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miamiuu
Mar 23, 2011, 2:24 PM
Okay I found out two guys that gave me a blowjob were hiv positive. If I was hiv pos I no way in hell would be spreading or doing anything sexual with another person. Sounds very selfish. Supposedly saliva isnt infectious but still I doubt anyone wants their saliva on your dick.

If you had hiv would you still have sex with others. I mean sex is not that big a deal and life and is definitely not worth risking other peoples lives. Even if I told someone I was positive and that I would still wear a condom and they were fine with I still wouldnt have sex with them.

so whats everyone else think?

matutum
Mar 23, 2011, 2:37 PM
Okay I found out two guys that gave me a blowjob were hiv positive. If I was hiv pos I no way in hell would be spreading or doing anything sexual with another person. Sounds very selfish. Supposedly saliva isnt infectious but still I doubt anyone wants their saliva on your dick.

If you had hiv would you still have sex with others. I mean sex is not that big a deal and life and is definitely not worth risking other peoples lives. Even if I told someone I was positive and that I would still wear a condom and they were fine with I still wouldnt have sex with them.

so whats everyone else think?hell no I wouldn't have sex with another.some people would and i would consider that very selfish and an attempt to cause me harm and I'd tell them "i'm comming and hell is comming with me"repercussions would be perminate nature

softfruit
Mar 23, 2011, 2:56 PM
Surely that depends on what kind of sex someone would be having with you?

There's plenty of no-risk or incredibly-low-risk things you can do, and differential chances of transfer depending on which role you take.

And there's plenty of people who don't know their status cos they haven't been tested.

chapear
Mar 23, 2011, 3:44 PM
If I were HIV +, which I'm not, I'd still have sex but only with people that were also HIV+. I wouldn't want to infect anyone that wasn't.

DuckiesDarling
Mar 23, 2011, 3:57 PM
As in just sex with anyone? No. As in sex with my partner, yes. But I do think anyone who is engaging in any sexual relations should be open and honest about hiv status. There are people in this world that are referred to as "bug chasers" that actively seek to have sex with HIV positive people. The thing is HIV is not the death sentence it used to be, there are amazing medical advancements that slow the progression of the disease and allow most HIV positive people to maintain as close to a normal lifestyle as possible.

elian
Mar 23, 2011, 6:49 PM
If I were HIV +, which I'm not, I'd still have sex but only with people that were also HIV+. I wouldn't want to infect anyone that wasn't.

Don't forget that it is possible to re-infect yourself or someone else, even if they already have HIV, painful and expensive treatments might not mean much if that happens.

I would be lying if I told you it wasn't a concern, I certainly have hugged people who have HIV before, taking care not to have any contact with open wounds, etc. Would I have open sex with someone else if I knew I was positive? 98.5% No - although other people don't feel the same way.

Others have pointed out that there are things you can do to reduce the risk but I'd rather not even put myself in position of having the temptation. That might mean I'll have toys or self only - hmm...

I guess those two guys probably thought since they were receiving the risk would be minimal to you - I'm not a doctor so I don't know the right answer to that question.

Another good lesson boys and girls - if you go to a certain place looking for anonymous hook-ups that is probably just what you get..horny people who might not be concerned.

That is one reason I dislike this lifestyle - the perception of always having to sneak around on the down-low. If same sex dating was on the same cultural footing as heterosexual dating then people wouldn't have to go sneaking around risking their health and emotional well being.

If i could quit being bisexual I probably would, just for that reason - but it is a part of me - just as much as anything else.

Of course there is nothing that stops a heterosexual couple or group from passing a disease either. Much better to know the people you are sleeping with if possible.

Darkside2009
Mar 23, 2011, 10:07 PM
Just as a point of interest, Duckies Darling mentioned so called bug chasers, I refer you to the blogs of two such people. One calling himself, 'Spunk Bucket' in Belfast, Northern Ireland. The other an English guy in his twenties calling himself, 'Sauna Slut'. The latter attends bare-back parties where he is the recipient of several loads from other guys, including some he knows are HIV+

At one point in his blog, Sauna Slut details how he used a toothbrush on his anus until the bristles on the toothbrush turned pink, indicating he was bleeding, prior to having bareback sex with an HIV+ guy.

Why anyone would want to put themselves at risk in this way just for the pleasure of bareback sex with strangers is beyond me, but to deliberately court infection in this way, is not evidence of a sane person.

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Mar 24, 2011, 2:18 AM
Question is Miami, are you going to go be tested now? I hope so for Your safety....Good luck hon. And no way would I be having sex again, for all of the lover's I have Do Not have HIV, so there would go my sex life...:(
Cat :(

Michigan_cpl
Mar 24, 2011, 11:40 AM
the answer to your question is HELL NO.

that is why i do not play around alot. i am very picky one who i have sex with. and i always use condoms when i do play just for that reason. i
dont go to bed with just any one. have to have build up that trust with the person that you are with.

maxtor
Mar 24, 2011, 1:45 PM
i would find another person that is HIV+ and then we could have sex together and not be afraid of infecting anyone else. we would have to worry with infecting each other so the inibition would be gone and we could have hot steamy sex.

maxtor
Mar 24, 2011, 1:47 PM
Okay I found out two guys that gave me a blowjob were hiv positive. If I was hiv pos I no way in hell would be spreading or doing anything sexual with another person. Sounds very selfish. Supposedly saliva isnt infectious but still I doubt anyone wants their saliva on your dick.

If you had hiv would you still have sex with others. I mean sex is not that big a deal and life and is definitely not worth risking other peoples lives. Even if I told someone I was positive and that I would still wear a condom and they were fine with I still wouldnt have sex with them.

so whats everyone else think?

you cant catch HIV from a blow job unless the person causes an open wound on your cock and then get his slavia in it. as long as there are not open wounds you wont catch it.

tenni
Mar 24, 2011, 1:49 PM
I just do not know. For awhile, I may be so upset or involved with my health that all sex may be out of my mind. Eventually, I would probably want some form of sexual intimacy. Legally, I would be required to inform any possible partner. I would inform a possible partner.

In my country it is illegal for a person who knows that they have HIV not to inform their sexual partners before having sex. If they do not inform the person that they have HIV, they may be guilty of a sexual assault. If a person knowingly transmits AIDs and the victim dies, that person may be found guilty of murder in Canada. This has been resolved in the Canadian courts. People who go to be tested for sexually transmitted diseases are informed of this fact about sexual assault.

dafydd
Mar 24, 2011, 3:32 PM
Yes of course. Just use condoms.

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void()
Mar 24, 2011, 10:19 PM
"Supposedly saliva isnt infectious"

Apologies, but yes it is. This is why when prisoners bite guards in jails, they could possibly be charged with murder. Any bodily fluid may contain and transfer H.I.V. You can eliminate it from surfaces by using direct bleach, wipe surface with bleach, let stand ten minutes before rinsing and drying surface. Have also heard ammonia may kill the virus, wouldn't quote that.

To respond, it would depend on the partners involved. As noted, there are things folks can do safely. Going out and hooking up at random though? No. I'd rather not cause pain like that.

Excuse me, bed time.

miamiuu
Mar 25, 2011, 3:29 PM
"Supposedly saliva isnt infectious"

Apologies, but yes it is. This is why when prisoners bite guards in jails, they could possibly be charged with murder. Any bodily fluid may contain and transfer H.I.V. You can eliminate it from surfaces by using direct bleach, wipe surface with bleach, let stand ten minutes before rinsing and drying surface. Have also heard ammonia may kill the virus, wouldn't quote that.

To respond, it would depend on the partners involved. As noted, there are things folks can do safely. Going out and hooking up at random though? No. I'd rather not cause pain like that.

Excuse me, bed time.

ive heard differently about saliva on hiv messageboards. they claim receiving oral sex is not a risk for hiv. I just wouldnt want to risk anyone with hiv having any type of sex with me.

I took the test at a local lab so I'll know monday. im going into this thinking i am hiv pos because I was ill a few times last year. dont know if it was from dirty dicks or what. I had thrush and burning feet for a month with a rash. also had strep with a fever for like 20 days. was on two different antibiotics but i was never tested for strep.

justcurious4me
Mar 25, 2011, 6:28 PM
Yes, this all goes back to being honest witht the other person. We all know that there are activities that are low risk. But, let's just face facts, we're all human and we all will get the urge to be with someone. Now, back in the 1980's, when there were no known treatments for HIV, that would be a HUGE problem... Today though, there are treatments that allow a person with HIV to enjoy a long life. I have an uncle that is HIV+ and I don't expect him to be secluded. I would definitely have to adjust my dating tactics to only be with HIV+ people. But, if I had HIV, I would NEVER intentionally have sex with a person that does not have HIV.

dickhand
Mar 25, 2011, 6:39 PM
I agree with Chapear , I would seek out other HIV + folks to play with .

bisexualcocklover
Mar 26, 2011, 3:03 AM
If I we're HIV+I would seek out seek others who were also + to have sex with. Other than that...I would still masturbate...and possibly mutually masturbate with others if we did it safely and not without my telling them first.

lizard-lix
Mar 26, 2011, 9:57 AM
If I were HIV+, I would have sex with other HIV+ people.

Full disclosure and prior acceptance/agreement both ways would be a must.

Yes, there is the risk of re-infection with a different mutation, yep, them's the risks (see above statement).

To mangle the line from Monty Python and the Holy Grail one more time "I'm not dead yet"

But, I couldn't handle the chance of infecting a non-infected person, that is simply too much risk, so none of that even with safe practices.

Here is hoping that all of us discussing this hypothetically, get to keep it hypothetical.

Liz

SexualBoigamer2012
Mar 26, 2011, 10:48 AM
I would have sex even if i had an HIV because if i die because of it, at least my last moments were enjoyed.

void()
Mar 26, 2011, 1:17 PM
I would have sex even if i had an HIV because if i die because of it, at least my last moments were enjoyed.

I can understand this point of view but can you understand the inverse one?

Could you truly say you enjoyed your last minutes knowing you've inflicted pain and suffering on another?

This is why I say it would depend on the partner/s and situation/s for myself. Of course, I would hold to open and honest communication with these partner/s. Then at least in part, it could be their choice or at least an option.

Just something to consider.

drugstore cowboy
Mar 26, 2011, 4:34 PM
ive heard differently about saliva on hiv messageboards. they claim receiving oral sex is not a risk for hiv. I just wouldnt want to risk anyone with hiv having any type of sex with me.

I took the test at a local lab so I'll know monday. im going into this thinking i am hiv pos because I was ill a few times last year. dont know if it was from dirty dicks or what. I had thrush and burning feet for a month with a rash. also had strep with a fever for like 20 days. was on two different antibiotics but i was never tested for strep.

I hope that your tests show you as neg, if you wind up being Poz or HIV+ you did not get it from getting sucked off.

Are you sure you didn't get fucked without a condom?

Realistically speaking, your risks of HIV infection are extremely low/non-existent from getting oral sex. If you are receiving oral sex from someone else, you are normally only being exposed to saliva. The concentrations of the HIV virus in saliva are so low, that the chances of infection are realistically extremely small. Receiving oral sex would only pose a significant risk if there were visible blood in the persons mouth. Because people do not normally have visible blood in their mouth, the risks of infection are extremely low.

Has HIV transmission ever been reported through receiving oral sex? Recently, a case report of HIV transmission through receiving oral sex was reported in the medical literature. HIV transmission through this route of infection was so strange and unusual, that it got published. A case in this report did indeed involve a man getting bitten when he received oral sex (ouch!), and also involved the presence of blood.

Does this mean that everyone who has received oral sex should now run out and get tested? Absolutely not! Receiving oral sex is such an extremely low risk that it took many years of worldwide surveillance to find anyone becoming infected this way. Given enough time and enough opportunity, extremely rare events (like transmission through kissing and receiving oral sex) are bound to occur. With all the oral sex that occurs worldwide every day, the fact that it took so many years to find any cases worldwide, proves that this is an extremely low risk. In my answers, you will note that I talk about the risks of receiving oral sex as being "extremely small", "highly unlikely", and other similar terms. We cannot say there is zero risk when receiving oral sex since nothing in medicine (or life for that matter) is absolute or 100%. But realistically, the chances of infection by receiving oral sex are extremely small.

Unless you see visible blood in a persons mouth when they are giving you oral sex, there is no need to get tested. We generally do not recommend HIV testing for persons at low risk of infection, since it would be highly unlikely that a low risk person would be infected in the first place. If you look hard enough and long enough in the medical literature, you will find that just about anything in medicine is possible, regardless of what disease one is talking about. If, after reading this answer, you start convincing yourself that you will be one of those extremely rare individuals who will get HIV through receiving oral sex, or if you find yourself in a panic, rather than getting tested, consider talking to a counselor. If a person cannot accept the extremely low risks in life, then counseling may be in order. Rather than spending your time worrying about the rare exceptions in life, spend your time making your life healthier (both physically and emotionally).

drugstore cowboy
Mar 26, 2011, 4:36 PM
I certainly have hugged people who have HIV before, taking care not to have any contact with open wounds, etc.

Even if you did somehow have open wounds or were bleeding from a cut and hugged someone who has HIV or full blown AIDS you would not get infected that way. :rolleyes:

miamiuu
Mar 26, 2011, 4:49 PM
is there any truth to the whole if you dip a dick once into someones butt you have a high risk of hiv infection? for one i thought it takes people a while to create precum. to say you got infected through one stroke seems a little outlandish.

drugstore cowboy
Mar 26, 2011, 4:55 PM
is there any truth to the whole if you dip a dick once into someones butt you have a high risk of hiv infection? for one i thought it takes people a while to create precum. to say you got infected through one stroke seems a little outlandish.

Yes you can get HIV this way. It is as though you were having sex without a condom.

Were you the person getting fucked?

miamiuu
Mar 26, 2011, 5:04 PM
ive been with like 4 guys without a condom for bottoming ive topped about 4 without a condom.one of them stuck his dick in me for like 10 seconds another maybe did three strokes only. Ive never had any cum inside me. thing is the guys i topped i didnt really get any symptoms or sicknesses afterwards. the last guy i was with gave me gonorhea in december which is when i decided to stop being a whore. hoping im clean. ive already accepted that i was positive so if the results come back negative i can celebrate. if they come back positive then ive already accepted that fact. just thinking what a pain in the ass it is to deal with anti viral meds and treatment for hiv. Its a complication to life which i really am not interested in experiencing.

miamiuu
Mar 28, 2011, 5:40 PM
i got a negative. no more dick for this butthole. i dont trust other guys period even with condoms to be screwing me.

Spaka69
Mar 28, 2011, 7:20 PM
ive been with like 4 guys without a condom for bottoming ive topped about 4 without a condom.one of them stuck his dick in me for like 10 seconds another maybe did three strokes only. Ive never had any cum inside me. thing is the guys i topped i didnt really get any symptoms or sicknesses afterwards. the last guy i was with gave me gonorhea in december which is when i decided to stop being a whore. hoping im clean. ive already accepted that i was positive so if the results come back negative i can celebrate. if they come back positive then ive already accepted that fact. just thinking what a pain in the ass it is to deal with anti viral meds and treatment for hiv. Its a complication to life which i really am not interested in experiencing.

You're lucky gonorrhea was the only disease you caught. HIV is the kiss of death IMO. I like to bottom for a guy with a big cock and I've had a couple of guys try to bare back me when I was doggie style, stopped that right away. That's one reason why I like being on my back, now I can see whats going to fuck me.