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Katja
Jun 30, 2011, 3:22 PM
In chat and in forums every so often the subject of whether we are shaved or natural, trimmed or whatever arises. It never seems to arise in real life but it may be that I am deaf to it.

A couple of months ago I read an article which suggested that those of use who like people who are hairless and smooth have a suppressed paedophilia or at the very least have an interest in the child fantasy when choosing lovers or choosing to remove all of their body hair. I have given this some thought occasionally over the last month or two, but I can't say I have come to a conclusion, but there may be a germ of truth in it.

I am not bodily hairless although I do wax but retain some pubic hair. I do this because I like the look and no other reason and wild pubic hair is so unnattractive, although many people don't seem to mind.

I was well brought up and making personal comments and asking questions about a prospective partner's body hair I deem somewhat too personal and a little offensive and never been asked about mine. Somehow the mystery of what a partner reveals when unwrapped is a joy although I do admit that occasionally joy is anything but the word I would use.

I don't mind those who have removed all of their body hair, indeed prefer it to those who are completely unkempt. The smooth naked feel of the newly waxed especially is very nice indeed, but stubble is a bit much to take sometimes. Hairy armpits on a woman are a turn off, although I dont mind on a man. I hate Mr Orang Utan who is so hairy that I can hardly see his flesh. The feel turns my stomache, but don't mind a man who has what I deem a reasonable amount of hair on his chest. Both men and women who trim their pubic area I adore, and find this most attractive of all, especially in women who have artistically waxed or shaven their pubic hair into some smart design.

Returning to the issue of suppressed paedophilia or child fantasy, that it is something psychological which deep inside us may have a ring of truth, but I doubt that many of us are actually closet paedophiles and wish to fuck with children or in reality be the child ripe for plucking. I simply dont ask how people are underneath and expect to find whatever I expect to find. A person who is shaven, waxed, trimmed, patterned, or natural. Regarding hygeine, usually we glean something of that by peoples general demeanor the more so the closer we get.

It is however an interesting subject to think about and is rarely discussed in polite company. How much of what we do with our body hair is hygeine and aesthetics? And how much is it something altogether quite different? Or is there some deeper psychological meaning to why we care or not for our bodily hair in the way we do?

Realist
Jun 30, 2011, 5:40 PM
I've heard people say things about liking a shaved lover is an indication of pedophilia, too. In my view, that statement's poor reasoning. I have no trouble determining if a person is a child, or not!

Whether it was my wanting to hold onto my youth, or what, I was the only one of my friends who wasn't feeling "like I'd become a man" when the first signs of my pubic hair appeared. I really disliked it and, for some time after it began growing in, I plucked it. Other boys would tease me about being immature...... they didn't know I was removing it and I didn't care what they thought. Finally, it began growing in faster than I could deal with it, so I gave up.

My first wife shaved; she was the first girl I knew who did. I always liked the look, too. Since the '60s, most of the male lovers I've had, trimmed close, or shaved. Now, my GF shaves, she's cool.

Hephaestion
Jun 30, 2011, 7:54 PM
Which lunatic dreamt that one up?

I depilate out of necessity, especially when the moon is full and I have the urge to howl high on the hillside in silhouette.

Gearbox
Jun 30, 2011, 8:11 PM
I'm naturally smooth.:( I think that's why I love body hair on others. Also (now it's mentioned) I think body hair is a sign of adulthood, and that attracts me too, on both m&f but m to a higher degree.
I am turned off with shaven pubes. It looks so un-sexual and unnatural to me, but I do trim though (makes my cock look bigger.lol).

Can we say "TWINKS"?:rolleyes: God bless em all, but they are just legal age boys to me. I KNOW I'm a hypocrite because I would have loved a mature bloke to 'educate' me in my teens, but now I'm older I think it's a little too close to paedophilia.
I apologise for that! But that's how I see it. Some don't even look legal age. I won't touch no male under 38yo, so yes I'm probably a bit wacky there.lol
I'd go low as 25 for f's.:rolleyes:

But yes, no man can have too much hair for my liking. Women need to do those legs though! I hate being out-haired by a woman.:bigrin:

djones
Jun 30, 2011, 8:14 PM
The basic premiss sounds like unfounded "psychological theory".

I prefer less hair on a partner - and myself. If I want to clean my teeth, I prefer floss to pubic hair.

My feelings toward pubic hair are esthetic and practical, not perverted.

Katja
Jun 30, 2011, 8:26 PM
Which lunatic dreamt that one up?

I depilate out of necessity, especially when the moon is full and I have the urge to howl high on the hillside in silhouette.

You really do have to bring that under control, darling. I know a man who uses silver bullets and would love to have a pot at such as you.;)

tenni
Jun 30, 2011, 9:16 PM
I find that the question of body hair is discussed a lot more than fifteen to twenty years ago. Like djones states there are certain practical aspects of sex play and people expect not to have to take pubes out of their teeth....to a certain degree. Shaving and trimming is so much more common today. Gee, some make it a fashion statement.

Back in the day, I remember getting to know a lover at the beginning. It was winter and somehow I saw her pits before we got totally naked (she was ol fashioned and expected at least five dates before naked play). My eyes must have opened when I saw her hairy pits. It had been awhile since I had been with a woman who didn't shave her pits. She made a firm statement that is the way that it was and I had better get use to it. Sly me(not always dumb) said that it didn't matter to me whether she shaved or not. Of course, the next time I saw her, her pits were shaved even though it was January. Up here, some women may shave their legs a bit less often in Nanuck weather...lol

I'd rather the person was not totally shaved. I'm hairy and like another hairy guy...not so much with women though. I've found many women like to twirl the hair on my chest. It has been referred to as soft, plentiful and pleasant...lol

mikey3000
Jun 30, 2011, 9:31 PM
I have to laugh when I hear people say it's "cleaner" with no pubes. Geez, if I'm gonna have my mouth on their genetalia, a stray hair isn't gonna ruin it for me.

But I do prefer hair. To me it's more mature, just tidy it up a little. Shaved genitals is a huge turn off for me as it does look rather childish. It brings bach memories of changing loaded diapers!! Blah!!

NotLostJustWandering
Jun 30, 2011, 10:02 PM
Funny, I've always preferred less hair to more in my lovers, but never shaved my body til I found a lover (male) who demanded it. This was just last year. It made me look way younger, did wonders for my self-image. My natural look resembles a chimp. :eek: I have found that I prefer how it feels, as well. Much cooler in the summer. Sadly my work as a massage therapist demands I leave the hair on my hands and arms. Had a client complain about rough stubble once, and I had only shaved a few hours earlier! I guess I'm a living rebuttal to the myth that marijuana decreases testosterone levels. :bigrin:

I do leave a bit of hair around the genitals and pits, though, for aesthetics and avoiding stubble pain where it hurts the most. :eek:

As for those who call this pedophiliac, to hell with them. I put them in the same category as those who call me racist for not being attracted to all races of people.

mboobs
Jul 1, 2011, 12:14 AM
i never had a lot of body hair before but now i have none. i prefer it that way on myself. on others i really don't care one way or the other. i've been with both men and women who shaved their whole bodies always their own choice and i have shaved a few womens pubes [at their request]. i did find shaving someone else very sexy and we always finished with glorious sex after.

i don't have to shave my body, the hormones that i take get rid of it for me and i only need to epilate my legs every three months so i don't have the stubble problem. only my face and pubes needs shaving regularly even though the hair is only light. i usually shave my groin when i know i am going to have sex.

Long Duck Dong
Jul 1, 2011, 3:52 AM
slightly off topic, but this was something I was reading today about the effects of shaving the lower regions....

its a article so I have a open mind about how valid it is... but it rises some interesting points

Pubic-scarring-concern/ (http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/5219706/Pubic-scarring-concern/)

Hephaestion
Jul 1, 2011, 4:49 AM
You really do have to bring that under control, darling. I know a man who uses silver bullets and would love to have a pot at such as you.;)

On the basis of the interpretation below - my arse is fair game to your friend any day or night.


http://www.myspace.com/search/music?q=Fairport Convention%20-%20The Bonny Black Hare&ac=t

[ From: http://www.metrolyrics.com/the-bonny-black-hare-lyrics-fairport-convention.html ]

On the fourteenth of May at the dawn of the day
With my gun on my shoulder to the woods I did stray
In search of some game if the weather proved fair
To see could I get a shot at the bonny black hare
Oh, I met a young girl there with her face as a rose
And her skin was as fair as the lily that blows
I says "My fair maiden, why mumble you so?
Can you tell me where the bonny black hare do go?"
Oh, the answer she gave me, her answer was "No
But it's under me apron they say it do go
And if you'll not deceive me I vow and declare
We'll both go together to hunt the bonny black hare"
Well, I laid this girl down with her face to the sky
And I took out my ramrod and my bullets likewise
I says "Lock your legs round me and dig in with your heels
For the closer we get, oh, the better it feels"


The birds they were singing in the bushes and trees
And the song that they sang was "Oh, she's easy to please"
I felt her heart quiver and I knew what I'd done
Says I "Have you had enough of my old sporting gun?"
Oh, the answer she gave me, her answer was "Nay
It's not often young sportsmen like you come this way
And if your powder is willing and your bullets play fair
Why don't you keep firing at the bonny black hare?"
"Oh, my powder is wasted and my bullets all gone
My ramrod is limp and I cannot fire on
But I'll be back in the morning and if you are still here
We'll both go together to hunt the bonny black hare"

guycurious
Jul 1, 2011, 9:12 AM
I use a trimmer on my arms and legs just to keep the hair in check. South of the navel I shave but I just started researching salons that perform male waxing in that area. I'm tired of the ingrown hairs and when I shave, the hair just starts growing back in the next day.

Mimmie Cali
Jul 1, 2011, 11:23 PM
Wow....

I do not agree.

I hate touching men with untamed hair. at least knock some of it down. as for a female, i would prefer smooth. When im with a girl i want it to be sexy and femme. To me this is smooth, like i am.

thats my :2cents:

lizard-lix
Jul 3, 2011, 8:00 AM
I like trimmed/shaved... It just feels better, to me and to my tongue.

Being a moderately hairy guy, I keep my pubes trimmed to the same length as my chest, so it is a continuous look, then I shave form the root of my cock down.. I just like the look and feel..

My wife was totally against shaving, she only trimmed a little (just so no peeking hair with a modest bathing suit). But she let me shave her for the first time about a year ago and now she prefers it that way. She also says she likes the feel.. and it is so much smoother under my tongue...

As for the pedophilia aspect, bah! At least IMNSHO...

(for folks with razor burn problems, TendSkin Air Shave Gel.. done...)

tommyswing
Jul 4, 2011, 11:34 AM
I prefer men to have minimal body hair. I love a hairy pussy. I love having my face in all that wet hair. I also love the look of hair coming out of her panties. I live for the day pussy hair comes back in style.

Falke
Jul 4, 2011, 9:30 PM
I prefer smooth for both sexes. I tend to be very feel oriented and hair just isn't as sensual as someone who is smooth.

To those who say that I am a pedophile or have pedo tendencies I say this: Get your head out of the gutter. I had never thought it could be taken that way. I suppose it's like those asshole Christians whom despite being against it obsess over porn more than your average pervert.

jackbirdjay
Jul 4, 2011, 9:43 PM
If I had my way I would be smooth. I just love the feeling it gives me. But being around family in the summer time they would have isues about my chest and legs and under arms being smooth. I lived far away from them at one time and was totaly smooth and loved it. It's a lot of work. I use to use neet but on my privite areas I would shave because neet or near burns.

Lickinem
Jul 4, 2011, 10:56 PM
I very much prefer "the less hair the better" mentality. In fact I shave everything below the waist, yes even my legs. But I'm not that hairy of a person anyway. Not a "bear" by any stretch.

Darkside2009
Jul 5, 2011, 1:23 AM
I prefer smooth for both sexes. I tend to be very feel oriented and hair just isn't as sensual as someone who is smooth.

To those who say that I am a pedophile or have pedo tendencies I say this: Get your head out of the gutter. I had never thought it could be taken that way. I suppose it's like those asshole Christians whom despite being against it obsess over porn more than your average pervert.

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There was me mistakenly thinking this was a thread about body hair, when it is really about ass-hole Christians. :rolleyes:

As one of the aforementioned, let me just say, that if you wish to have body hair then have it, if you wish to shave, then shave, if you wish to pluck the hairs out a follicle at a time, then do so. I really couldn't care less either way. Save the vitriol for your Mama, not everything in your life is the fault of Christians, some of it, may well be the result of choices and decisions you, yourself, have made.

roy m cox
Jul 5, 2011, 2:11 AM
"WOW" Whats my escuse ,, i have a skin problem that makes my body hair fall out , gods when are people going to stop all this nonsense i mean come on , this is so errr i mean , that one that drupe that is always trying to point out limps and bulges on cartoon characters and then crap like this, makes me think that they them selves are pedophiles ...

i can not in any way control my body hair falling out, it all started at puberty and i was so embarrassed about it i stopped PE and other sports after a incident that happened after foot ball all us boys had to shower after playing and i had no problem with taking a shower with the other boys that is till one of them saw me end up with a hand full of hair off my lag well i wont go in to a lot of detail but i was made fun of for years after that ,,i have been to a lot of doctors about it and all any of them tell me is to just enjoy it , but then i read stuff like this ........... :(

Falke
Jul 5, 2011, 11:06 AM
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There was me mistakenly thinking this was a thread about body hair, when it is really about ass-hole Christians. :rolleyes:

As one of the aforementioned, let me just say, that if you wish to have body hair then have it, if you wish to shave, then shave, if you wish to pluck the hairs out a follicle at a time, then do so. I really couldn't care less either way. Save the vitriol for your Mama, not everything in your life is the fault of Christians, some of it, may well be the result of choices and decisions you, yourself, have made.

Easy Dark. When I said asshole Christians I was speaking of the ones whom seem to obsess over what everyone else is doing/ trying to enforce their moral rules on everyone. I did not mean that all Christians are assholes as this is entirely not the case.

jimisbi
Jul 5, 2011, 2:56 PM
Easy Dark. When I said asshole Christians I was speaking of the ones whom seem to obsess over what everyone else is doing/ trying to enforce their moral rules on everyone. I did not mean that all Christians are assholes as this is entirely not the case.

So why comment on Christians at all? There are other religions in this world and each one has its share of people that take things to the extreme. It really pisses me off when people make derogatory comments on only Christians and no other religion. Yes, I know it's not politically correct to say anything about any religion other than Christianity.

Falke
Jul 5, 2011, 5:18 PM
So why comment on Christians at all? There are other religions in this world and each one has its share of people that take things to the extreme. It really pisses me off when people make derogatory comments on only Christians and no other religion. Yes, I know it's not politically correct to say anything about any religion other than Christianity.

*Sigh*

Re-read the post as it was a comparison. It was the nearest comparision I could think of at the time of people whom obsess over "perversions" more than a pervert would. Further, I did not pick on Christianity as a whole. I only mention a section.

As far as your statement that you feel Christians *In this case the ones whom think we live under their brand of theocracy and will try anything to enforce it* were singled out. So, you are welcome to insert any groups in general that you wish that fit into this category.

_Joe_
Jul 5, 2011, 5:51 PM
All the evaluations and studies and psycologibabble is a waste of time.

Some people love to go all oral on someone else and don't want to floss during the meal....simple as that!

Falke
Jul 5, 2011, 7:08 PM
All the evaluations and studies and psycologibabble is a waste of time.

Some people love to go all oral on someone else and don't want to floss during the meal....simple as that!


Well said.

man4girlgirl4man
Jun 2, 2014, 4:42 AM
For me body hair is an instant dick shrinker. Never will have any kind of sex with a man who looks like a gorilla.

More than just a sexual preference. It's physical. Just the way I am I guess

Same for women. Hairy legs and armpits equals no dick for you, baby. A little over the lip is ok but thick and visible hair anywhere on a woman's face equals same result.

Not being arrogant or a jerk. I just can't have sex with hairy people. Zero attraction no matter how how the rest of a man or a woman is.

newlynymphos
Jun 2, 2014, 6:51 AM
My wife and I both are hair free, and prefer our partners to at least be tightly trimmed (smooth is preferred though :) ) . Plus, it shows off my tattoos better ! :)

monaohio
Jun 2, 2014, 7:52 PM
I don't like body hair on my or when I suck and fuck a man's cock I love it all clean shaved there

Wistfulhub
Jun 2, 2014, 8:44 PM
I love it all! I have seen many women shaved and I do love the smooth unhidden pussy. I have seen women with lovely trimmed and shaped pubes....nice. I have seen a few totally untouched. Something about that is sooo nice. And remember a nice full bush on a lady holds her secret scents in so much more. I have also encountered the occasional woman who has allowed her pits to grow some. If she is a good looking well groomed woman....what a pleasant surprise. As for men....I generally take them as they come naturally. I am not a huge fan of hair removal on men. Just saying. A naturally smooth man is as great as a hairy bear (like me). Smooth pubes is fine. As for me. Too much to shave!

newlynymphos
Jun 3, 2014, 6:48 AM
"WOW" Whats my escuse ,, i have a skin problem that makes my body hair fall out , gods when are people going to stop all this nonsense i mean come on , this is so errr i mean , that one that drupe that is always trying to point out limps and bulges on cartoon characters and then crap like this, makes me think that they them selves are pedophiles ...

i can not in any way control my body hair falling out, it all started at puberty and i was so embarrassed about it i stopped PE and other sports after a incident that happened after foot ball all us boys had to shower after playing and i had no problem with taking a shower with the other boys that is till one of them saw me end up with a hand full of hair off my lag well i wont go in to a lot of detail but i was made fun of for years after that ,,i have been to a lot of doctors about it and all any of them tell me is to just enjoy it , but then i read stuff like this ........... :(

I wish my body hair didn't grow! Would be a lot less up-keep! There are always haters! Screw them! Guess what, I have tattoos, wear mini skirts, and paint my nails too :) And only wear g-strings swimming in public!

WildColonial
Jun 3, 2014, 7:27 PM
I depilate out of necessity, especially when the moon is full and I have the urge to howl high on the hillside in silhouette.

Just had to pull out this old quote because I thought it was funny!

I trim my pubic hair but shave everywhere else. I'm naturally somewhat hairy (blame genetics and PCOS) and have to keep up with it.

On a partner, any pubic, body, or facial hair is beautiful, as long as it's clean.