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NotLostJustWandering
Jul 6, 2011, 7:21 PM
http://transferstn.posterous.com/canadian-arab-federation-to-toronto-city-coun

The Canadian Arab Federation press release recognizes Toronto's gay community as "a vibrant part" of the city's cultural panorama, but also "a vulnerable one."

Meanwhile, other organizations sit silently by while thugs descend on Pride Toronto HQ (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x349592).

"Toronto City Council should resist pressure to impose on gay Pride organizers requirements that it would not impose on less vulnerable communities."

This announcement is certainly welcome, but why is CAF alone in pointing out LGBT communities are still vulnerable? Are other groups "Post-Ally"?

The most disturbing part of the "Israeli Apartheid" at Pride debate is the willingness of individuals and organizations to callously disregard the hate and discrimination experienced by the queer community because they oppose the inclusion of a single group in a four hour Parade.

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Canadian Arab Federation

La Fédération Canado-Arabe

PRESS RELEASE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

June 17, 2011

Toronto City Council Upholds Free Speech

The Canadian Arab Federation (CAF) applauds Toronto City Council for upholding the fundamental right to free speech which is important to any democratic society that wishes to remain so.



At their meeting on June 16, Council voted to adopt the recommendation of the Executive Committee to accept the City Manager’s Report that determined the phrase 'Israeli Apartheid' does not violate Toronto’s Anti-Discrimination Policy, Ontario’s Human Rights Code, or Canada’s Criminal Code regarding hate speech. The Manager’s report also concluded that the participation of Queers Against Israeli Apartheid (QUAIA) in the Pride Parade does not violate the City’s Anti-Discrimination Policy.



CAF knows that some of those Toronto City Councillors who voted to accept the Manager’s report do not quite agree that Israeli laws and practices gravely discriminate against Palestinians, and therefore appreciates their principled stand for firmly opposing attempts to silence the growing number of Torontonians who view Israel as an Apartheid state.



Torontonians have a right to voice criticism of any country or government that they feel morally obliged to criticize. They should be able to do so without being accused of discriminating against Canadians who identify with that country or who have blood ties to it.



Toronto’s gay community is a vibrant and colourful part of Toronto’s cultural panorama, but also a vulnerable one. It is therefore no coincidence that the pro-Israel lobby has chosen Toronto’s gay community as a testing ground for its broader ongoing attempts to silence critics of Israel. Hence, Toronto City Council should resist pressure to impose on gay Pride organizers requirements that it would not impose on less vulnerable communities.



CAF calls on Toronto City Council to disburse Pride’s funding before Pride Week, as it used to prior to meddling by pro-Israel lobbyists, since it would be discriminatory for Council to single out Pride Week for postponement of funding and for onerous requirements to prove its compliance with the City’s Anti-Discrimination Policy.



QuAIA itself has not violated the City’s Anti-Discrimination Policy. Therefore Pride Week organizers should not be pressured to prevent QuAIA from participating in Pride Parades by the threat of funding cuts or delays. Nor should Pride be expected to impose prior censorship on those wishing to participate in the Parade.





www.caf.ca





Established in 1967, the Canadian Arab Federation is a national, non-partisan, non profit and membership-based organization. CAF represents Canadian Arabs on issues relating to public policy.

look4one
Jul 6, 2011, 10:03 PM
I have my :2cents: to say, BUT...


Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?

I seen you 'round for a long long time
I really 'membered you when you drink my wine

Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?

I seen you walkin' down in Chinatown
I called you but you could not look around

Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?

I bring my money to the welfare line
I see you standing in it every time

Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?

The color of your skin don't matter to me
As long as we can live in harmony

Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?

I'd kinda like to be the President
so I can show you how your money's spent

Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?

Sometimes I don't speak too bright
but yet I know what I'm talking about

Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?

I know you're working for the CIA
they wouldn't have you in the Mafia

Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?

Why can't we be friends?
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Why can't we be friends?

Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?

Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
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Why can't we be friends?

Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?

look4one
Jul 6, 2011, 10:07 PM
Sorry, all I want to say is that why can't we tolerate each other? Why can't we just live in peace?

We all come from somewhere, where we were prosecuted for what and who we are, or what we believe in... so at the end of the day, whether you are a 'faggot' or a 'holy' person, we ALL came to this continent (yes America included) for a better life where everyone is supposed to be treated EQUALLY regardless of race, sexual orientation, beliefs, etc etc etc etc etc.

NotLostJustWandering
Jul 6, 2011, 10:27 PM
I'm still waiting for an artist buddy of mine in Cairo to draw me the T-shirt I want to wear:

An Orthodox Jew and a Palestinian, indistinguishable except for their clothes, smoking a bong, red-eyed and laughing amidst a pile of munchies.

Caption: "why can't we all just get a bong?"

Bi-Zarro
Jul 6, 2011, 10:56 PM
I'm still waiting for an artist buddy of mine in Cairo to draw me the T-shirt I want to wear:

An Orthodox Jew and a Palestinian, indistinguishable except for their clothes, smoking a bong, red-eyed and laughing amidst a pile of munchies.

Caption: "why can't we all just get a bong?"

I'd buy that.

NotLostJustWandering
Jul 7, 2011, 6:03 AM
I'd buy that.

I'll get on his case and let him know the shirt is back-ordered.

NotLostJustWandering
Jul 7, 2011, 7:37 AM
Anyway, to bring this back on-topic, I think the story is food for thought for those who would stereotype Arabs and Muslims as homophobes, and a reminder that there are Jewish terrorists out there, too. In fact, the last time the FBI published the stats, there were MORE acts of terrorism committed in the USA by the Jewish Defense League and their ilk than all Muslim extremist groups combined.

tenni
Jul 7, 2011, 8:45 AM
There are several statements in the press release that are not supported as fact but opinion. The political aspects of this conflict put two minorities against each other. The granting aspects of Toronto city council are either agreeing with one discriminated group or the other and then dispersing money based upon who is "right". The following part of the press release is problematic.
"Torontonians have a right to voice criticism of any country or government that they feel morally obliged to criticize. They should be able to do so without being accused of discriminating against Canadians who identify with that country or who have blood ties to it."

There is mixed messages in this message. Sadly this issue of determining who is "best" is being used to discriminate against Pride events. The Pride organization is threatened with losing grant money because they are permitting anti semetic statements to be made /said in the parade. Whether these statements are anti semetic or "truth" about an oppressor needs to be made and maybe should not be forced to be made. The question is whether gay people should be supporting other oppressed people to the point of damaging their own cause for visibility and whatever else the Pride organization still needs correcting enough to march. What was once a protest by a minority(GLBT) has become a celebration to a greater extent than a protest about discrimination. Trying to decide on which side that you want to support makes my head spin...lol

tommyswing
Jul 7, 2011, 11:25 AM
When I first read this I thought this may have come from the Onion. For some I would suggest they live openly gay in any Arab country or any Palestinian territory. I also believe as absurd as the whole idea is, they have the right to their protest even if it is offensive.
The idea of the protest is so absurd, I can't be bothered to address it. In the US freedom of speech is our most important liberty, speech should always be protected.

tenni
Jul 7, 2011, 5:26 PM
Tommy
A few points of correction in your understanding.
1/ No one is stating that the group may not protest the treatment of Palestinians by Israel. The QFP are protesting the treatment of Palestinians (officially the GLBT people but in reality all Palestinians).
The city that funds the Pride parade is stating that they do not want to fund a parade Pride & events if this group is involved. They are accusing the Queers for Palestine of being bigots for protesting the way that Israel treats Palestinians.

2/ The Queers for Palestine are supporting GLBT in Palestine as well with their protest. (in the minds of QFP) that is the way that I understand it.
Officially the QFP withdrew from the parade so that the Pride events would get their money. Some people were in the parade as allegedly were making calls about the mistreatment of GLBT Palestinians by Israel.


When I first read this I thought this may have come from the Onion. For some I would suggest they live openly gay in any Arab country or any Palestinian territory. I also believe as absurd as the whole idea is, they have the right to their protest even if it is offensive.
The idea of the protest is so absurd, I can't be bothered to address it. In the US freedom of speech is our most important liberty, speech should always be protected.

tommyswing
Jul 7, 2011, 5:29 PM
I should make sure I'm fully awake before I reply. Thanks for the correction