I Took The Bait

[fredtyg]

I'm sure at least some of you have seen those clever Progene ads (http://www.progene.com) on TV lately. They make it look like a pharma commercial and suggest taking these pills can raise your testosterone levels and thus your overall energy and sex drive.

I was thinking about trying it after watching the commercials. Last night the wife saw the commercial and suggested maybe I should try it. That was all the encouragement I needed. I went online and ordered the "free" one month supply, except it's not completely free as they charge you almost $10.00 for shipping.

Almost immediately after making the order I got a little suspicious as I realized it's probably not an actual drug or they couldn't just send you a free sample without a prescription. I looked into it this morning and it's a combination of herbs and such. Pretty clever how they copied the Viagra/ Cialis ad format to make it seem like some legit drug.

But, maybe it will have some effect. Nearly all drugs have some organic base to them, don't they? I'll try this stuff out and let you all know if I feel any difference.

[welickit]

You should have researched a bit before buying. There is an entire blog of complaints against them. If it sounds to good to be true, it is. You can get the same ingredients at Wal - Mart without the membership fee or the $69.95 for a month supply.

[fredtyg]

You should have researched a bit before buying. There is an entire blog of complaints against them.

I looked this morning but didn't find the blog and looking at the prices I probably couldn't afford it, anyway, but it will be interesting to see if I feel any difference after taking it for a month.

[fredtyg]

Looking once again, I found this page (http://www.themanschoice.com/Progene.html) that seems to be an even handed look at Progene. There's even a link to the blog of dissatisfied customers mentioned above.

One ingredient they say is missing from Progene is Yohimbe, which is supposed to have some effect on soft weenies.

Some of the complaints seem rather lame to me. Guys are saying it didn't "give me an erection", or some such, as if it's supposed to give you a boner with no effort on your part. Even viagra or cialis don't give you hard ons unless you're horny to begin with so I wonder if they might be misjudging its application?

The one IMPORTANT complaint I did see was a guy saying that they automatically sign you up for monthly deliveries if you order the free trial. That's bs and I've had other companies do, or try to do, that to me before and makes me wonder if I got snookered.

I went back to their site and tried reordering the free trial and didn't see any fine print about being automatically signed up for monthly deliveries so maybe it happened to that guy earlier on and they stopped doing it? I'll be keeping an eye out for any such skullduggery.

[Doggiestyle]

:bigrin: Hey now,,,,be careful about this because. If you keep this kind of activity up, and if you become a master at it. Well, just let it be said that we all know what kind of reputation you will have. :bigrin: Needless to say that if you do become a master at taking "the bait" then I guess that we could say that it worked, HUH???

NO, I'm not talking to myself, I'm merely thinking out loud! That's all. :rolleyes:

Your friend, :doggie:

[welickit]

If you google "progene complaints" you will find oodles of people being charged for something they didn't know they were ordering. All of them saw no results except a big bill on their credit card. Their bill had an erection of $99.99 once shipping was added. Now they are having problems stopping the charges.

[IanBorthwick]

Sorry to point this out, but that's a supplement. No supplement made by a reputable person will EVER tell you it can boost your testosterone. The only thing you can do with nutritional supplements is hope to slow the conversion to DHT that causes damage to prostate and hair line, or free up bound testosterone from receptor sites that are unable to be set into the blood stream. That's it. No increase above the base line testosterone has EVER been noted by ANY nutritional supplement ever that was not the mechanisms I have just described, and in most of them the successes, they did not have an appreciable increase in blood serum testosterone. What it did have was an increase in Testosterone activity. This means the following:

Increase in Muscle Mass
Increase in Cognitive Function
Increase in Sense of Well Being
Increase in Sex Drive
Improvement in hand Eye Coordination
Reduction in systemic pain
Reduction in secondary female characteristics
Decrease in depression
Improved healing times

Now buying something from a fly-by-night company like this will sour anyone to nutritional supplements because there are phonies out there, but it's a damn sight better than betting on a drug whose side-effects are downplayed and increase with age. If you are in need of the assistance of more Testosterone in your life, there are Longevity Doctors in the world, MDs that have followed the research done on medically applied testosterone to men and applied it. And there are MANY cities right now looking to enroll men for the 4 wave of 5 year studies on low dose Test replacement now, and you should look into it. But hanging your hat on a supplement that NO reputable company would make these claims on was foolish.

I don't want to whip a dead horse but here's how you know this stuff is Bull: If you cannot find it in a GNC, Lassen's, Sprouts, Whole Foods or your state or countries analog to these establishments( and I DON'T mean pharmacies! Getting nutrition or supplement advice form a pharmacist is like going to a car repairman to get a broken bone set) then you are looking at a Snake Oil product and should not waste your time or money.