. You don't have to do gay or all male porn at all in order to do straight porn.

4. There are straight men in porn but then there are also some bisexual men in porn who have done both gay porn and straight porn. Peter North AKA Matt Ramsey is one of them and there are a lot more.

5. Even if two gay men or two bisexual men are having sex in a porn they're usually 99% of the time not attracted to the other person or people at all. It's like this in straight porn too.

6. You normally do not get to pick who you have sex with when you're in porn. Just because one or more men in porn are bisexual or gay that doesn't mean that they're going to be attracted to each other, that they're going to like or enjoy sex with each other. I've met lots of gay and bisexual male porn guys who told me how they were not attracted to any of the men they'd had sex with while doing porn.

7. In order to be in porn you have to go through all sorts of background checks, sign documents, and you know what you're getting into before you're on camera.

8. Women fake their orgasms and sexual pleasure in both straight and "lesbian" porn. Men don't fake it but you can tell when the people in porn just aren't into each other.

9. Yes male porn actors can and do wind up in magazines-when they were around, wind up escorting or being "massuses", do private online webcam or cybersex shows, and many do wind up going to all male strip clubs or bars that have strippers and performing shows there.

10. There's A LOT of editing in porn. In most porn no matter what type it is where there's anal sex they just show the penis going into someone's ass like it's a wet vagina, and in reality anal sex doesn't work that way and in most porns with anal sex they don't show you the anal sex done with fingers or toys to stretch out the ass hole before the penis is put into the anus. Sometimes the men and women who are in anal sex porns have been fucked, fisted, or very frequently take large toys up their ass or do this before the anal sex scene is shot.

11. Porn scenes usually take multiple days to shoot or even finish. Sometimes the director does not like what's going on, sometimes the actors get bitchy and think the universe revolves around them, sometimes someone cums too fast, and sometimes someone can't ejaculate at all and they use fake cum or have the guy cum and squirt it onto the other guy's body and edit it so it looks like he came from his penis onto that guy's body.

12.Making a porn or being in one, is actually pretty boring, and unless you're a major exhibitionist you're not going to like it and many people can't perform under the pressure of the cameras, with people all around and filming you and telling you everything that you have to do right then and there for them, and the very hot lights.

13. "Gay" for pay is just a myth and one that's based on marketing. The guys are really just bisexual or gay but they're marketed as being "straight", and sometimes they are married to women or other men and their spouse does know that they are in porn and is OK with it.

14. You don't become any sort of celebrity-even a minor one, from doing porn at all.

15. The porn biz is dying a fast death thanks to the internet and how there's tons of free porn online, and you don't have to buy porn only from a mail order company, directly from the company itself, or from an adult bookstore or porn video store anymore. A studio will make a new video and they know that a large percentage of people are going to just get it from the internet instead of actually buying the expensive DVD copy of it.

Long Duck Dong
Dec 5, 2011, 12:46 AM
8. Women fake their orgasms and sexual pleasure in both straight and "lesbian" porn. Men don't fake it but you can tell when the people in porn just aren't into each other.

11. Porn scenes usually take multiple days to shoot or even finish. Sometimes the director does not like what's going on, sometimes the actors get bitchy and think the universe revolves around them, sometimes someone cums too fast, and sometimes someone can't ejaculate at all and they use fake cum or have the guy cum and squirt it onto the other guy's body and edit it so it looks like he came from his penis onto that guy's body


they contradict each other...... if a guy doesn't fake it, then there would be no need to use fake cum or a stand in for the money shot.....

14. You don't become any sort of celebrity-even a minor one, from doing porn at all.

some of the american porn stars have headed the nz sexpo events and rode in the bare breasted bike rides to draw attention to breast cancer.... some have even gone on to become * celebrities * .... linda lovelace become a anti porn advocate and she starred in one of the first porn movies... deep throat


so I am curious, what role did you have in the porn industry ?? a actor, scenery prop, camera op, water boy ???

Bikash Pandey
Dec 5, 2011, 3:48 AM
drugstore cowboy seems to be far away from reality..
according to AUSTRALIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION
"For all the free porn that McKee and Cannold et al. talked about, Internet video sales rose from $2.8 billion in 2006 to $4.9 billion in 2009, and like all good capitalists, pornographers are on the lookout for new revenue streams and distribution channels.

One of the most popular seminars at the 2011 XBIZ Summit in Chicago was entitled "Adult Mobile: Markets, Metrics and Mechanics." According to Juniper Research, global porn revenues for hand-held devices could reach $49.9 billion by 2013, an increase of 75% over 2008...

ErosUrge
Dec 5, 2011, 3:15 PM
So many valid points made so far and some that I think are way off the mark in my opinion. Since I didn't read all the posts to this topic, forgive me if what I say here has already been covered. Don't know if what I have to say will be of interest to anyone but here goes.
First, there was a comment made that expressing emotions during the filming of these sexual encounters takes good acting; I disagree. I think the best porn whether straight, gay, bi, or whatever is when the people engaged in play are totally into the moment as though there are no cameras there.

I know that in most cases they are being directed, but the best performers are the ones who are totally into the sex where it's another encounter for them whether they're paid or not. In other words, it's the real deal and they are enjoying themselves like they would at any other time just as they would in private. I know they realize there are cameras there, but they get into the 'zone' so much that they are truly enjoying it and I would imagine that some of them get turned on even more knowing that they're being watched by whoever is in the room and knowing millions will see it later. It reminds me when I have been involved in group sex and when I've really been into it and am totally tuned in, it doesn't matter to me that there are others in the room; it only heightens the intensity of what's going on.

As far as gay porn (men with men) goes, I totally agree with some comments made that I read and it's rarely as sensual as women with women. Not all porn that has women with women is all that erotic either. Some of it is ridiculous and it's obvious they're being directed and it's a turn off listening to some of the things they say and the way they say them. And what's a drag is when it seems that they have no intelligence. And there are men who are equally lame and boring. In addition to this, many men are often totally mechanical which makes them even more of a bore to watch. And some of their cries and screams are a bit over the top....it's okay if it's real but when it's put on for the film, it's obvious. Then of course the real slick porn actors can be equally boring because they're too picture perfect. Though some of them are good and the sex is good, sometimes it seems a bit too removed from reality...again, this is all just my opinion.

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Feedback appreciated.

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