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  1. #271

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    i disagree in some cases......i think some guys get even more inhibited as they get older. also as u get older u tend to be less horny so less likely to fuck just anything that moves. although that doesn't mean ur less likely to fall in love with "anything that moves"

  2. #272

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    Not sure if I commented on this post, but, I think older men are bi (or have bi-tendencies) depending on their childhood (doesn't have to be anything unlawful and/or serious), or if they were born that way. Based on that, its to them to decide when to come to terms with being bi and 'being with' other men. Age doesn't really have to do anything with it. Some men have sex with another man (or have a relationship) for the first time when they're older. Others have been with other men for years. For others, its also a phase.

    In my case, I knew I was sexually attracted to certain men in my mid-20's based on experiences I've had earlier as a kid (with other boys my age from my friend to my cousins) and started then. Other guys may have their first relationship with a man in their 60's or 80's. Depends on them.

    But, they're either born that way or have had brief moments during their childhood (again, nothing unlawful).

  3. #273

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    That is a great, concise & honest Post! Since 1987, I have been a Practicing LIFE Counselor {Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology}, now age 60, & have had a few hundred Male Clients who needed to discuss their own Bisexuality issues/questions -- all very similar to Yours.

    Addressing your questions & comments, there are MANY answers and explanations that are relevant to your Post, just too many to list here! (1) We grew up during the Time of the first, freest & most non-judgemental state of Human Sexuality in World History! (2) And we have lived in one of the most Sexually-Open Societies {the U.S.A.} on Earth! (3) Think back 20-40 years ago: Not only was there no anonymous way of 'talking' to lots of other Men about these subjects, it just didn't happen as much as it does today because of (a) natural Human Sexual hangups, (b) the relative ignorance of & the lack of Scientific information about Sex & Human Sexuality {two completely different subjects}, (c) and for a dozen other significant reasons! (4) This evolution {passage} of Time {starting with the 1960s "Sexual Revolution"} has Naturally increased our openness, our willingness AND OUR NEED to be natural, total, Whole Sexual Beings. (5) By that, I include the Scientific reality learned in Sexual-Psychological Research starting just 60 years ago, that most Humans ARE Naturally Sexually 'varied'. (6) Ask any Psychotherapist who Practices in today's World & you will get the same answers: Americans & the populations in the 'First World' Countries are more NATURALLY curious & open about their own Sexuality and Society's Sexual attitudes & values. (7) As a result of this profound amount of change & knowledge occurring in such a Scientifically-short timespan, it is natural for everyone whose Bi-ness is surfacing to be confused & unsure about Our awareness of it and what & how each of us should proceed with our individual needs to express It {experience It}. (8) But it is essential for our Mental Health to be Sexually satisfied! Even though that will be different for each one of us, the most negative action we can & should take is doing nothing! Because the longer we go doing nothing about our Bi-Sexual needs/wants, the more Mental anguish & actual Physical harm we do to Ourselves! (9) We must do everything we can to not let so-called immorality and/or negative Societal judgements influence our behavior in ways that do not please us -- no matter what actions we feel we should do or should not do! (10) I can share this with You: Most (95+%) of the hundreds of my Male Clients, all Married and/or predominantly Straight, who satisfied their Bisexual need(s) in whatever manner & degree was Natural for them, were & are satisfied with how their decisions positively changed their Lives! (11) Just remember, Sex is Natural, feels good and expressing It is Essential to being happy & having a Fulfilled Life!! (12) BTW, I'm not just a 'talker'. I'm a doer too.
    Last edited by OlderGuys; Mar 11, 2017 at 7:12 PM. Reason: forgot to add a fact

  4. #274

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    Absolutely correct!

  5. #275

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    Quote Originally Posted by Redo7163 View Post
    I think we ALL have a Bi tendency at any given point in our life. I think that as we get older we’re less inhibited.
    I've become less inhibited as I've gotten older . . Also I've become more liberal in my thinking as I've gotten older.

  6. #276

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    Ive noticed this as well older seems to be turning bi. I think most men are already bi but affraid to act on it or except it. Also there wives stop giving it up and men are horny bastards. Ive had no thoughts since early teens and had a hard time accepting it.
    As I get older I have been defenetly turning more bi...

  7. #277

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    thanks so much olderguy it was great to hear ur words of support! for years i have been struggling to understand my feelings. i need to hear words like urs, that we're naturally sexually varied & shouldn't let others tell us it's wrong. ur also right about the frustration sometimes all i can think about is trying things with a guy! i think i would be more at peace after i finally did it. i wanna be able to say on my deathbed, i did it with a guy. whether i liked it or not but didn't regret trying. 95% of guys can't be wrong lol.

  8. #278

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    If you consider 45 'old' then yes. I did some playtime when I was a kid with a neighbor friend. But it was fairly innocent experimentation wasn't until my forties that I became curious and then acted on that curiosity

  9. #279

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    I started my sexual interaction with males when I was 8 or 9. I dabbled throughout my teens and twenties, but 99% of my sexual attraction was to females. I think part of the reason I didn't pursue more male sex was because I was closeted and feared the repercussions of being outed because of the social stigma associated with being bi or gay. Now that I am older I am far less inhibited and that lack of inhibition has fueled my pursuit of cock. Also, thanks to the internet, social media, and a far more liberated society much of the stigma has disappeared AND more men are readily available.

  10. #280

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    My sexuality has evolved as I have aged. My first sexual experience was with a guy, before I reached puberty. I sucked his dick, he sucked mine. I liked it well enough to ask to suck his cock throughout that summer. I reached puberty, learned to masturbate and chased pussy. Girls were my goal for sex. Until one night I was propositioned by a guy. I declined the offer, but something deep inside me resonated with the idea of being sexually active with a guy.

    Pussy was still the main goal, so I got married. I started feeling the urge to explore man on man sex and with the wife's blessing we went out one evening seeking a male playmate. We didn't find one. I met a fellow at the local spa and got together with him. The chemistry was missing, so it was a one time affair. For various reasons, my wife and I divorced.

    I was single again and had the urge to explore my sexuality. I answered some ads in a local paper and got together with a really sweet gay guy. The sex was great, I loved sucking his cock and swallowing his cum. After I ejaculated I had an intense feeling of guilt. It changed the experience from joy to feeling I had done something very wrong. I wasn't raised in a climate of acceptance to homosexuality. In fact, it was frowned on. My guilt eventually passed, but I lost the relationship with that sweet gay guy. Today I wish I had handled the situation differently, I am interested in knowing what that guy would have taught me about homosexuality.

    Women were still on the radar for me, but it hasn't been easy. I would visit the ABS once in a while, do the glory hole routine, both getting sucked and sucking. Gay porno was, remains, my preference, but I was concerned of the other patrons thinking I was gay if they looked in or heard, not admitting we were all there for the same thing. I did think most of the others were straight. I was taken home by a few different guys and loved being stark naked with a man, the feel of another man's penis in my hand and mouth. And then the payoff, the cum.

    I was 69ing with a woman one night and she made me realize that I was meant to pleasure men. I wanted to suck cock as well as she did. Our relationship changed that night, fucking was ok, but I had a desire to suck cock, especially when my cock is sucked.

    I dated a psychiatric nurse that told me we are all bisexual, bolstering my desire for gay sex.

    I met a nice woman and got married again. The sex was fabulous at first. Then as years progressed, the sex diminished. The first to go was oral sex, then all sex. The wife had lost all interest.

    The older I get, the more I feel the need for gay sex. My interest has turned primarily to men. I appreciate seeing a woman's body, but a man's body gets the blood flowing and the salivary glands working.

    I have met with several men and been more sexually satisfied than with a woman. There is no guilt with it. I consider myself a homosexual. I know being on my knees with a penis in my mouth shooting cum is my sexual place in life, where I choose to be.



    delpark

  11. #281

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    Well good for you to finally realize that cock is meant to be sucked and swallowed...

  12. #282

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    Normally men have more testosterone than estrogen. But as we age that changes and the testosterone gets weaker and the estrogen hormone gets stronger. So in some way it starts to change our orientation from in our early years only wanting women to wanting a bi sexual life style later.

  13. #283

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    Quote Originally Posted by cuthwulf View Post
    Normally men have more testosterone than estrogen. But as we age that changes and the testosterone gets weaker and the estrogen hormone gets stronger. So in some way it starts to change our orientation from in our early years only wanting women to wanting a bi sexual life style later.
    This is a good point. Also our society is more tolerant to people of different sexual orientations that it was say 25 years ago. Depending on where you live.

  14. #284

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    really hope society keeps being more tolerant as time goes by. so many people are naturally not str8 it's cruel to tell them it's wrong & force them to be something there not.

  15. #285

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    I have craved men all my life. Society did not allow us to be open about it until recently.I was afraid to get caught making love to a man then.

  16. #286

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    I am 59 years of age and over the last 14 years my bi-curious interest has grown tremendously. One factor that is often mentioned is that women tend to lose interest in sex and as a result hetro sex seems to become rare or non-existent. Men however seem to have a constant desire for sex which may contribute as to why bi-sex becomes less of a taboo. This definitely plays a large part as to why I want to pursue bi-sex.


    I allowed a much older male to perform oral sex on me a few times in my late teens/early twenties, but I also struggled with the guilt associated with having had sexual contact with another male, so I suppressed all bisex interest until about 12 years ago. Today I so want to experience performing and receiving oral sex with another male, however I just cannot seem to get over the possible guilt I would feel afterwards for two reasons; the first one is that I have never cheated on my partner and secondly I still remember how horrible I felt after allowing another male to perform oral on me. There is also the issue of STD's and of course being found out which I believe for a lot of us would be devastating.


    I spend 75% of my time looking at bi-sex porn and masturbate to such porn almost every day. My fantasies go way beyond just having oral with another male, but fantasy and reality are two very different things and being able to have a regular JO/Blow buddy would be great.


    Society has definitely become more accepting of bi-sex, but for many of us in our 40's or older, who are discovering our desire for bi-sex, we still have to overcome the values that were instilled in us in our youth. I may or may never experience touching and performing oral on another male, but my fantasies and desires will always be there and I will continue to enjoy these fantasies without any guilty feelings.

  17. #287

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    Quote Originally Posted by mike_smallwood View Post
    I am 59 years of age and over the last 14 years my bi-curious interest has grown tremendously. One factor that is often mentioned is that women tend to lose interest in sex and as a result hetero sex seems to become rare or non-existent. Men however seem to have a constant desire for sex which may contribute as to why bi-sex becomes less of a taboo. This definitely plays a large part as to why I want to pursue bi-sex.
    Like most generalizations, there is a bit of truth in the statement that women lose interest in sex as they get older. However, as they say, Your Mileage My Vary. I can say this with some confidence because I've been dating for the last 7 years since my divorce and with the exception of one who was more inclined to be a lesbian, all of the women I've been involved with have been very eager to have sex. My current 67 yo girlfriend, whom I'm in the process of buying a house with, is an absolute tiger in bed. I certainly don't doubt mike_smallwood's comments about his situation. I've run into a lot of men who say the same thing. But believe me, there's a lot of older women out there who not only are willing to provide sex, but are really looking forward to it.

    As for the changes in men's attitudes toward bi sex, I believe that society's attitudes toward bisexuals has not changed very much. Most people would probably still consider two married men having sex together as "cheating".The reason that there's more bisexual older men is because we are the rebellious generation, fighting authority since we were kids with long hair. Now that we're in our golden years, we could care even less what people think about us.

  18. #288

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    my experiancce is different from urs but we do have alot in common. i have done nothing ever with a guy & i never even thought of being with a guy unitll my early 20's. but when that happened i felt alot of what u have felt. alot of guilt getting excited about thinking about it. even though i knew rationaly it's absolutely ok, in fact it's good to think outside the box like that, no pun intended lol. it's been years, well actually decades, & i'm still working on accepting it but i have come a longway! still confused af but that's ok. over such years i have had alot of time to think about it & just accept it & begin to embrace it. whatever it is, remember i'm confused lol. i think what has also helped me is the internet. there really weren't so many forums & chats back then. i'm still having trouble chatting & emailing the right guys long enough to meet them, but lately i have found alot of supportive people online........including here so thanks guys xxx ooo so meeting my 1st guy is gonna be very nervous & i might feel guilty afterwards like u did those years ago. but then again have u considered, is any of that guilt is it because the person was much older? still i remember feeling guilty after j/o thinking about guys. then i would loose interest for months. now i usually feel some guilt but in 5 minutes i can be ready to enjoy thoughts about guys. how it will happen for real, who knows? will i loose interest right away? or if i stick through how will i feel afterwards? but right now i'm torturing myself asking what if? they say it's better to regret something u did than regret something u didn't do. so i think it's the right thing for me to go for it. if i like it do it again (& again & again & again.........lol) but if i hate it at least i tried it for real & know why i don't like it. most likely i think i'd still be confused. but overtime if i keep myself open to the right people i will begin to understand. std's are definately something to think about that's another reason the right guy is so important. personally i wouldnt go to an abs or sauna or something like that. plus i wouldn't feel comfortable being naked with a total stranger. but everyone has gotta make that decision. but everyone should consider there are std's out there & u should consider smart decisions. the only real problem with u is ur with someone. i don't really wanna call it a problem in fact its the best thing in the world to be with the right person. so u gotta ask ursef what's more important, ur wife/gf or this curiosity? no right or wrong answer here but it's something u gotta ask urself & stick to it. i know if i had a wife/gf i would like to be able to talk about this with her, & if she told me she wanted to explore i would at least resepct her feelings & i would try hard to give her my blessing to do it. but let's be real, sex outside of a marriage/relationship can be a bad thing. even if it's under these circumstances. swingers seem to be able to pull it off for example, but if u ask a swinger they will most likely say it's more challenging. i don't know ur situation very good so i'm not saying u should or would continue sleeping around with 1 guy or many guys. but even once can bring up feelings u might not of expected. i'm sure u have thought of something like that because u said u may or may never experience touching and performing oral on another male. do u love ur partner enough to sacrifice ever doing anything with a guy? sacrifice is a great expresson of love. but its ok if u choose not too. that's why it's a choice, if it wasn't a choice it wouldn't be special. but u should be fair to everyone involved. not an easy thing to do, maybe even scary. but u can figure it out eventually.
    Quote Originally Posted by mike_smallwood View Post
    I am 59 years of age and over the last 14 years my bi-curious interest has grown tremendously. One factor that is often mentioned is that women tend to lose interest in sex and as a result hetro sex seems to become rare or non-existent. Men however seem to have a constant desire for sex which may contribute as to why bi-sex becomes less of a taboo. This definitely plays a large part as to why I want to pursue bi-sex.


    I allowed a much older male to perform oral sex on me a few times in my late teens/early twenties, but I also struggled with the guilt associated with having had sexual contact with another male, so I suppressed all bisex interest until about 12 years ago. Today I so want to experience performing and receiving oral sex with another male, however I just cannot seem to get over the possible guilt I would feel afterwards for two reasons; the first one is that I have never cheated on my partner and secondly I still remember how horrible I felt after allowing another male to perform oral on me. There is also the issue of STD's and of course being found out which I believe for a lot of us would be devastating.


    I spend 75% of my time looking at bi-sex porn and masturbate to such porn almost every day. My fantasies go way beyond just having oral with another male, but fantasy and reality are two very different things and being able to have a regular JO/Blow buddy would be great.


    Society has definitely become more accepting of bi-sex, but for many of us in our 40's or older, who are discovering our desire for bi-sex, we still have to overcome the values that were instilled in us in our youth. I may or may never experience touching and performing oral on another male, but my fantasies and desires will always be there and I will continue to enjoy these fantasies without any guilty feelings.

  19. #289

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    thanks for being the generation that rebelled i can only imagine where this world would be if we still just accepted what the authority said without questioning.
    Quote Originally Posted by thatcher29 View Post
    Like most generalizations, there is a bit of truth in the statement that women lose interest in sex as they get older. However, as they say, Your Mileage My Vary. I can say this with some confidence because I've been dating for the last 7 years since my divorce and with the exception of one who was more inclined to be a lesbian, all of the women I've been involved with have been very eager to have sex. My current 67 yo girlfriend, whom I'm in the process of buying a house with, is an absolute tiger in bed. I certainly don't doubt mike_smallwood's comments about his situation. I've run into a lot of men who say the same thing. But believe me, there's a lot of older women out there who not only are willing to provide sex, but are really looking forward to it.

    As for the changes in men's attitudes toward bi sex, I believe that society's attitudes toward bisexuals has not changed very much. Most people would probably still consider two married men having sex together as "cheating".The reason that there's more bisexual older men is because we are the rebellious generation, fighting authority since we were kids with long hair. Now that we're in our golden years, we could care even less what people think about us.

  20. #290

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    I don't think is is because they can't find women. I believe men by age 50, are just tired of women's constant nagging. I've had my dick sucked a few times through the years, but have never had the desire to suck a dick. Hell, I get choked on my toothbrush. But I have always wondered how it would feel to have a hard dick sliding in and out of my back door, and the throbbing and pulsing of it cumming in there. I have eat my own cum and I could eat another man's cum, I just cant suck it. Or, maybe the right one hasn't cum along yet.

  21. #291

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    I think since women want less sex at our advancing age, and we men are such dogs anyway, still craving the intimacy. the joining that tells us our woman loves us. But doesn't want us anymore, making us think they don't love us anymore, we look for this elsewhere. Besides, we men know what we want and how we want it. Pull my pants and shorts down, and off, then take my growing dick in your mouth and show me how much you want it. I'll happily give what I get, so don't be shy about giving it.
    Never met a dick I didn't like! Got dick? No? Come get some!...

  22. #292

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    In my life, I always have been BI. Now being more accepting of this is a different story. As a young man it was something I hide, (my work is the reason). My current wife found a gay porn video and confronted me, I came out and said yes I am BI, thankfully she was OK with it. Since that incident I have been more open. We even play with toys and she enjoys seeing me happy (toy in my ass). To this day she is the only straight person who knows I am BI. Two months ago I hired a lesbian, she told me she was gay after a week of work and I told her I was BI. Since that day I have been very open about my sex life, seems we enjoy talking about being how we are. I have this urge to tell people about being BI, but have yet to act on it. With age comes an acceptance of who you are, and sometimes a wish you were more open earlier in life.

  23. #293

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    Yeah, I wish I and the guys, usually close friends, would've been more understanding of my/their Bi tendencies. Share equally, don't just get me to suck your dick, lick your balls and maybe fuck a little. If you like the thought of having hot sex with me, then take what I give you and I'll enjoy what you give me more.
    Never met a dick I didn't like! Got dick? No? Come get some!...

  24. #294

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    Yes, I am 62 and long term married hetro and have never had an attraction or sexual interest in me. However over the last couple years have this strong desire to suck a cock and lick balls. I have been masterbating to bi porn. Wife knows and says go for it. I can't wait to try.

  25. #295

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    Sounds good. You just need to find someone in proper condition and willing to guide you and share...
    Never met a dick I didn't like! Got dick? No? Come get some!...

  26. #296

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    I would be very curious to know how many man honestly are bi. I've known a lot of men personally that I didn't know for years, in some cases, that they were bi. The biggest thing I see is men on these sites who put "straight" on their profile, yet they make comments on my pictures or messages saying how much they'd like to suck my dick. That doesn't sound very "straight" to me. I understand how a lot of guys don't want people to find out. I don't tell everyone, but if they were to ask me, I don't think I'd lie. I'd love to find a credible survey to answer that question. Not just on these sites, half the people on these things aren't honest anyway. An anonymous, real, believable survey out in the world.

  27. #297

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    I've seen a lot of blame placed on women for this reason and that. I think some of it may be true, but I think the real reason is that men have always had these feelings, but have been taught that it's wrong, so they try to suppress them. I'm Bisexual, and I think I have been since my early teens, and I thought it was wrong. I acted on it for real in my late 20's. I'm 67 now and as I get older I'm a lot more open about it. I don't broadcast, but when asked I reply honestly. My wife doesn't like sex sex anymore, and we go months and months at a time before I get what I call "pity sex", but that's not what drives my sexuality. I just feel I'm running out of time to experience things, and want to get as much in as I can, before I can't. Blaming your wife is just a lame excuse for what you've felt from early on.

  28. #298

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    I think urge for some older guys has always been there and once their wife shuts down sexually they either revert back to some things they did in their youth or they decide to give into their long-standing curiosity. I think the latter would tend to want to place blame on their wife due to the shame they feel once they have a man to man experience, even if they end up liking it and continue.
    Im not sure which is easier once you are shut out with the wife, I tend to think same sex is safer as in keeping it secret. I would rather have a girlfriend or two but women seem to be very unpredictable once you have a sexual relationship with them.
    I remember when I was young working with a lot of 50 something guys and the common thread with them was they would tell you how their wives had just quit having sex. A lot of them ended up getting divorced since it’s difficult to keep a girlfriend secret.

  29. #299

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    I am not saying that older women are not sexual, only that many tend to lose interest in sex in my experience and I agree your mileage may vary as you pointed that your experience has been different. I should have qualified my statement with "in my experience" in the original post and it was not meant as a generalization. Thank you for pointing that out.

    You may, however, be confusing the acceptance of bisexuality and the acceptance of cheating in your statements above. Regardless of gender, a person has sex with another person outside of a relationship is considered cheating and was never well accepted nor is it accepted today to any great extent. Bisexuality is related to two people of the same gender who have sex together, and this is a lot more accepted in today's society. Case in point, we have prime time television programs depicting same gender people kissing and in bed together. The series "How to get away with Murder" which aired on NBC is a perfect example of how societies acceptance of gay or bisexuality has changed. This would never have happened 20 or 30 years ago.

    A perfect example of societies attitude towards homosexuality since 1952 can be seen by reading the story of Alan Turing, the person who cracked the enigma code the Germans used during WWII. There is a good write up on Wikipedia about his life and how he was treated being a homosexual, after his incredible contributions during WWII. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing

  30. #300

    Re: Do older men turn bi???

    I think most older men always had those tendacies but ignored them. As you get older you want to expierence things. Also todays society is more open and there is the internet

 

 

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