If a man enjoys a woman pegging him but feels content without having any need/ desire for sexual intimate contact with another man, is he bisexual?
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Is he just a heterosexual guy who likes his prostrate stimulated by women?
Is penetration all that there is to make a bi guy? or Is there more to making a man bisexual?
Last edited by tenni; May 14, 2013 at 2:49 PM.
I think that its whatever mentally stimulates us, and not what physically stimulates us that sexuality is based on. If the pegee is thinking of a man while being pegged, then I'd say he has a sexual attraction to males which makes him either bi or gay. If thinking of a man turns him off, then he is just enjoying his prostrate being massaged.
A male can fuck a big masc hairy bloke up his male arse with his rock hard aroused cock and cum bucket loads all over him and still be heterosexual. That's IF he keeps it in his mind that he is fucking a female and at no time gets aroused due to the fact that it's a male. Same thing with homosexual males fucking their wives. I've heard many times how they had to think of men to stay hard.
IMO it's not WHAT you do, but WHERE your head is when you do it.
There is no such thing as 'gay sex' or 'straight sex'! It's ALL just sex, and the sexuality of the the participants has nothing to do with the genders involved.
I've had homosexual and heterosexual arousal during sex with the same man in the same sexual session. Not that I told him.LOL
It's basically the same thing as masturbation - a gay bloke and het bloke does exactly the same thing with their hands, but get aroused thinking of different genders. It's purely mental.
Well that's what I think.
A more interesting topic would be women who claim they "enjoy" or are "Satisfied" by "pegging" a "man". Only a woman that has been raped or has been fucked very hard up the ass or cunt a few times would claim that fucking a man with a strapon dildo is "Empowering" or "Satisfying". I've never bottomed for a man and I sure as hell am not going to bottom for a woman or for anyone. If other men want to do it that's fine but it's not something myself and most men-bisexual, gay, and heterosexual are interested in.
i agree totally with gear box its whats in your mind that makes the difference....// but this raises an interesting question for me... im a girl and love being a girl and love sex as a girl but all my life ive frequently fantasized that -im- a man during sex... even when im by myself.
im not gay or bi, im not attracted to women at all, i also dont want to -be- a man either.... however ive always found it a turn on to imagine ive got a penis during sex.... i dont really imagine im a man... i imagine i am me, but with a penis. now what in the hell is -that- ?? i guess that probably makes me some variaton of 'normal' hahaha. also i never heard of strap ons or any of that stuff before basically this year. i just think its a turn on to have a penis soemtimes. (I mean guys you enjoy it right)
still in not gay or bi at all... (really im pretty sure about that) it just turns me on mentally and this was true long before i ever heard of pegging.
i realize its also a big turn on to be the dominant one. being in top as a girl is totally different from being on top as a 'guy'. its different mentally. i like it.
I disagree with your statement. My girlfriend enjoys pegging me and I enjoy being pegged, and neither of us were ever raped. She enjoys "being in charge" (empowered) and giving me extreme pleasure (which she finds satisfying). Given that you have no experience receiving anal sex you may be projecting an assumption that anal sex is the equivalent of a painful rape, which is not my experience or the experience of most anal enthusiasts that I know.Originally Posted by Young pussy and dope
I think there's way more to it, Tenni. Some men who identify as gay or bi don't even like anal, giving or receiving. Do you like to suck cock? I do and that's one reason I identify as bi. I agree with Gearbox...the brain is the most important sexual organ.If a man enjoys a woman pegging him but feels content without having any need/ desire for sexual intimate contact with another man, is he bisexual?
or
Is he just a heterosexual guy who likes his prostrate stimulated by women?
Is penetration all that there is to make a bi guy? or Is there more to making a man bisexual?
An even more interesting topic would be people who make laughably blanket generalizations in multiple incarnations after multiple bannings. Do they truly lack any kind of imagination, or are they just trying to be provocative for selfish reasons?
I sometimes wonder whether it's the young pussy or the dope who does most of your posts. In this case it's clear.
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To the point of the OP, it seems to me that a man wanting a woman to "peg" him (hate that word, but there it is) is no more homosexual than two women enjoying one another with a strap-on, feeldoe, double-dildo, etc. is heterosexual...or one man fucking another man anally is heterosexual.
There is who you are attracted to (this determines sexuality) and then there is what you like to do with them...which is purely a matter of taste. Some men like to be penetrated...some women don't like to be penetrated...some women like to penetrate...I'm sure some men don't like to penetrate...it all is down to taste, not to sexuality. Fortunately, between nature and modern technology, we all have the means to enjoy whichever variations we find appealing.
I hope my achievements in life shall be these: that I will have fought for what was right and fair, that I will have risked for that which mattered, that I will have given help to those who were in need...that I will have left the earth a better place for what I've done and who I've been. (C. Hoppe)
I have to admit that the first time a girlfriend did me from behind with her strap-on (hadn't ever heard the word "pegging" yet) it was fun and exciting and enjoyable for both of us. She was curious about it, I was willing, we'd both had a couple drinks, and she was okay with taking her time and letting me get used to being stretched out back there. I was thrilled to be able to offer her a willing partner so she could be on the other end of the penetration transaction for a change, and she enjoyed slamming into me once she knew I was not in pain. But, of course, it made me even more determined to experience the real thing--hard, hot, throbbing manhood, with a real man attached!
Re: Wondering about guys who like being pegged
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You either like dick, or you don't like dick.
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I have to say, Annika, I agree with both your posts immediately above, especially the first, about "young dope."
I'm thinking a guy could enjoy anal penetration (being pegged) and still be hetero if only because I know such a guy...kinda. To make things a bit confusing, I did fool around with him on a handful of occasions as he enjoyed getting head, but I'm not sure I'd call him bisexual, at least at the time we were fooling around.
He was pretty much into women and told me he enjoyed his girlfriend sticking her finger up his butt when they were having sex. The two of them also bought some anal toys. I'm sure he's not the only guy that would be considered hetero but enjoys stuff up his ass.
However, I think he could very well become bisexual if given time and the right circumstances. He enjoyed me sucking his cock, but only allowed that when the girlfriend wasn't around. If time would have allowed, I think he could have gotten comfortable enough with m2m sex he might have even considered himself bisexual.
In other words, if things would have developed between us as I'd hoped, and we ended up naked in bed kissing and having sex, at that point I would consider him bisexual. As it was, I was more of a convenience for his need to get off when the gal wasn't available. But he was coming along...
What I don't understand is how a woman could enjoy pegging a guy. At least I don't see how there could be any physical pleasure for them.
Disagree. Some guys just want their dick sucked- any port in a storm, if you will- but have no real sexual interest in men. Certainly many of them may come to develop a sexual interest in men, but I'd consider them hetero, with the exception of guys who go cruising gay spots for blow jobs and then call themselves straight.
There is a fine line, though, and I think if things developed as I'd hoped with that guy I might have had the pleasure of seeing him cross the fine line to bisexuality. He was almost there, imo.
What about those homosexuals who have sex with their husbands/wives for years, raise kids etc then come out as ALWAYS been gay? Are they closet heterosexuals/bisexuals in denial?
You never hear of a closet heterosexual.
I'd say it takes one Hell of an imagination to fuck a watermelon to climax. That imagination can be used to fuck a blokes mouth too IMO. And who hasn't pretended they are fucking someone other than the person they are fucking?
I agree that men who some men want to claim are "straight" and who have sex with men but like to claim they are "Straight" are just bisexual or even gay men who are in denial of their sexuality and don't want to admit that they're something other than heterosexual. This applies even if they're just into getting oral sex as this is common among bi and gay men. The men who are bisexual who are in denial could just as easily have sex with a woman or find a steady female partner yet they're having sex with a man and are anything but heterosexual. Actually Gearbox I don't fantasize about anyone during sex since that's what masturbation is for and when my husband and I have sex we just focus totally on each other. We're not even that into watching porn since to us it's very silly, scripted, not real sex, and full of drug addicted twinks and Valley girls who are prostitutes.
Depending on the harness/strap-on/feeldoe being used, there can be quite a *lot* of physical pleasure involved in penetrating someone.
I hope my achievements in life shall be these: that I will have fought for what was right and fair, that I will have risked for that which mattered, that I will have given help to those who were in need...that I will have left the earth a better place for what I've done and who I've been. (C. Hoppe)
aw yeah i just found the 'ignore' feature suddenly everythign is nicer @
Stop embarrassing yourself. Your attempts to provoke are laughable, and it just makes you look and sound like a silly person.
By the way, I didn't say a dildo was a viable substitute for a real penis. I said a woman can get quite a lot of physical pleasure from being the "top" with a harness/strap-on/feeldoe.
I hope my achievements in life shall be these: that I will have fought for what was right and fair, that I will have risked for that which mattered, that I will have given help to those who were in need...that I will have left the earth a better place for what I've done and who I've been. (C. Hoppe)
LOL You should try taking your bigotry and empty preconceptions into the real world!
Being a top is 100% in the mind...as is everything else, for that matter.
I hope my achievements in life shall be these: that I will have fought for what was right and fair, that I will have risked for that which mattered, that I will have given help to those who were in need...that I will have left the earth a better place for what I've done and who I've been. (C. Hoppe)
People using strapon dildos sexually seems to be a very small percentage of people. Most bisexual women and men, heterosexuals, gay men, and even lesbian women-who are stereotyped as using them the most- are for the most part not into using strapon dildos during sex. If someone else wants to use a dildo during sex that's OK with me but it's not something my husband and I have an interest in doing and we find the use of dildos in porn to be silly but porn itself does not show real sex or real people unless you're into twinks and Valley girls who are prostitutes with drug problems.
Ever the response of the bigot.
One wonders where you obtained your vast store of knowledge. Do you actually have a degree in psychology that you have such authoritative insight into every person's background and psyche? Do you have publications from studies you've done? Or are you so brilliant that this is all just common sense to you? Certainly your parents didn't teach you such rubbish?
I hope my achievements in life shall be these: that I will have fought for what was right and fair, that I will have risked for that which mattered, that I will have given help to those who were in need...that I will have left the earth a better place for what I've done and who I've been. (C. Hoppe)
Yes, absolutely true...I would never claim otherwise. But it is not what you said before. Previously your statement was more to the tune that "women [not *some* women or even *most* women, but women generally] who are into fucking women and/or men with dildos have issues with rage, rape [etc.]" That is not truth, and is not something that a person who has done real research or understands anything about what science can ascertain would ever claim. I won't say you're lying about the Ph.D. ...but I have serious doubts.
I haven't quite got a lock yet, but I'm getting there. Is it bullying for a sense of false power that you engage in, because you lack self-esteem and real empowerment? Or do you just like to try to push people's buttons for you own personal amusement? Hmmm...if you have background in psychology, perhaps you could comment on whether these two dynamics are really one and the same?
I hope my achievements in life shall be these: that I will have fought for what was right and fair, that I will have risked for that which mattered, that I will have given help to those who were in need...that I will have left the earth a better place for what I've done and who I've been. (C. Hoppe)
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“it seems to me that a man wanting a woman to "peg" him (hate that word, but there it is) is no more homosexual than two women enjoying one another with a strap-on, feeldoe, double-dildo, etc. is heterosexual...or one man fucking another man anally is heterosexual.”
Annika
Perhaps, I did not communicate clearly. I had made a statement about a man wanting a woman to peg him not two same sex people involved sexually. The man being pegged by a woman is a different dynamics than the other two situations that you gave. I agree that attraction is generally used to determine sexuality.
I have read several men identifying as bisexual on the site state that they like their female partner to penetrate them by pegging. I wonder if this satiates their sexual needs as well as the usual opposite gender sexual intercourse? I get the impression that it/pegging satiates their need (which seems to put anal penetration as the key sexual interest not being sexually with a man as well as a woman sexually and/or romantically emotional?) . Some bisexual men may not want penetration. Having sex with a female partner will do little for these bisexual men to meet their same sex needs. Their needs seem different from the man saying that he is bisexual but his wife penetrating him is enough. He doesn’t need actual sexual contact with a man. Is a man being sexually satisfied by a woman penetrating him bisexual or heterosexual?(if he has no need /desire to be with a man sexually and or emotionally)
Last edited by tenni; May 16, 2013 at 2:39 PM.
annika if he had a degree in -anything- he wouldnt always use the exact same, (very very short) words......... he seems capable of about 3 sentences and they are always the same. ( women have been raped, all men do this or that) he probably looked those up on a website called ' how to troll' dont confuse him hes obviously not very smart.
honestly from reading the threads about strap on stuff here it seems that even bi or gay peopel who like it often just like it cause of how it feels as a stand alone thing with the individual person they are with.... or even because they like the way it turns their partner on... not necessarily cause they are imagingin they are with a guy at the time...
in other words im saying maybbe even gay or bi people, just like it cause they like it and it really doesnt matter which sex is doing it. and if they at other times want guys for other reasons or use it to imagine they are actually with a guy they yeah they are probly bi.... if they dont then maybe they just like that kind of sex.
id be interested to know, -are- the people who enjoy it actually pretending they are with a guy at the time? is that the point for them, or are they just enjoying it for what it is with the person they are with whether they are bi or gay or straight?
Last edited by cherry88; May 16, 2013 at 3:13 PM.
Hi Cherry
I think that your first paragraph about gay and bisexual people is a separate issue other than yes of course, a man being penetrated usually enjoys it if they are asking a female partner to peg them. Whether the female enjoys it or is happy to give pleasure to the man is irrelevant to my question. I seem to be failing to identify the issue here..lol
This is about the man being pegged and whether he is heterosexual. I suspect that there are men who see themselves as heterosexual who enjoy a finger up their butt. That may grow to pegging. They may never see themselves as gay or bisexual. Yet, we have male posters on this site stating that they like their female partner pegging them. They don't need another man as that works for them. Yet, they say that they are bisexual and fine with the female pegging them..no man needed?
Your last paragraph is interesting but I would guess if a man is being pegged by a woman and thinking of a man penetrating him that he is definitely NOT in the category that I am referring to.
Last edited by tenni; May 16, 2013 at 3:16 PM.
Yes, I am forever doing that. I have viciously attacked every man who has suggested such things. My rage and aggression are there in every post for all to see. I'm such a bad person. Shocking I've not yet been banned in 7 years (as opposed to you, who has been banned, what? has it been 7 times yet just in one year?).
I hope my achievements in life shall be these: that I will have fought for what was right and fair, that I will have risked for that which mattered, that I will have given help to those who were in need...that I will have left the earth a better place for what I've done and who I've been. (C. Hoppe)
I guess I feel it's still all down to taste, though. If a man enjoys being penetrated, then he does. If in addition, he is attracted to men, then he probably enjoys being penetrated by men; if he is attracted to women (exclusively or in addition to men), then he probably enjoys being penetrated by women.
Certainly some men who are bisexual and with a woman (whether or not they've figured out their bisexuality) may use penetration by a female partner as a way to explore his feelings or stoke his fantasies about being with men. But unlike some people in this forum, I get the difference between "some" and "all". I would hesitate even to say that most men who like being penetrated by a woman are using it to fantasize about men. But again, I'm sure some (maybe even "many") do.
I hope my achievements in life shall be these: that I will have fought for what was right and fair, that I will have risked for that which mattered, that I will have given help to those who were in need...that I will have left the earth a better place for what I've done and who I've been. (C. Hoppe)
"If in addition, he is attracted to men, then he probably enjoys being penetrated by men; if he is attracted to women (exclusively or in addition to men), then he probably enjoys being penetrated by women."
Thanks Annika
Yet, some men say they are bisexual but not need to be with a man if the woman is penetrating them. This is group that I am curious about their sexuality. Pegging seems to be enough for them. Why? Maybe, I don't get it because I am a bisexual man who does not want to be penetrated by anyone...lol
Tenni, I do understand your point as for the last 4 years I almost fall into that category. My wife's voracious appetite for using her feeldoe on me does satisfy my need for anal penetration as well as her need to occasionally step out of her normally sexually submissive being. But because I have very willingly had sex with men, I do identify myself as bi and have for many years. The kinda strange twist is, she was pegging me ( ya know, now that I typed it, don't think I care too much for that term either...for some reason makes me think of a cheap Errol Flynn pirate movie) for about a year and a half thinking I was straight. She didn't ask, I didn't tell until she did ask. I don't think she was that naïve about it, more she was just happy to have found someone that would let her indulge herself in her particular turn on and left it at that. Also, while her fucking me is very satisfying and I consider her to be the best that I ever had fuck me, man or woman, I do still have the desire to have sex with a man should the right circumstances ever arise. Never say never ya know
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