married guys that want more

[jackbirdjay]

How many married guys out there that there wife's don't need or want sex as much as the guy? My wife and I have sex about 4 to 6 times a year I need more my hand Is getting tired.

[lizard-lix]

I am in the same boat (married monogamously 32 years, no cheating), I have no idea how you go 2 - 3 months in between! And yep, I watch a lot of porn and beat it a lot... I cyber a little too (she knows and knows I am bi)

I brought it up about 2 years ago and we have been working at having more sex and potentially trying swinging (we have been to a club twice, but no touching others so far).

She has been trying, but I am not sure her reduced libido will meet my still very active one. She has also seen the Doc about enhancing her libido, that helped a little, not a lot. One of the reasons I wanted to look at swinging was so she could have some fresh opportunities if she had gotten tired of me after this long. But that doesn't seem to be the case.

Finding a lover for me has been brought up, but we have not yet discussed details or looked over that edge, but it is there.

We really do love each other and don't want anything to happen to our relationship, so we keep working at it, talking about it and trying to work it out.. So far, no solutions, but we are still working on it together.

[bullhead69]

I am the opposite. My wife sex all the time, which is a good thing, but I am getting worn to a frazzle!!!

[john441963]

I'm in that situation...........Been together for bout 9 yrs. We are both in our 40's. Her libido has droped off signifigantly. Last yr we had sex bout 7 times (cause I pushed for it. if I never brought it up there would be NONE). I talked to her about it, she admits it. She went to the Dr but said nothing about it. I talked again to her and she is trying to do better. She has some health issues and I know thats part of it. Teenagers in the house that can figure out whats "going on in the bedroom" has had an effect I'm sure too. Doesn't mind me takining care of myself but..........my hand gets old too. lol Anyway we are doing alittle better this year. Up to 7-8 times already. She doesnt know my bi side ( though it should be in the back of her mind. I've hinted at how much I like cum shots. I eat her after cumming in her. Told her I look at all kinds of porn. Told her I've done mmf) or the deepest kinks I have. I think if my kinks were out, she would freak. When we were new in the relationship, I told her I wanted to explore sex/ kinks, hers and mine. We did some...... It seems she has no desire to do anymore exploring. Just vanilla sex.........

[jackbirdjay]

I'm in that situation...........Been together for bout 9 yrs. We are both in our 40's. Her libido has droped off signifigantly. Last yr we had sex bout 7 times (cause I pushed for it. if I never brought it up there would be NONE). I talked to her about it, she admits it. She went to the Dr but said nothing about it. I talked again to her and she is trying to do better. She has some health issues and I know thats part of it. Teenagers in the house that can figure out whats "going on in the bedroom" has had an effect I'm sure too. Doesn't mind me takining care of myself but..........my hand gets old too. lol Anyway we are doing alittle better this year. Up to 7-8 times already. She doesnt know my bi side ( though it should be in the back of her mind. I've hinted at how much I like cum shots. I eat her after cumming in her. Told her I look at all kinds of porn. Told her I've done mmf) or the deepest kinks I have. I think if my kinks were out, she would freak. When we were new in the relationship, I told her I wanted to explore sex/ kinks, hers and mine. We did some...... It seems she has no desire to do anymore exploring. Just vanilla sex.........
Yes me to eat her after. I told her I was bisexual when dating but I didn't act on it, even thou I have many times, to get her reaction. She was ok with it but didn't want a 3 way like I want. We had sex last night before last july before that feb.

[nudeorphic]

http://www.womentowomen.com/sexualityandfertility/menopause-sexdrive-libido.aspx

A woman's sexual life is very complex and can go through changes, pretty much dictated by biochemistry-hormones.
The subsequent hormonal changes can cause physical problems the article addresses. A woman may not want to discuss these issues because they are embarassing, or she feels like having failed in some ways-either way, it's not her fault, and compassion and understanding on the part of the man in her life will do wonders.
Alternative sexual practices can be encouraged versus vaginal sexual intercouse which may be painful and cause other problems as the article states. A married woman may be conditioned that vaginal sex is the only way to go-when there are other ways to please her mate such as simply, masturbation.
There are many other articles on the subject.

[bikiniman]

I too am in the 4-6 times a year category.

The other article on the website listed above is good reading as well.

http://www.womentowomen.com/menopause/rekindlingdesire-rebuildinglibido.aspx

It suggests that a women's sexual desire is based on how sexually desirable she feels. As husbands we obviously contribute to how sexually desirable our wives feel. Maybe the problem partly lies with us, maybe we can do more to help restore our wives' labido?

In my case I spend far to much time masturbating to porn, my wife knows that I do and I would suspect that this makes her feel inadequate. She probably thinks he'd rather masturbate than have sex with me. So I probably need to pull my finger out of my bum (and my favourite but plug and dildo) and pay her some more attention?

[ErosUrge]

Yes me to eat her after. I told her I was bisexual when dating but I didn't act on it, even thou I have many times, to get her reaction. She was ok with it but didn't want a 3 way like I want. We had sex last night before last july before that feb.

Sheesh!...I've got to hand it to you as I would never be able to continue if it were me. I did get involved at the beginning of the year with a woman who had all sorts of hangups about sex. Somehow I kept believing that this would change. When it got to be 2 months without it, I knew I was kidding myself that it would change. It was a bit painful to break it off but I was being honest with myself. Now things are quite fine as I am able to fulfill my appetites with both again and am fortunate enough to have that with a woman. Though it's only once a week, it's exquisite. We're not in a committed situation but are committed to giving each other pleasure when we get together. She knows I'm bi and that I am active. Since we aren't involved, it makes no difference to her. I hope things change for you as that's a pretty miserable place to be.

[adero08]

Maybe if you guys spent more time with yours wives spicing up the whole experience instead of looking outside the relationship for relief it wouldn't be so boring and sparse. Most of the time a wife wants it as bad as her husband does, but the husband might too interested in having things outside the relationship than having it inside the relationship. :disgust:

[john441963]

Maybe if you guys spent more time with yours wives spicing up the whole experience instead of looking outside the relationship for relief it wouldn't be so boring and sparse. Most of the time a wife wants it as bad as her husband does, but the husband might too interested in having things outside the relationship than having it inside the relationship. :disgust:

adero08 you are assuming I (we) neglect our wives. The fact is, I complemt her all the time. I give her hugs and get no response back. I try to spend time and listen to her day, EVERYDAY. I try to be there all the time for her. But, it gets very discouraging when she just isnt in the mood.........EVER. She admits she's not as interested in sex for several reasons. If I mention spicing things up I get the " you're such a pervert response" . It becomes "I'm the one with the problem......." She was interested in many sexual things early in our lives. The past few years have changed dramaticly! So you cant make a comment like you did with out hearing more about each one of us!

[Mr. Suck]

Maybe if you guys spent more time with yours wives spicing up the whole experience instead of looking outside the relationship for relief it wouldn't be so boring and sparse. Most of the time a wife wants it as bad as her husband does, but the husband might too interested in having things outside the relationship than having it inside the relationship. :disgust: I agree with your post, and if you are only having sex a few times a year then there's something wrong since your partner does not want to have sex with you. My male partner/husband and I are monogamous and we have an excellent relationship together and a sex life that fulfills both our needs, and we have sex daily multiple times a day.

[zigzig]

I can say that not having enough sex issue might come from both sides. In my marriage it's good, because me & my husband both have high libido. Sometimes I can feel the hormone change, when my period is coming. and I can say that hormones effect a lot my sexual appetite. So maybe the problem for women not wanting enough sex might be biological, and they feel to ashamed to go to a doctor. Other reason might be attractiveness, that men or women pick up weight, don't take care of their body enough, that a partner doesn't feel attracted anymore. With my parents it was similar, that my mother picked up weight after 3 kids, and dad liked skinny women. So in the end they divorced and now his second wife is a skinny female.

[Chris_t_boston]

Went from sex every three weeks, to sex every three months, to no sex for two years to sex twice per week. How?

Assuming there are no physical or mental issues with your spouse:

1 - Identify her needs. Get her to verbalize them.
2 - Meet those needs. Get her to confirm when you do. (Honey, remember when you said you needed non-sexual intimacy? Last night cuddling on the couch was pretty nice, wasn't it?")
3 - Continue this.
4 - Continue to try to initiate. Make her say no.

Maybe, just maybe, she subconsciously sees her needs being met and becomes more interested in sex with you. Continue this plan. If not...

5 - Confront. Let her know that you took her needs seriously and over the past x weeks have met those needs. Point out specifics.
6 - Explain to her that a "fulfilling, intimate sexual relationship" (not "sex") is needed in the marriage. Without it a marriage won't work. As her why she doesn't want to have one.
7 - Watch for these answers: "I'm not interested in sex.", "I'm too old.", "I'm too tired." Tell her you've decided to quit your job because you're too old, tired or just not interested in working and ask if doing so will make the marriage stronger. I'm sure the answer is no.
8 - Watch for comments like "all you think about is sex". DO NOT be embarrassed about having a libido. Tell her you are interested in a "fulfilling, intimate sexual relationship" with her.
9 - Explain that if she can't meet this need, you will become (if you aren't already) frustrated and resentful and less likely to be able to meet her needs and the marriage will ultimately fail.
10 - Divorce MUST be an option. Otherwise you will never reach sexual fulfillment with her since she has no incentive to change.

Just my opinion, but it worked for me.

[stonebow]

I am in the same boat (married monogamously 32 years, no cheating), I have no idea how you go 2 - 3 months in between! And yep, I watch a lot of porn and beat it a lot... I cyber a little too (she knows and knows I am bi)

I brought it up about 2 years ago and we have been working at having more sex and potentially trying swinging (we have been to a club twice, but no touching others so far).

She has been trying, but I am not sure her reduced libido will meet my still very active one. She has also seen the Doc about enhancing her libido, that helped a little, not a lot. One of the reasons I wanted to look at swinging was so she could have some fresh opportunities if she had gotten tired of me after this long. But that doesn't seem to be the case.

Finding a lover for me has been brought up, but we have not yet discussed details or looked over that edge, but it is there.

We really do love each other and don't want anything to happen to our relationship, so we keep working at it, talking about it and trying to work it out.. So far, no solutions, but we are still working on it together.

As long as you are both committed to working out a solution to this dilemma you are on a good footing. My ex and I were hopelessly incompatible sexually, and in many other ways. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you both.

[Lynn731]

Same here, only no sex since she went through the change. I met a good friend that likes to fool around, and I jack off a lot and eat my cum.

[kenjacks51]

I have been with and married to the same wonderful lady since 1976. It's a long story but like most women ( or so it seems ), her desire for sex has faded and aside from her helping me jerk off ( she's REALLY good at that too!! ), we have not had penetrative sex in probably two years. Regular love making has been a thing f the past for probably six or seven years when menopause entered the scene at much too young of an age.
We had a good sex life - threesomes before we were married soft swinging and I discovered my Dominant side when we got into B&D and Dom/sub play which we both enjoyed. I told her years ago that i wanted to have sex with another guy with her there and during our soft swing days, there was lots of same sex touching which reinforced my acceptance that I am bisexual. Only during our last meeting with another couple did I finally get up the courage to suck and I came away unsure as to whether I really liked it or not.
Our sex life came to a literal end and I have a high sex drive which was driving me crazy. I resorted to porn and fantasies and I realized that as time passed, I was gravitating more and more towards bi porn and then three years ago, I started watching gay porn. The porn fueled my desire to have sex with a guy but I knew that a vanilla homosexual experience was not what I wanted at all. I wanted a masculine, straight guy who had submissive tendencies as it seems that many bi guys do like the sub role. I advertised on Craigslist repeatedly over a period of time and then I met the right guy and I have never looked back.
I have not been with many different men - maybe five or six, but I know now that I am definitely bi with strong gay leanings. I still enjoy the softness of a woman and I still like women, but when it comes to just sex, I'll take a guy hands down now. Two of the guys who I met ( including the first one who is due to arrive here at my home momentarily to talk and visit ) have become steady FWB play mates and that is all that I want. I am still as in love with my wife as I have ever been and there is no romance with my bois, but the sex is such a huge stress reliever and it just seems to get better as the guys get more into it.
I guess that if I was single, I'd probably date women but my preferences are towards having a steady male playmate. I was with the second guy yesterday when he showed up unexpectedly and it was so good.. we talked and he admitted that he is definitely bi and into what we do and says that there are times when he is having sex with a woman, that he can;t cum unless he thinks about and visualizes being with me. Yesterday was the first time that he outright begged to suck and when guys say that guys give better head than women, they are oh so right!
Do I have any regrets? No. My wife is well aware that I have stopped pestering her for sex and she commented recently that she knows that her failure to satisfy me has caused me to turn to "other things". She did not elaborate and her comment took me totally by surprise. She isn't stupid and I am fairly sure that she knows and allows me to play. We will be talking about this and hopefully, she will consent to having the occasional threesome again where she will get some fresh cock and I'll share it with her.

[kitten]

Married 32 years. Love my hubby. many times when he wanted it more than me and I tried to keep up and he never complained. As the years are turning, he is the one with less desire and want it allll the time. He has health issues, I understand. We have an agreement that we are open with our relationship as long as we are discreet. I actually met a gentleman in the same position as me. His spouse has medical issues and never wants sex. We now have a discreet relationship for sexual fulfillment as well as its nice to have someone to talk to about sexual things without the eye roll, without the comments, without the deep sighs. Best wishes to you and hope it all works out.

[BareProf]

Aren't we a sad bunch....

My wife is still lovely, spends an hour each morning before work enhancing her beauty, can go without a bra and keeps her pussy waxed. We used to swing. I have joyfully watched her suck another guy's cock, spread her legs for him and fuck away. With my encouragement she tried bi and loved both licking a pussy and being licked by a pussy. We sleep nude, sometimes shower together and skinny dip in our pool. She used to give me blow jobs in my sports car. Used to.

So what happened now that we fuck only three times a year? She became a young grandmother and focuses 90% of her attention at her daughter and grandkids. I've told her this and got a "So?"

So I watch porn, jerk off and lick my cum off my hand instead of out of her pussy. Damn!

[kenjacks51]

Aren't we a sad bunch....

My wife is still lovely, spends an hour each morning before work enhancing her beauty, can go without a bra and keeps her pussy waxed. We used to swing. I have joyfully watched her suck another guy's cock, spread her legs for him and fuck away. With my encouragement she tried bi and loved both licking a pussy and being licked by a pussy. We sleep nude, sometimes shower together and skinny dip in our pool. She used to give me blow jobs in my sports car. Used to.

So what happened now that we fuck only three times a year? She became a young grandmother and focuses 90% of her attention at her daughter and grandkids. I've told her this and got a "So?"

So I watch porn, jerk off and lick my cum off my hand instead of out of her pussy. Damn!

My heart honestly goes out to you and you are right - "So what happened?" My wife and I used to party with another couple and enjoyed D/s and B&D as she is very submissive. Three years ago, in frustration, I crossed the line and today I am very much bisexual with a definite sexual preference for masculine yet submissive men. I've limited my homosexual activities to just two guys who I have met, turned and trained each to be my boi and honestly, the sex is awesome!

My wife is very pretty and she still turns me on but she has no desire for sex at age 51. She entered menopause in her mid forties which is early and as much as I want to feel her around me as we make love, I'm finding that I am losing interest in making love to her and enjoying my bois more and more just as they are getting more and more into the homosexual stuff. She was shaved since I shaved her just after we met but in the last year, has let her pubic hair grow back and frankly, I find it to be a major turn off and once she quit shaving,my interest in sex with her really faded fast. Some may think me selfish and a cheater but my sex drive is still high at age 62 and though I do not get together with either boi often enough ( once every six to eight weeks each ), we are getting along better because I no longer ask her for sex. Morally, I know that what am doing is wrong but the alternative would be the end of an otherwise fantastic marriage and relationship that has lasted 34 years.

So don't feel alone. I ask myself the same question and when I think about the fact that if we still had a sex life, I'd never have strayed, I get frustrated and I hurt. Do I feel guilty? Yes, to a degree, but as time passes, the guilt lessens and my enjoyment of this form of sexual release intensifies and becomes more enjoyable. I am not pointing fingers because I am likely at least partly to blame somehow, but a part of me deep inside wishes that things could go back to just her and I as it should be. I've accepted the fact that I am on the road to becoming exclusively gay despite the fact that I still admire and lust after women. But guys are just less complex sexually and also, more discreet than many women. I have no desire to be with another woman and will not do that and I wish that my wife would consent to join me in exploring my bi side, but that is never going to happen. She knows of my bi urges and we have talked about me finding a guy to play with even though that is already done - but I;d feel much better if I had her blessing.

I guess that what mystifies me and actually irks me the most is that when the woman's libido crashes, most women seem to expect their men to simply shut down right along with them. being forced to resort to porn and eating your own cum and being pushed away to where sex with a member of your own sex becomes a viable option doesn't seem fair to me. I wish someone could explain to me just what a man should do when his mate cuts him off because she doesn't feel like making love again and when he finds release from another person of either sex, he becomes the bad guy. if I sound a bit angry, I apologize - I am not angry - just frustrated.

[Lovejoy2]

Been reading all of these and what my situation is that my significant other is Bi, but he doesn't think that I know about it. Because of this he has contacted the Hep C virus. He is not "active" with the Hep C right now, but he denied having contacted it through having sex with another male. Just said he didn't know how he contacted it. I do, because he had a 4-way. My question is why do men start this? Especially when I absolutely love sex with him. We used to have sex all the time but for the last 2 years zilch. He is on the road a lot for his work and that is where he has been connecting up with others. I have no desire to watch or to become Bi myself. But him not wanting to have sex with me just depresses me and I know he is getting it elsewhere.

[HappyHedonic]

I'm one of the many men who found the sex tapering off as the years of marriage went by. Everything else in the marriage was great, but she was just not wanting sex. A box of condoms are not supposed to see their expiration date. Even though I was beating off every night to porn on the computer I was still feeling so pent up, so much wanting a real human connection that I had to do something radical to my marriage.....communicate.

I sat her down and had a long heart to heart with her. Told her about my feelings for her, my needs not being met and not blaming her for it, my desires for kink, men, diversity, more frequency, etc. She took it very well, accepted me for who I am, loved me more for my honesty and trusting her with my feelings. The first step was complete, it was all out in the open. Next step, the solution; polyamory.

As she came to the realization that I was still the same loving husband that she married but not on the same wavelength sexually, it was logical that we should open up our marriage to be able to fuck people that are on the same wavelength and still stay together in the little cottage with the picket fence and hold hands on the sofa while watching Netflix. It's been two years now and our marriage is stronger than ever. I get to be a bisexual horndog and not have to lie and cheat about it.

I know a lot of guys out there will read this and think "yeah, but my wife would never go for that", to which I say you think your wife would never go for it but as in all human relationships it's all in how you communicate and approach someone in negotiating your relationship. There are excellent resources out there on polyamory, ethical sluttery, communication and negotiation in relationships, and the like, so do some research and educate yourself. Then do some soul searching, mediation, introspection, whatever and really get to know yourself and what you need. If you really do need to have more sex, and your spouse can/will not, then it's time to build up the courage to talk about the logic of either opening up your marriage or ending it. Or do nothing at all and suffer in quiet desperation as you watch the years of your life slip by while lacking in one of the greatest joys of human existence (sex).

[kenjacks51]

To the lady poster above:
I'm sad for your situation which I get the sense is probably bordering on the critical mark. Why do men have sex with other men? What prompted me to do itat age 59? There was something inside me for a long time that wanted out and I fought it and denied it for mostof my life. It wasn't until experimenting with swinging and my first real adult m/m touching and fondling made me finally have to acknowledge that this was a part of me that was real and I have no idea where it came from. I was never molested or abused at any time sexually so that rules that out - for myself at least.

Honestly, it was pornography that I fed this part of me with and in retrospect, it was a very slow, methodical swing from straigh to lesbian to bi and then outright gay stuff and today, it's all of the above. It started with Penthouse magazine and today, I have what ever I want in front of me on my monitor. My wife and I used to watch xxx videos with all manner of content from straight to some gay and transexual which we both enjoyed. We bought and read "Options" magazine ( a now defunct little magazine that dealt supposedly with bi sex but the "letters" or stories were all m/m or f/f ) together and interestingly enough, I used to notice that she would get wet the fastest with m/m stories. We had m/m/f threesomes when we first started living together and she loved the attention but there was no m/m sexual contact. She agreed to a m/m/f threesome with one guy who we met and she knew that he wanted me to Dominate and use him and she seemed to like that idea. Then one day she just shut down and that was it. So I understand to some degree how you feel.

Let me say that I am not blaming porn for my transition from straight to bi with strong gay leanings. It fed the process as I said but the actual part of me that would eventually emerge was, I believe, just simply always there and simply a part of who I am. I am very happily married to a wonderful, dedicated and faithful wife but menopause quelched her sex drive and frustration was what finaly made me cross the line for the first time and I did so with a lot of reluctance and guilt at first. A strong sex drive can be a curse and there comes a time when masturbation and fantasies and porn just don't do it any more.

I'd strongly suggest that you both ( or even just you if he wont go ) seek counselling and really begin to try to talk to your husband about this issue because I know that no matter how much you love him and he loves you, you guys are on a long, slippery slope right now and without talking and understanding and working things out with professional help and between you, this most likely will not have a happy ending. Your frustration is quite evident and you are justified in feeling like you do. But you both need to talk and with all due respect, you probably should have acknowledged his bi side when you first realized he had these urges and somehow accomodated him, thus encouraging him to keep things between set limits and parameters. I am NOT blaming you - please understand that. Tooo many lessons learned inlife are realized too late to avoid damage. I am suure that you did your best out of love for him and you did whatyou felt in your heart was best. it is NOT your fault or at least NOT yours alone.

My wife is well aware that I hve these urges but she does not know that I have them satisfied safely from time to time in ways that she and I used to share and enjoy. I have told her that I would like to find a male playmate just for sex and asked her how she would feel about me having my needs met outside of our marriage. her comment was simply, "I don't know how I'd handle that". So it would seem that because she no longer wants sex, that she thinks that i can just shut down too - which is not possible.

I understand that your situation is different in that you were doing your conjugal duties but obviously, like yours truly, he had deep seated needs and he was likely afraid to talk to you about them. So he crossed over and believe me when I say as a man that once it has happened once, there is no going back or stopping unless the person has exceptionally strong will power and is prepared to fight this and suffer with it forever. I do not like what I have become but it is how things are and it does satisfy something inside me that no woman can.

My heart really does go out to the both of you and again I urge you to take some steps to initiate damage control or you could well lose everything that you both have worked to build in this life and I wouldn't wish that on anyone. I wish you well and much success in dealing with this crisis and please keep us updated as to how things go. There is a lot of experience and knowledge here on this site and a lot of people will try to help in any way that they can.

[kenjacks51]

I'm one of the many men who found the sex tapering off as the years of marriage went by. Everything else in the marriage was great, but she was just not wanting sex. A box of condoms are not supposed to see their expiration date. Even though I was beating off every night to porn on the computer I was still feeling so pent up, so much wanting a real human connection that I had to do something radical to my marriage.....communicate.

I sat her down and had a long heart to heart with her. Told her about my feelings for her, my needs not being met and not blaming her for it, my desires for kink, men, diversity, more frequency, etc. She took it very well, accepted me for who I am, loved me more for my honesty and trusting her with my feelings. The first step was complete, it was all out in the open. Next step, the solution; polyamory.

As she came to the realization that I was still the same loving husband that she married but not on the same wavelength sexually, it was logical that we should open up our marriage to be able to fuck people that are on the same wavelength and still stay together in the little cottage with the picket fence and hold hands on the sofa while watching Netflix. It's been two years now and our marriage is stronger than ever. I get to be a bisexual horndog and not have to lie and cheat about it.

I know a lot of guys out there will read this and think "yeah, but my wife would never go for that", to which I say you think your wife would never go for it but as in all human relationships it's all in how you communicate and approach someone in negotiating your relationship. There are excellent resources out there on polyamory, ethical sluttery, communication and negotiation in relationships, and the like, so do some research and educate yourself. Then do some soul searching, mediation, introspection, whatever and really get to know yourself and what you need. If you really do need to have more sex, and your spouse can/will not, then it's time to build up the courage to talk about the logic of either opening up your marriage or ending it. Or do nothing at all and suffer in quiet desperation as you watch the years of your life slip by while lacking in one of the greatest joys of human existence (sex).

WOW!!! Now you said a lot there in a few words and you are right on the money regarding communication. your situation sounds much like my own and my plan is to approach this subject again with my wife and hopefully, either get her blessings to find what I need safely or better yet, have her at my side as idoit. I have two guys who I see occasionally and both are safe and one is attached - the other going through a divorce. I would so like a threeway with the one guy and I suggested it awhile back, but she flat refused as she knows the man. The other guy is really hung and no longer married, so I'd be reluctant to allow him into our bedroom - I guess I am a bit insecure as he is younger than I am and very nicely hung. I know that she'd really like what he has but withhim being on the rebound, I worry that he may push the limits with her as she is attractive and a very nice person. She actually has met both guys and she likes them both, so I am going to try. I amhappy for you that you and your wife got things sorted out and I can understand your marriage being stronger now than it was. When my wife and I tried swinging, the experience did the same to us - hmmmmm.. now there's something worth mentioning to her.:rolleyes:

but I do so agree with you about communication and honesty. You put everything into perspective very well there and I thank you for doing so. It's good to read something positive about this misunderstood life style for a change.