Being bi in a Nudist club

[lilme]

I visited a Nudist club in Europe just few weeks ago and found myself surprised by the lovely families who can play and have so much fun together. It was really exciting to watch MOM and her friend show interest in another Man, who was really having a good time getting his toy all nice and hard by rubbing cream all over himself. Now this was a family club and there were many young kids there also. Do we have this in this Country.

[JP1986UM]

OK, WHERE exactly is this club and what are the hours?:bigrin:

[jamieknyc]

I don't know what they do in Europe, but in the US nudist venues do not allow any type of sexual activity in public places.

[FinkDoodle]

The United States is a country founded by the Puritans - a religious group who was so fanatical about the evils of Sin that they were thrown out of England at the onset of winter to an unknown foreign land - which was basically, at the time, a death sentence.

Their values have never left the US, so it's highly doubtful you'll be finding anything with that kind of openminded sexuality within this country's boarders . . if that kind of thing works for you, I suggest you figure out a way to spend far more time in Europe :)

[tenni]

hmm
Well, just having a nudist (naturist) park in North America is a vanguard of a broader morality and a healthier perception of the human body. Those naturist that I know speak of the human body not being seen as dirty or obscene but a natural extension. I agree that excessive body contact is discouraged but I've seen two nudists hug and kiss near the community swimming pool just as you would see people in bathing suits. Public erections are discouraged and expected to be covered up if they happen.

There are naturist camps where sexual activity is more common and open in North America. Generally, that is frowned on and this is by people who have come from European naturists parks.

[FredinSJ]

Original Posting above:

"I visited a Nudist club in Europe just few weeks ago and found myself surprised by the lovely families who can play and have so much fun together. It was really exciting to watch MOM and her friend show interest in another Man, who was really having a good time getting his toy all nice and hard by rubbing cream all over himself. Now this was a family club and there were many young kids there also. Do we have this in this Country."
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The Original Poster of this topic raises some good questions.

1. Your bio says ---- "I am of Chinese origin, but American and I don't speak Chinese." Not an issue, but look further, please.

2. It would be helpful to know (as another member posted here) WHERE IS THIS CLUB? Different nations have different "legal ages;" different FAMILY NUDIST CLUBS have different "house rules." Same for ADULTS ONLY NUDIST CLUBS.

3. As a student of sociology & human behavior, I found there is plenty "family sex incest" in all countries, including the USA. It's part of human behavior to be "sexy." BUT LEAVE OUT THE UNDERAGE.

4. In some countries, intra family sex is plainly legal, above that country's legal age. Maybe STUPID or misguided.... but legal. In your case of an "organized Club," did you read their "house rules?" Any landed owner/manager of a Club will ask his members & guests to "follow the house rules," whatever they be.

5. Fact is, younger folk just aren't emotionally equipped to handle sex responsibly, whether with BF or strangers or relatives.... and so, if you can't take the heat, don't venture into the kitchen where you don't FIT IN. I believe that in context of this discussion, you need to dig deeper, to find your own comfort zone, and for hevvins sake, don't ye be breaking the law.... find another place to frolic and don't judge others..... because nobody really cares what YOU and I think. Many people do care what we "DO."

The caption was "Being bi" in a nudist club..... and "bi" is not the issue here.... possibly incest is the issue, or "parents instilling moral values, judgment and insight into their children."

Sexual behavior is ever more quickly changing.... we can recall before the American Sexual Revolution came, from effective birth control measures (pills & devices).... we had Puritan values..... the next Amerian Sexual Revolution has come, thanks to the Internet, with porno and instructional books, movies, classes. Now as I see it, "bisexual" people have equal rights in the US with Les Gay Bi Transexual persons. The next Revolution, the next Civil Rights Movement, is burgeoning as "consensual adult swingers" and as GSA = "Genetic Sexual Attraction," between/ among consenting adults (google the term). Or see Wikipedia: "GSA."

I might suggest that this whole inquiry goes back to the US Supreme Court's decisions about porno: First Amendment rights of free speech & free expression, don't include "hurting others" emotionally or otherwise. If that CLUB is allowing you as a tourist to attend, PLEASE CHECK first with your travel agent. It could bring you legal trouble, or FUN.... and at the nude venues where we attend.... it's only "consenting adults fun." Swingers who are enlightened--- just like to have sex, to learn about sex.... but they (adults) are able to do it in a fashion that "has some socially redeeming values."

The "other man" jerking off in a semi public place.... may need another look for the full story. Please share it here?

We look forward to learning more about that CLUB and its location and rules... and you can always (without judging others) ..... simply make like a tree and leave.... just say: "No thanks."

It's a constructive, happy search mode, to be seeking such CLUBS in the USA, but be be be careful for your own sake!

Venture on......

--FredinSJ

[LastGent]

FredinSJ, what was the point of listing lilme's ancestral origins? What did that have to do with the content of your post? Reposting profile factoids is entirely superfluous.

[lizard-lix]

There are several adult only swinger's nudist/naturist campgrounds here in TX.

I have not been to any of them, but some seem to be open to public sex (I ge some of their emailings).

One is a bit more family oriented and their rules include no public sex.

Most are not male bi friendly, they are much more female bi friendly (typical US swinger'e 'tude).

One, I believe is more BDSM based, so seems to be a lot more GLBT supportive (around here the BDSM community seems to be the most orientation accepting group)

[gahdeh10]

Just wanted to put my 2 cents in. We live the nudist lifestyle fulltime. I have raised 3 great kids the same way, ranging from 12 – 30. We taught them that sex and nudity is two different things as most real nudists do. We belong to a family nudist resort where sex is forbidden in the open. There is an adult nudist resort close by where just about anything goes. Single, bi, gay and straight are welcome there. I am bisexual, but the only one who knows about it, is my wife and our lovers. I wouldn’t tell them at our resort for fear of retribution. As far as hugging and kissing goes, everyone does that at our resort, but won’t go any farther. Unfortunately, being bi is still frowned upon by most of the people there. :(

[MrBisex]

I guess Europe is a much more friendly place when it comes to nudist clubs and sex in public.

[Trinity-Fl]

During the 4 years we lived as a threesum, we belonged to one of the best resorts in the world, Paradise Lakes,[http://www.paradiselakes.com]
As you can imagine, bisexuality was not well accepted. I don't remember ever seeing an "out" gay couple there. But we always went as a triad, put down our blankets together and sat in the pool side by side. Our male partner and I never held hands or anything like that but we were obviously three people together. :)

As several of the other posters have mentioned, this is not really about public sex but about what's appropriate for the environment in which you find yourself. Watching a guy massage his cock in a public place is distasteful to me. I don't think it's a "European" thing. It's a "taste" thing. We speak of Europe's more open attitude towards nudity and sex. (The recent case from NY about the maid seemed to hinge on not whether she was attacked or not but whether in the attacker's culture it was criminal.) Nakedness and sexual content in all types of media (such as advertising) seems more accepted.

So, I'd like to watch the guy masturbate (maybe even help him) but not with the kids in attendance. :)

CC

PS: There are more nudist resorts just east of Tampa than almost anywhere else in the world.

Caliente Resort

Cypress Cove Resort & Spa

Gulf Coast Resort

Lake Como Family Resort

Paradise Lakes

Riviera Naturist Resort

Roof Top Resort

Sunburst Family Resort

Sunnier Palms

Sunny Sands Resort

Sunsport Gardens

[NakedInSeattle]

Good response, Trinity....We too have been to a couple of the clubs/resorts that you mention (Caliente and Paradise). Caliente has really "improved" in the last few years with regard to swinging but still no open sex during the day in public - although I've seen a lot of underwater arm motion.

But alas, the bi guy is still way under the radar while the bi gal is greatly enjoyed.

[pasco_lol_cpl]

During the 4 years we lived as a threesum, we belonged to one of the best resorts in the world, Paradise Lakes,[http://www.paradiselakes.com]
As you can imagine, bisexuality was not well accepted. I don't remember ever seeing an "out" gay couple there. But we always went as a triad, put down our blankets together and sat in the pool side by side. Our male partner and I never held hands or anything like that but we were obviously three people together. :)

As several of the other posters have mentioned, this is not really about public sex but about what's appropriate for the environment in which you find yourself. Watching a guy massage his cock in a public place is distasteful to me. I don't think it's a "European" thing. It's a "taste" thing. We speak of Europe's more open attitude towards nudity and sex. (The recent case from NY about the maid seemed to hinge on not whether she was attacked or not but whether in the attacker's culture it was criminal.) Nakedness and sexual content in all types of media (such as advertising) seems more accepted.

So, I'd like to watch the guy masturbate (maybe even help him) but not with the kids in attendance. :)

CC

PS: There are more nudist resorts just east of Tampa than almost anywhere else in the world.

Caliente Resort

Cypress Cove Resort & Spa

Gulf Coast Resort

Lake Como Family Resort

Paradise Lakes

Riviera Naturist Resort

Roof Top Resort

Sunburst Family Resort

Sunnier Palms

Sunny Sands Resort

Sunsport Gardens
Well said. Oh and most of those resorts are within 5 miles of my house :bigrin:

[12voltman59]

I have been to a few of those resorts around Tampa but didn't realize there were so many----I was just in the Tampa area the other day but didn't have time to check any or them out.

The one thing with most of them as Trinity noted----those clubs tend to be members of the various "naturist" associations and as such--one of the tenets of those orgs is to promote that nudity is good and "wholesome" so they do very much frown on any sort of open display of anything that is even remotely sexual in nature is verboten.*

At most of the mainline "nudist" clubs--they do tend to be almost hyper heterosexual--so many of those places have a degree of being phobic about anything other than pure heterosexuality--even though--I have found when its "adult party time"--if a couple of women want to do some "bisexual exploration" like doing some hot making out--that is ok--but with guys anything of that sort----NO WAY!!!!

*In public and/or during the daytime hours with some exceptions taking place at night and in the context of "adult parties" where friskier forms of PDA are tolerated.

[LastGent]

I try to spend as much naked as possible, but I'm starting to think Illinois is too cold for nudist resorts, or too urbanized or too agrarian. Either there is not enough open space, or everything (south of Joliet) is impoverished farm land. Maybe I should build a high stone wall around my backyard and make my own nudist pad.

[r1648513]

No sex allowed in naturist/nudist clubs and spas, there are several swinger friendly clothing optional places in southern California with more open attitudes on sex, though from what I understand not too accepted of male bisexuality.

[NakedInSeattle]

r16, Don't tease. Give us the names of the clubs....LOL.

[pasco_lol_cpl]

I have been to a few of those resorts around Tampa but didn't realize there were so many----I was just in the Tampa area the other day but didn't have time to check any or them out.

The one thing with most of them as Trinity noted----those clubs tend to be members of the various "naturist" associations and as such--one of the tenets of those orgs is to promote that nudity is good and "wholesome" so they do very much frown on any sort of open display of anything that is even remotely sexual in nature is verboten.*

At most of the mainline "nudist" clubs--they do tend to be almost hyper heterosexual--so many of those places have a degree of being phobic about anything other than pure heterosexuality--even though--I have found when its "adult party time"--if a couple of women want to do some "bisexual exploration" like doing some hot making out--that is ok--but with guys anything of that sort----NO WAY!!!!

*In public and/or during the daytime hours with some exceptions taking place at night and in the context of "adult parties" where friskier forms of PDA are tolerated.
As a side note Paradise Lakes, Caliente, and Riverboat are no longer members of the AANR for that very reason. They know who butters their bread and don't want to turn away paying customers. Riverboat is a dive though.

[KevsBi]

Being bisexual on the beach is tough enough as it is as I'm always checking out the guys and girls...but a Nudist club? That would be just too much!!

[anned]

I don't know what they do in Europe, but in the US nudist venues do not allow any type of sexual activity in public places.
as a life long bi nudist in calif i know many venues in calif turn a blind eye to sexual activity as long as its not in the open.

When i was 9 i had oral sex with another 9 year boy at a nudist venue after we both had see older teen boys doing it.
At 11 i had sex with a 13 year old girl at another nudist venue.

I also know that it goes on in europe as my father worked for the US government in Germany and i had girls cop a feel many times while swimming nude and i always told them they could play with it any time.

now there is nude beaches and hot springs where just about anything goes as long as you are decreet.