IF YOUR STRAIGHT WHY ARE YOU HERE?

[cock1958]

IF YOU AINT BI OR GAY WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE!

[Falke]

If you can't use proper punctuation or turn off your caps lock button, why are you here?!

There! I fixed it for you! :)

[jem_is_bi]

I suspect there is more that was not said, which that motivated that attack.
I can think of a few straight people that if they were regular here, then I would be uncomfortable or more.
But, in my experience, the straight people I have meet here were extremely nice.

[fpb09]

GOOD QUESTION ?

[Long Duck Dong]

cos other sexualities want to see the way that some bisexuals can be opinionated, judgemental and wish to exclude members of society that make up the vast communities of the world

cos other sexualities want to see the bigoted and narrow minded attitude of some bisexuals towards those people of other sexualities, that are deemed * unworthy * in the eyes of some bisexuals......

cos people of other sexualities want to see if bisexuals are truely the genuine, caring, down to earth mature, understanding, unbiased people we want the rest of the world to think we are.........

cos they want to see bisexuals acting like bisexuals.... human and with all the rough edges

WHY ???? cos they have to share beds, houses, society and communities with us and they want to see if there is any truth to the rumour that bisexuals are just like anybody else in the world..... and if there is truth to the rumour that in the bisexuality community... we also have the * good bad and the ugly *, just like the other sexualities......

or it could just be that other sexualities have a interest in being friends and lovers of bisexuals or learning about bisexuality........

fucked if I know..... I am bisexual..... I think I will ask my straight partner to post her opinion

[Jester The Rebel]

Probably straight people are here because they themselves aren't exactly sure of what they want. Be it man, or woman. Just saying....

[DuckiesDarling]

hmm okay babe as the straight partner of LDD. I'm here to learn more about positions for pegging my man deep. anymore questions?

Have a nice day :)



Oh and Rick1958, nice of you to change your name before posting this crap but next time use different pictures as well cause there is such a thing as an identifying cock :2cents:

Edited to add http://main.bisexual.com/forum/member.php?u=90409

[coyotedude]

<Hacks hairball at troll>

[bizel]

are you having a bad hair day? did someone hide your pacifier? or do you really want to know?

my hubby admitted strong feelings for men. where do i turn? who do i talk to, to understand his confusion and help him? how do i figure out how to make him happy again, be it as his wife, or only best friend? i wish i did have a circle of all-sexuality friends. i don't though. most don't want to talk about anything that personal unless their drunk, maybe not even then. they may be bi or gay or whatever. maybe your opinion is why they keep quiet. I don't know and i wouldn't want to pry anyway. personally, i'm straight with a few kinks, my hubby is bi and perfect. together, with the help of a lot of wise, kind, generous and funny people here, we're working through our fears and will come out smiling. all who have helped, and you know who you are either from thread posts or personal messages or both, i love you all (or in the famous words of jeff fenech - our aussie boxer - i love youse all). i wish i could physically embrace you for your support and advice. i love your messages, i enjoy being able to offer my insights. and according to some feedback, i'm helping others as well when they want a wife's point of view or just to know that straight wives can love their bi husbands just the way they are.

for angry, wanna-be elitists, shame on you! your behaviour is exactly the very thing you've had to fight. unfortunately, it's the few that ruin it for the many, which is why the fight for acceptance will sadly continue. but it just goes to show, wankers come in all forms.

consider your question answered. or was my explanation too technical for you????

[tenni]

There seems to be a lot of anger and sarcasm on this thread.

Those heterosexuals that seem to be posting on this site may be seeking answers to questions about bisexuality. Some heteros post rarely on this site but have done so for years and when they do they offer a perspective that helps a bisexual or heterosexual understand their bisexual partner.

I think that if a straight or gay person posts frequently on this site for more than a few months that this is a valid question. It seems to be fulfilling a need just as a bisexual who posts here is having a need fulfilled. The question for me is whether the straight or gay person's on going needs should be fullfilled on a bisexual site for more than a month or two.

[12voltman59]

This is not a very good post by someone who "just got here" both in the question and the tone--with the all CAPS which in the cyber world is equivalent to shouting with a bullhorn.

It gets me that someone can come to a site like this--that has been here for quite some time and somehow presume they know what is best for it!!

Kind of like when you work at some company---you either get a new manager of your office or another company buys yours out and even if things have gone on pretty damn well with your company or at your office--the new arrivals go and change everything just for the sake of changing things---basically fracking up everything up in the process!!

We may not be perfect here---but having the mix of folks we do at the site has worked pretty damn well, for the most part, all these many years, THANK YOU VERY DAMN MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

[Realist]

One word.....Ignore!

[bizel]

actually, i did fly off the handle, maybe over-reacting to a point i have wondered about. 'cock' is entitled to have his say. that's what the forum is all about - discussion, meeting of minds, exchange of ideas etc.

to be totally correct, 'cock', if you're gay, you should not even be here. the clue is in the title of the site.

as a straight, i do feel like if i'm not asking something in relation to my hubby, i really ought not get involved with threads. but the people here, irreguardless of sex, are usually so warm and compassionate. i love that about them. and bi's also have questions that sometimes can benefit from the non-bi point of view. they send me private messages, asking for my advice while sharing their insight. no-one should ever have to struggle with their sexuality, like my hubby does. the word 'suicide' even surfaced. terrible!!!

the whole bi thing is not sullied by gay's and straights. it is enhanced. open minds and tolerance are vital to making a happier community. tell us what the real problem is, 'cock', let it all out. this is where you should be doing it. people here do care, and we'll help you and your supporters, if we can.

[_Joe_]

I do wonder why the simple irony is lost on so many.

The irony of us bisexuals going on about how we all want to be treated equal, but there's folks like this screaming "get out of here if you're not one of us"

What hope do you have being treated equal when you can't reciprocate.

[tenni]

"the whole bi thing is not sullied by gay's and straights."

bizel
Well, that is the opinion of a straight woman married to a bisexual man. The fact that you post such a "thesis" on this bisexual site is questionable from my perspective. I do think that you responded very well as to why you, a straight woman, post on this site and what you are here for though.

Each site that deals with bisexuality that I have read has had a different tone. The sexuality and gender spectrum of posters on this site is fairly broad and we get such comments as your above statement which to me seems confusing if not unfounded. I do not agree with you on that statement but other bisexuals may.

If this were a site of bisexual men only, there may very well be a diferent point of view and discussion. There is on another site just for bisexual men. No women are permitted to join it. If this were a gay site for gay men, there would be yet a different viewpoint and discussion. I understand that there are sites just for heterosexual women married to bisexual men to offer them support and understanding as well. I do think that this is the only site that is obsessed with calling differing views "trolls" that I have been on though. That may make the tone of this site different and I'm not sure if the tone of this site is from the diversity of gender and sexuality or this "troll' phobia..lol?

The whole bi thing (as you refer to it) is marginalized even amongst non heterosexuals from what I am able to understand. You can in fact put so much water in your soup that it becomes irrelevant and hardly worth eating. Probably though more important is the type of discussion that can go on a site. There are many, many good comments made on this site for bisexuals by bisexuals. I think that is most important for bisexuals to hear from a bisexual who has been there just as it may be helpful for a bisexual man to hear from a straight woman about how to open up to his wife etc. There are comments made by lesbians who are in relationships with bisexual women that may be helpful to other bisexual women in similar relationships.

Then again though, the soup is watered down by such diversity so that there is very little focus. I think that bizel's general approach is a very good approach for a straight woman on this site. If you are still a frequent poster in six months to a year, then your needs may have changed for being on this site?

[Diva667]

It is a "bisexual community" site.

As a community should we not accept our straight or gay partners. Should we not also accept our straight or gay allies. A community isn't made up of just one type of person, that would lead to stagnation.

Our partners have just as much right to participate as we do, they are part of our community. So do our allies and family (if we want them - personally I wouldn't invite my family here, no offense but you all want to talk about some very personal subjects in an open forum.) Yes, there is a place for bi women/ men to have discussions exclusively with other bi women/ men, they do exist , I'm a member of a couple of them. But also we need a place where we can also have our partners as part of the community & those are far and few between.

Although I do have to say that if I were to invite my partner to a site, it would not be this one, for the reasons I just posted above. this place is too much like times square in the old days. Hookers, porn shops and muggers on every corner...

Just my two cents worth.

[Diva667]

And as far as your soup analogy... the ingredients so far are 77% Bi Male, 33% "other" things. that can hardly be said to be watered down. LOL

[tenni]

Diva
Yes, over 30&#37; of "other" is watered down from 100% quite a bit. Uh...your numbers do not add up to 100% though?

The discussion has happened just a few months ago. The site is "for bisexual men, women and couples". according to the mast. There is no reference to gays. The term couples is open to interpretation. The word "women" without the "bisexual" word may also be argued but I suspect that it was meant for bisexual men and women.....meaning bisexuals of both genders...then we have more diversity with gender issues being discussed on the site..and on the watering down goes on.

[Diva667]

Actually it seems that if you include Bisexual women in there it is 95.3% Bisexual people(of all genders.) Which leaves 4.7 %"other" sexualities. Is there not room enough here for all of them? Some of which may be bi but differently gendered, or not willing to label themselves as anything.

You said yourself that there are other sites, correct?

And wouldn't "couples" inherently include some gay folks, on a bisexual site?

[jamieknyc]

Actually, anyone of any orientation is allowed to participate

[Long Duck Dong]

Actually, anyone of any orientation is allowed to participate

unless you are a hater or a troll or advertiser in which case you are removed from the site lol

I still can not understand how some bisexuals are stating its a site for bisexuals only, when drew has never stated it is, or removed any non bisexuals from the site cos they are not bisexual.......

its interesting to notice that its mainly bi males that are stating its bi only.... and often, people that appear to be the ones that just can not get laid by anybody lol

[NotLostJustWandering]

Then again though, the soup is watered down by such diversity so that there is very little focus.

I think this forum could use more diversity, not less.

Just deleted the last four sentences I wrote. I have not dropped in after all this time just to be negative about the site.

Anyway, Tenni, you can't seriously suggest that the site would gain focus if we limited it to bisexuals. Did you not agree with me that the bisexual spirit may best be characterized as centrifugal?

Re the OP: To weigh in my :2cents:, I welcome straights, gays, and just about anyone here who is willing to LISTEN to what we say about who we are and what we feel and think, and not try to TELL us about who we are and what we feel and think.

[Realist]

If this site belonged to me, I'd welcome anyone who was interested in learning about bisexuality, needed help, information, ask for sources, or just wanted to talk to others of our ilk.

I think the best way to deal with anyone who is interested, is to respond to them with open-mindedness, honesty, and with a helpful demeanor.

I know I am a lot more apt to respond positively to positive people, than I am with argumentative, overbearing, and abusive ones. In a way, we each are ambassadors for the bisexual community. If we are helpful and courteous, maybe even if the person has no inclination to be bi, or gay, they may think of us in a more positive light.

Actually, I think that may be exactly the premise of this site!

Just a thought.

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Kudos and a plate of cookies to Diva and Real. And just for the record, loves, it Has been a while since the troll squad has emerged. It's about this same time every year that he/she/it returns, so stay tuned.

And what difference is it if a person is Bi, Gay, Straight, Trans or Lesbian? We are all here to be liked an accepted as PEOPLE, not just for our sexual diversities.
Try asking the question again, Cock. But this time ask in a little more clearer detail, and in a softer manner. ;} You have a fantastic bunch of folks here with us, get to know us, you may be surprised at who you'll learn to call friends. :}
Cat

[DuckiesDarling]

Not to cause trouble but just so the newer people realize how ummm hypocritical a certain member can be.



Maybe, if there was more public discussion about bisexuality this may become easier. I believe that public discussion has opened the door to explore their sexuality for a lot of people. There does seem to be still stigma attached to bisexuality to a point of non existence in some public discussions.


Thanks for proving everyone's point for them.

[Falke]

Kudos and a plate of cookies to Diva and Real. And just for the record, loves, it Has been a while since the troll squad has emerged. It's about this same time every year that he/she/it returns, so stay tuned.

And what difference is it if a person is Bi, Gay, Straight, Trans or Lesbian? We are all here to be liked an accepted as PEOPLE, not just for our sexual diversities.
Try asking the question again, Cock. But this time ask in a little more clearer detail, and in a softer manner. ;} You have a fantastic bunch of folks here with us, get to know us, you may be surprised at who you'll learn to call friends. :}
Cat

A plate of cookies for you too Cat! Well said!

[coyotedude]

I really wasn't going to treat this thread seriously, as it was obviously posted by a troll out of pure spite to stir up shit.

But I find it highly ironic that we have people questioning whether straight folks can be a part of this community when we can't even agree among ourselves on what "bisexual" really means!

Unlike some people here, I don't feel threatened by straight or gay people within this community. The better educated straight and gay people are about bisexuals and pansexuals, the better off we all are.

I welcome my straight and gay brothers and sisters with open arms. The more, the merrier.

Peace

[bicurcple]

IF YOU AINT BI OR GAY WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE!

Well at least you leave no question as to why you are not posting with a mate. Takes some nerve to say something like that when you have only been here a month. Maybe you should seek out a "Bisexuals Only" site. Please!!!!

[tenni]

I was not going to post again but ...

It is not that straights should not read this site or ask questions about their bisexual partners as much as I wrote how the discussion is altered by having some straight person impose their judgment on a bisexual. I'm suspicious that a lot of us(bisexuals) hold hetero views and values and we impose them on other bisexuals but I may be wrong.

Personally, I am going through a nice little hell due to my bisexuality at this moment. From the type of judgmental comments that I have read on this site and my opinionated posts, I would not feel comfortable exposing the betrayal that I am going through. What happened doesn't fit into the "nice" hetero bisexual that is clean and tidy. I suspect that some straight persons may think that they understand what has happened and be able to post a "pretty" response but never ever feel the depths of emotion that I am experiencing and the complexities of the situation.

There is no bisexual community. This is a web site and not the real world...lol

Bicouple this is suppose to be a web site for bisexuals....not a straight web site. You over emphasize the "couple" word.

[DuckiesDarling]

You know, Tenni, maybe if in your past posts you hadn't been quite so judgemental of people on this site you'd find there really is a community and plenty of people waiting to offer you a shoulder to cry on, an ear to rant into and a couch to lay on if needed.

It's not too late, just lose the chip on the shoulder and reach for the help, even if it's just pixels on a screen it's real people responding.

[**Peg**]

why does every thread have to degrade into THIS? hmm?

it's pathetic.

[bicurcple]

Bicouple this is suppose to be a web site for bisexuals....not a straight web site. You over emphasize the "couple" word.

Oh excuse us......this is a post.....ummmm.....where people post, right. we never said anything about this being a straight site.........and we don't know what you mean by us over emphasizing the "couple" word but oh well. Don't really appreciate you coming at us.....we were just giving our opinion to the POSTER!........ But don't you worry, every time we say something on these bullshit post we are always getting some asshole who wants to comment about us and our opinions. We have better things to do than play in this soap opera. goodbye.

[bicurcple]

As you will notice we have disabled our profile and will be taking the steps to not visit anymore till we get deleted. Just tired of it.

[wanderingrichard]

it's obvious that this has degenerated beyond civility and reason. i can only hope Drew comes back and wipes this from our server.

[Long Duck Dong]

You can learn that on any number of Heterosexual sex sites about anal sex and sexual positions for anal sex.

I agree with the OP that this is a site that's for men and women who are bisexual and we should not forget this. It's not Bisexuals and Every straight person and everyone else who wants to be here.com it's bisexual.com

It's not a site for people who are straight who like to chat with their friends here and pretend that they're queer because they use a strapon dildo in a man's ass or are an ally to bisexual men when they are really not.

Then again there is a couple here who love to gang up on people who post things that they do not personally agree with.

The man in that couple is severely mentally ill and he's not even pansexual or bisexual at all since he's asexual and has zero sex drive or sexual attraction at all.

I love the logic.... unless a person is sexually active, they can not have a sexuality...... and I have stated that i am attracted to all genders and sexualities.... it just doesn't mean that I am interesting in fucking assholes.... or their assholes

now I may have a mental illness, but I also do not have a pathological obsession with trolling forums and spewing no end of BS under multiple names..... I am still using the same name I originally signed up with, and while I may be a pain in the ass and differcult to deal with at times..... I tend to be a lil more respectful of people.... and I do it without meds and other mind altering substances......

I am curious tho.. masterbenson..... do you need to troll other forums to get sexually aroused and is the level of sexual arousal increased by the insults or the number of people you think you are insulting...... or do you just troll this site as it fits with your bisexual nature.....

[FinkDoodle]

So - ok . . I'm confused . .

What exactly is the problem with straight people of one gender liking bisexual people of the other gender? Nobody ever said this site was exclusively for bi people wanting bi people, right?

I've had the good fortune to meet some wonderful straight women on this site who had nowhere else to go in their search for bi men and each felt like they were the only female in the world with that kind of unconventional interest.

This supposed to be a fun place, so can't we be somewhat accepting of others or are straight people supposed to constitute some kind of threat or competition that I'm somehow missing ?

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

This supposed to be a fun place, so can't we be somewhat accepting of others or are straight people supposed to constitute some kind of threat or competition that I'm somehow missing ?

Because there always has to be Some butthead that has to start trouble and distension. Just slap them on ignore, Hon. Straight folks come here looking for answers and understanding, and those of us that have open hearts, and open minds can help them. Its those that possess neither that are the problem.
Ignore the trolls and idjets Ladies and Gents, and just be here for those that need help and friendship. :}
Cat

[darkeyes]

Apartheid for the sexualities.. nice. A lovely way to foster understanding is it not...??