Egypt Protesters Leak State Docs on Wikileaks Facebook Page

[NotLostJustWandering]

Here's the main story: http://wikileaksnews.livejournal.com/317346.html
Opening paragraphs:

Egyptian protesters raided the State Security Intelligence Directorate over the weekend, finding and posting on Facebook documents that point to the Mubarak government’s involvement in terrorism, domestic spying, and torture.

Protesters have posted several of the thousands-of-seized documents on a Wikileaks-styled Facebook page, called Amn Dawla Leaks (National Security Leaks) and blasted them over Twitter using photo-sharing service Yfrog. The interim military government has requested the return of the documents, and protest organizers fear that the documents, which have proliferated throughout the country, will be lost or devalued, rendering them useless for future prosecutions.

Here's the Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/AmnDawlaLeaksEN?ref=ts&sk=wall

And here is the story that's REALLY blowing my mind (article quoted below in its entirety; key sections bolded by me:

Egypt: Gamal Mubarak and ex-interior minister 'behind Sharm-el-Sheikh bombings'
http://www.adnkronos.com/IGN/Aki/English/Security/Egypt-Gamal-Mubarak-and-ex-interior-minister-behind-Sharm-el-Sheikh-bombings_311761754083.html


Cairo, 7 March (AKI) - Former Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak' son Gamal and Egypt's former interior minister Habib el-Adly ordered the deadly bombings of the Red Sea resort of Sharm El Sheikh in 2005, Kuwaiti paper Al-Jarida reported Monday, citing classified documents.

The coordinated bombings of a bazaar and two hotels on 23 July 2005 killed 88 people, mostly Egyptians, and injured 200.

According to the top-secret interior ministry documents, Mubarak wanted to take revenge on businessman Hussein Salem for reducing his cut on on a 2.5 billion dollar contract to supply gas to Israel from 10 percent to 2.5 percent, Al-Jarida said.

Mubarak and El-Adli ordered the bombing of 3 compounds in Sharm Skeikh, owned by Salem. In the case of the market truck bombing, the driver had to abandon his truck bomb at the bazaar because of a police roadblock.

El-Adli organised the bombings and paid several individuals who made the car bombs used in the attacks, according to the documents, Al-Jarida said.

Dozens of Beduoin Arabs from the Sinai desert were arrested over the blasts, which were claimed in a message posted to a jihadist website signed by a group called the Abdullah Azzam Brigades, which claimed links to Al-Qaeda.

Al-Adly went on trial in Egypt on 5 March for corruption and violence by the country's security forces. The state security apparatus under El-Adly has been widely accused of committing a vast array of human rights abuses, including illegal detentions, torture and murder.

If found guilty, El-Adly faces a maximum of seven years in prison and seizure of his assets. If the shocking allegations against him made by Al-Jarida were to reach trial, the former minister could face a far harsher sentence if convicted.

Gamal Mubarak's whereabouts are unknown. Some reports have said he is with his father in Sharm El Sheikh. Other reports claimed he fled the country in late January with his family aboard a private jet headed for London when violent unrest broke out in Egypt over his autocratic father's 30-year rule.

Last week, Algerian newspaper Ech Chourouk cited unnamed sources as saying Gamal Mubarak had tried to commit suicide by drinking poisoned tea as Egyptian authorities sought to retrieve millions of dollars deposited by the Mubarak family in banks around the world.

WHAT BASTARDS!!!!!

[darkeyes]

Wow.. shockin innit? An such a surprise that a government would bomb its own country for its own purposes.. ther a lesson ther for ne 1 who wants 2 learn it.. that governments do all sotrtsa shitty things 2 hold on 2 power.. pretty ruthless things an all.. an the sad fact is they r not always govts we call tyrannies run by bastards like Mubarak.. sumtimes they hav ordinaire nice names like Bush, Clinton, Blair, Brown, Cameron, an a lil less ordinaire, Obama, Sarkozy, Berlusconi, Merkel...

[tenni]

Thanks for information that I do not think that is being reported yet in my country.

[NotLostJustWandering]

Even after all we know about the Mubaraks, this one has me floored. There are SO MANY levels of perfidy here... innocents murdered, an already oppressed minority scapegoated, tourism ruined and with it so many people's livelihoods, the reputation of Egypt and the Islamic world further associated with terrorism, and all over a petty desire for vengeance over not getting a desired share of a dirty deal selling out Egyptian wealth for the benefit of Egypt's alleged national enemy... it boggles the mind.

[DuckiesDarling]

You know, just to play devil's advocate, the way the documents were found bothers me. The protestors found them, who is to say they weren't planted? How many of the "leaked" documents were actually supportive of the accusations leveled at Mubarak and his government? There has been a valid point made by the government that they need to verify the validity of the information as well as handle it through proper channels in order to use them in court.

[Hephaestion]

Sounds like you're going to have to poke wounds and raise bodies NotLost.

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[NotLostJustWandering]

You know, just to play devil's advocate, the way the documents were found bothers me. The protestors found them, who is to say they weren't planted?

The documents were found by protesters after they stormed Intelligence office buildings in Nasr City and Alexandria. Are you suggesting that in the days beforehand Egyptian Intelligence officials said to each other, "Hey guys, what do you say, just in case the protesters come and take over this place, we create some phony documents that make it look like we've been covering up the most outrageous plot since 9/11, Iran/Contra, or the JFK assassination?"

Nice try, DD, but I think the Devil's going to have to hire better legal representation. :-P

[DuckiesDarling]

No, Atiq, what I am suggesting is there is a chance that some of the documents weren't found where they say they were found. That some of the more explosive ones aren't actually government documents at all. It happens, a bit like the protestors who took the opportunity to rob a museum.

[NotLostJustWandering]

Or maybe some of you think that the documents were created by someone among the protesters who snuck them in while the crowds were ransacking the buildings. OK, if that's anyone's theory, please explain the motive.

To incriminate Gamal Mubarak and Habib el-Adly?
No, there's already mountains of evidence of other crimes committed by these two. Why manufacture more and risk damaging the cases against them?

To discredit the official version of what happened?
No need. I have yet to meet a single Egyptian who ever believed the official story. It always seemed fishy, it's just that until now no one knew who to blame.

To dispel previously entertained theories, and exonerate Mossad, Bedouin rebels, or Islamicists?
Everyone in Egypt hates Mossad, so there's no reason why anyone would want to deflect blame from them. *Maybe* there was someone in that crowd of rebels who gives a shit about the Bedouins, but not likely. The only remotely likely scenario was that some Muslim Brotherhood people wanted to lift suspicion off them, but still, you have to imagine that just for that purpose they attended the protest with papers hidden under their shirts and while in the company of hundreds of others managed to sneak them into the files of actual papers there, risking getting caught and REALLY giving the MB a bad name among the Egyptian people.

No, I just don't see it. As outrageous as this story is, the idea that the papers were fabricated beforehand and slipped in seems far less plausible. There's no reason to doubt that a Mubarak could have planned the bombing and pulled it off without a crony daring to expose the truth. It's only the depth of depravity it would have taken to do it that boggles the mind. But we already know that we are talking about extremely corrupt, selfish people.

[NotLostJustWandering]

No, Atiq, what I am suggesting is there is a chance that some of the documents weren't found where they say they were found.

*That*'s imaginable, since we don't know the details of exactly who did the uploading to Facebook. Hopefully this will all come out in the next few days.


That some of the more explosive ones aren't actually government documents at all. It happens, a bit like the protestors who took the opportunity to rob a museum.

No, common thievery and elaborate conspiracy are apples and oranges.

[Darkside2009]

Here's the main story: http://wikileaksnews.livejournal.com/317346.html
Opening paragraphs:

Egyptian protesters raided the State Security Intelligence Directorate over the weekend, finding and posting on Facebook documents that point to the Mubarak government’s involvement in terrorism, domestic spying, and torture.

Protesters have posted several of the thousands-of-seized documents on a Wikileaks-styled Facebook page, called Amn Dawla Leaks (National Security Leaks) and blasted them over Twitter using photo-sharing service Yfrog. The interim military government has requested the return of the documents, and protest organizers fear that the documents, which have proliferated throughout the country, will be lost or devalued, rendering them useless for future prosecutions.

Here's the Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/AmnDawlaLeaksEN?ref=ts&sk=wall

And here is the story that's REALLY blowing my mind (article quoted below in its entirety; key sections bolded by me:

Egypt: Gamal Mubarak and ex-interior minister 'behind Sharm-el-Sheikh bombings'
http://www.adnkronos.com/IGN/Aki/English/Security/Egypt-Gamal-Mubarak-and-ex-interior-minister-behind-Sharm-el-Sheikh-bombings_311761754083.html



WHAT BASTARDS!!!!!

So some unknown source, starts off a Face Book style page to which they publish allegations against Mubarak, that this unknown source, claims to have been retrieved from an Egyptian Government Ministry, and you automatically believe them? Are you always so gullible?

[Realist]

Nothing corrupts like power..........

Nothing corrupts absolutely, like absolute power!

Ask Saddam, Joseph, Adolph, Pol, Kim, Mao, etc, etc..........

[DuckiesDarling]

Nothing corrupts like power..........

Nothing corrupts absolutely, like absolute power!

Ask Saddam, Joseph, Adolph, Pol, Kim, Mao, etc, etc..........

and George W.

[darkeyes]

So some unknown source, starts off a Face Book style page to which they publish allegations against Mubarak, that this unknown source, claims to have been retrieved from an Egyptian Government Ministry, and you automatically believe them? Are you always so gullible?

Not automatically no.. but at least as often as not more often than the shit govts expect us to believe.. naaa bollox..a tadge more often than not....at least.. but like we check govt crap.. me dus try 2 do the same wiv vested interests... individually or collectively..