With Herpes

[AzNakedSunFun]

Hi there - David here in Phoenix. I'm a 25 year member of the Herpes Club in search of others in the same boat for fun and friendship.

If there's any other H'ers out there please drop by and say hello! :bigrin:

[IanBorthwick]

Hello, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt as to you NOT being a troll and giving you some advice...

Herpes is a virus that stays int he body for your entire life, theoretically speaking. It hides in the cells by attaching itself as an RNA strand to the DNA in your cells until tour immune response falls enough to allow it a chance to replicate. The very nature of the disease is one that baffles normal science because it is transmissable even when no outbreaks occur, yet medical science focuses on curtailing the outbreaks by suppressing the immune response, actually HELPING it to be more contagious.

Since you seem to be being responsible and not having sex with persons not carrying the virus, allow me this advice to help you with the symptoms AND the disease itself.

Epiquercican/Epican Forte from Dr Matthias Rath was originally designed as a nutritional supplement for Cancer, but after much research and clinical testing the Rath team discovered that viruses spread in much the same way as Cancer cells. Through an enzyme called neurominidase the viruses we come in contact with eat through the walls of cells in order to get in and out. Through an amazingly researched series of supplements, Dr Rath( a protege of Dr Linus Pauling) discovered the answer to slowing the onslaught of these pathogens.

http://www.drrathresearch.org/discoveries/cancer.html

http://www.drrathresearch.org/discoveries/infections.html

Those two links will show you some of what I am talking about.

Now I move on to Dr Laub, a very famous man in the nutrition circles that has had even less notoriety in the world than Dr Rath despite the amazing nature of his findings. Dr Laub discovered that Humates of a particular size gravitate for some as yet undefined reason to the capsid(outer protein shell) of a virus and stick to it like glue obstructing their ability to attach to cells easily and gain entry. The term is Non-Specific Viral Fusion Inhibitor, or in other words stops them from being able to reproduce.

There have been studies in all kinds of viruses and I personally have seen this stuff stop a Shingles outbreak in 2 days on a lady that had been previously suffering from increasing meds from the doctor and no effect for 8 months. If that was the only time I'd seen it work I would never recommend it, but I have seen it do the job a thousand times over in less than a year after I discovered it.

http://humichealth.info/

I suggest you look over the sites, and this for anyone who suffers from viruses of ALL kinds whether it be flu or colds, shingles, herpes simplex or...anything more pernicious.

And that ends my professional service announcement.

[darkeyes]

Some years ago, I spotted an aboslutely gorgeous girl in a club... she was fun and very amenable to my approaches.. but when we went into the bar I spotted the tell tale sign of a cold sore well camouflaged by very clever make up.. I recoiled hopefully not too obviously or hurtfully.. cold sores are a form of herpes...and for all my wish to be with this girl, for she was bloody astounding, sleeping with her had very quickly become not an option... from mouth to genitals, herpes as a cold sore can easily become herpes on the pussy.. and I no more wish to pass on to another something that I do not wish to catch myself...

[IanBorthwick]

How did you get herpes? Where do you have it? Does it hurt?

Darkeyes that was your loss. I would not let a cold sore stop me from having sex with someone. I just would not have them give me oral sex. Chances are you already have herpes in the form of cold sores or even on your genitals.

These viral sores HURT! It's not her loss, it was a damn smart move. The fact is that there is no real difference OUTWARDLY to a cold sore caused by the Oral version of Herpes and the GENITAL one! Once you get this disease there is no known cure and it hurts like HELL. It burns, it feels like you've got fiery spots on your skin, sometimes you even get sick like you are dealing with a flu for a long long time.

[Hephaestion]

Herpes is a retrovirus. When not visibly active it hides by melding into the victims DNA. It can be transferred (infect someone else) even when not visibly active. All it takes is suitable contact such as moist membranes for quick and assured transfer. Ian has already pointed this out.

Transfer from oral to genital regions is recognised by the medical profession and there are often leaflets warning of this in dentists' waiting rooms.

Credit to AsNakedSunFun for being so forward. Restraint is still urged regardless as it is possible to 'worsen' the infection i.e. it can spread and become more abundant on a host.

Bucolic - Darkeyes did the right thing. Suggest here that you do some reading.

[TaylorMade]

How did you get herpes? Where do you have it? Does it hurt?

Darkeyes that was your loss. I would not let a cold sore stop me from having sex with someone. I just would not have them give me oral sex. Chances are you already have herpes in the form of cold sores or even on your genitals.

Your initial outbreak is super painful and it sucks, sometimes it's accompanied by a fever because, uh... it's a virus. Your first year? It's like every stressor brings it on. Paper Due? Outbreak. SATs? Outbreak. Major recital? Outbreak. But after the first year, year and a half... it goes from every 3 months, every 6 months, then...a year passes. Then two years. Then five. Stress will probably kick it off, but I'm figuring it will take world shaking drama before it happens again, like a divorce, parental death, or something.

A friend of mine has the genital kind, and she said that you can live with it and have a normal life - -you just have to pay attention to your body. Her trigger is (irony!) sex that's too frequent.

The statistics say 1 in 4 adults have it in the US, so... I'm sure there are other people on this forum with it.

*Taylor*

[ubersmack]

The statistics say 1 in 4 adults have it in the US*Taylor*

I would say thats a good statistic to know.

[nottheonlyone]

I would have to agree that major kudos need to go to AsNakedSunFun for being open and forward about it. People can be very judgemental about it. When I cooked to pay my way through college, I had a coworker once request that I no longer prepare or handle food because of a cold sore showing on my lip....

My wife and I have talked about hoping to find someone who already has the virus to join us, but that is not where we are in our relationship.

It has always bugged us. We both discovered that we had the virus at the same time while we were dating, we never were able to figure out who gave it to whom or who we got it from. sometimes shit just happens I guess....

[_Joe_]

Oral Herpes is such a hangup, because now all of a sudden no more kissing and oral sex.

But to fight the ignorance of it, you should know the facts.

http://www.herpesonline.org/faq.html

Up to 80 percent of Americans have the most common form of herpes (HSV-1) at some time. It usually appears as oral herpes and is most often spread without sexual contact.

Another website I can't find now, breaks down the percentages down by age groups. I read by 90% of 60 year olds have one form of herpes or the other.

Q: Who is most susceptible to herpes?

A: Anyone who has sex; this includes vaginal, oral, or anal contact. But most people with genital herpes never recognize the signs of infection. So there are lots of people who have herpes and don’t even know it.

I also read the #1 spreader of oral herpes is family members, most often kids/parents/family members that kiss each other for whatever reason.

There's a lot to read about honestly. Educate yourself! There are a few vaccines being tested, available in Europe my wife tells me but not in the US due to the FDA taking forever to OK anything.

[Paragon]

I would say thats a good statistic to know.

Sure, if its from a credible sourse, but "the statistics say...." is hardly akin to the DCD or even CNN!

What is the source of that 25% of the population statistic, TaylorMade?

[12voltman59]

Gential Herpes information from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention:

http://www.cdc.gov/std/Herpes/default.htm

According to the CDC the rate of herpes infection in the US is 16.2%--not as high as others have said--but still pretty high.

[ubersmack]

According to the CDC the rate of herpes infection in the US is 16.2%--not as high as others have said--but still pretty high.

And still good to know. :)

[TaylorMade]

Sure, if its from a credible sourse, but "the statistics say...." is hardly akin to the DCD or even CNN!

What is the source of that 25% of the population statistic, TaylorMade?

I realize now the number was coming from a subset of the population. . . women - - Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0923528620100309)

And it's worse when you pare it down to black women. Nearly half of us. (http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2010/03/genital_herpes_infection_hold.html)

I mis-remembered the statistics, but wasn't too far off base.

*Taylor*

[_Joe_]

Gential Herpes information from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention:

http://www.cdc.gov/std/Herpes/default.htm

According to the CDC the rate of herpes infection in the US is 16.2%--not as high as others have said--but still pretty high.

Oral Herpes and Genital Herpes are two different herpes, thus the two different percentages.

[AzNakedSunFun]

The study finds that women and blacks were most likely to be infected. HSV-2 prevalence was nearly twice as high among women (20.9 percent) than men (11.5 percent), and was more than three times higher among blacks (39.2 percent) than whites (12.3 percent). The most affected group was black women, with a prevalence rate of 48 percent.

48% for the Sista demographic? Now we're talkin' about some data I can sink my teeth in!

Pardon me as I head off to find my local hot black chick gathering places. :three:

Note to self: must finally learn to dance....:bigrin: