Shemales

[Robinium]

No one is stopping you from using the term, although you should be aware that if it is persistant you will be treated as being uncouth, and generally insenstive. It's not political correctness, it's called manners.

Right. Most Male-to-Female transsexuals will be offended by the expression, so using "she-male" won't help you getting a date. No matter how cool you are about it.

And well, most people don't transition just to become your favorite fetish. There's a lot of gender stuff behind it. So learn about it if you are into them. Even if you don't care and are only into one-night-stands with them.

[AsianDream]

My "Two-Cents" here is that as a nation of "Home of the Free, Land of the Brave" the current Political Correctness aura in the USA has removed most peoples spines.

Geez, it's just a term, phrase or word folks. Get over it!!

No one is stopping you from using the term, although you should be aware that if it is persistant you will be treated as being uncouth, and generally insenstive. It's not political correctness, it's called manners.

MarieDelta - I'd have to agree that good manners are important

Id also have to say that the "Home of the Free, Land of the Brave" is a somewhat idealised view of North American history.

This is without getting into a debate about whether stealing other people's country and mostly exterminating them is a nice thing to do or not.

[transcendMental]

MarieDelta - I'd have to agree that good manners are important

Id also have to say that the "Home of the Free, Land of the Brave" is a somewhat idealised view of North American history.

This is without getting into a debate about whether stealing other people's country and mostly exterminating them is a nice thing to do or not.

I'm glad you don't want to get into that debate, seeing as you're from Asia where such behavior was once commonplace.

[chook]

Cat used the term "Mono Orchid Balls".......I know the feeling darl.....had them a few times meself after a few dates that went wrong


Cheers Chook

[NjbiGuy01]

I always had erotic dreams about passable TS's or CD's "surprising me" on a date, or finding the elusive hermaphrodite with both a pussy and a cock. Frankly, it's hot as heck, but I think it's nearly impossible to make happen in the real world though. There are some attractive TS or CD massage therapists on the web. Usually the pics are cleverly well taken or airbrushed like crazy, and if you talk with them on the phone...the voice turns me off (as does the 200 plus per hour rates !!! )

[tenni]

I was just reading on another site specifically for bisexual men on this topic. There is no denying that some bisexual men do have a sexual fantasy to be with a "she-male" with a functioning erect penis.

All the complaining and concern by transexuals about it being offensive to transexuals,etc. does not diminish that some bisexual men do have a sexual fantasy for this option.

Both are realities. One is not better than the other. One seems to be more "polite" on this site. Whether a "she male" may get an erection is no more a thought that will diminish the frequency of this desire in some bisexual men.

They see it as an ideal for their attraction to both male and female. It seems that on a bisexual site that this should be acknowledged and accepted as a reality or a desire. However, it is also interesting that this may just be a "fantasy" and reality makes it unlikely. Since some biguys admitted to the attraction of a "she-male" as opposed to a transexual, it is interesting that none have posted their experience with a "she-male" who had an erect penis? Now, I have heard of men claim that they have been with a "she-male" with an erection. Either these guys were lying or there is some reason why no man has reported on this site being with a "she-male" with an erection? Curious.

[MarieDelta]

I was just reading on another site specifically for bisexual men on this topic. There is no denying that some bisexual men do have a sexual fantasy to be with a "she-male".

All the complaining and concern by transexuals about it being offensive to transexuals,etc. does not diminish that some bisexual men do have a sexual fantasy for this option.

Both are realities. One is not better than the other. One seems to be more "polite" on this site. Whether a "she male" may get an erection is no more a thought that will diminish the frequency of this desire in some bisexual men.

They see it as an ideal for their attraction to both male and female. It seems that on a bisexual site that this should be acknowledged and accepted as a reality.

As I have been trying to state, and maybe this has not pennetrated to where you live. The TERM "she male" is considered offensive. I'm not sure why you are not getting this? If a transwoman is non-op, they are still transwomen, the fact that they will not go through with vaginoplasty doesnt make them any less woman.

She-male is a construction of the pornography industry. It is not a term we, for the most, part identify with. Even my friend who identified as gay male, agreed that it was offensive. (The one who transformed herself into a damn sexy woman, that one.)

I dont have a problem with any of that. However, just like any other person I wish to be treated as a person.

I'm not a blow up doll. I'm not disposable. I'm not some idealized version of a person.

What you see in porn is fantasy. There isnt anything wrong with that, but we live in reality. That fact should be acknowledged, as well.

Its not offensive to be desired, but to be fetishized is kind of creepy in my experience.

I do not have problem with people who are attracted to transexuals wanting to date me. However first and foremost treat me as you would treat any other woman.

The terms "shemale", "he-she" &"tranny" should be stricken from your playbook as well. Use of those terms more than once, will get you eliminated from my dating pool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0XAI-PFQcA

[TaylorMade]

It's like the slang word "uppity". It has a nasty awful history (especially in relationship to black people in America) and most people don't even use the word because of it's implications. . .If Marie, Duckies Darling, or someone I'm friendly with calls me uppity in a humorous or ironic way, then . . . no harm, no foul.

But if a total stranger uses it? We will have problems.

IOW, don't use it unless you're in a certain context. She-male can refer to a type of porn. Never to a person.

*Taylor*

[transcendMental]

I was just reading on another site specifically for bisexual men on this topic. There is no denying that some bisexual men do have a sexual fantasy to be with a "she-male" with a functioning erect penis.

All the complaining and concern by transexuals about it being offensive to transexuals,etc. does not diminish that some bisexual men do have a sexual fantasy for this option.

Both are realities. One is not better than the other. One seems to be more "polite" on this site. Whether a "she male" may get an erection is no more a thought that will diminish the frequency of this desire in some bisexual men.

They see it as an ideal for their attraction to both male and female. It seems that on a bisexual site that this should be acknowledged and accepted as a reality or a desire. However, it is also interesting that this may just be a "fantasy" and reality makes it unlikely. Since some biguys admitted to the attraction of a "she-male" as opposed to a transexual, it is interesting that none have posted their experience with a "she-male" who had an erect penis? Now, I have heard of men claim that they have been with a "she-male" with an erection. Either these guys were lying or there is some reason why no man has reported on this site being with a "she-male" with an erection? Curious.

Yes, there is no question that some men have this fantasy. I am not offended by anyone's fantasy. Dream about it all you want. Crave it desperately, if that's your thing. But do NOT think that dating a transsexual will get you any closer to fulfilling that fantasy.

Our only claim about erections is that estrogen decreases and eventually kills your performance, and that most MtF transsexuals don't want people engaged with any erection they might have. My experience is that after a while, although you can still get an erection, it's painful and not as large or full as you might be used to.

A male-bodied person who does not want to change their brain chemistry with estrogen could get breast implants and facial feminization, and appear as a woman, while still having a fully functional penis. It is unlikely, though, that a transsexual would do such a thing.

So it's not the fantasies we mind. As Marie says, what transsexuals complain about is having the word "she-male" applied to transsexuals.

So don't make it out like we're the Thought Police who want to control people's fantasies or what they talk about. Just get your facts straight and don't apply names to us that make us sound like something we're not, ok?

tm

[Robinium]

@tenni
I don't have any problem with bi guys having the fantasy of a female with a functioning dick or a dick + vagina. It's just that some don't get that it rarely works that way, plus if they check out TS women, they make the classic mistakes which will ruin any chance of them ever achieving their goal. I made the mistake to assign as trans on a gay dating site which also accepted trans people, and I was asked silly and very extreme questions all the time. No problems with explicit questions, buuutttt.... most guys thought I was the other way round (though I wrote it in my profile) and so I had the opportunity to see the same silly "ruin-your-chance-for-a-date-in-a-minute" mistakes happen over and over again. It was hilarious. We female-to-male transsexuals sometimes even post copies of the funniest of these chats in our forums for a good laugh.

So here's my constructive advice - you needn't be a rocket scientist to keep these few simple rules in mind, and you can even stick them to your screen:

1. Read the profile before asking personal or sexual questions. Instead of chatting with a "chick with a dick", you might be chatting with a transguy whose body is the exact opposite of what you're looking for. And he might be annoyed or eat up your time by answering your questions with a big grin on his face ("What are you wearing right now?" "A black T-shirt, blue jeans and sports shoes." "But what underwear are you wearing now?" "Wife-beaters and my favourite Homer Simpson boxer shorts." "WTF???"). Or the girl might not want to be asked questions she might find offensive. Plus it might help you find out if you're actually chatting with a TV or a TS, and answer some of your questions anyway so you save time.

2. Never use the terms she-male or "chick with a dick" or anything like that. Never. Ever. Use transsexual or TS instead. Otherwise, you might ruin all your chances in your first sentence ("Hello, are you a she-male?" --> Epic fail). You probably don't want to be asked if you're a "fag" or "fencesitter" either.

3. If it's a male-to-female TS: use female pronouns or your chat will be an epic fail.

4. Take at least a few questions' time before asking if there's something dangling there or "she already had the OP". It might be a bit weird for your chat partner to get this question asked first.

5. Male-to-female transsexuals tend to indeed think more like women than like men. So even for a sex contact chat, a lot of fuss might be necessary in advance, instead of just asking the person for their e. g. glove size in your first sentence as you can do with gay and bi guys.

6. If you really spend much time looking for TS women anyway, do your homework and check out general information about this topic on the internet. This will help you avoid some of the other errors you might make. This little list here is not exhaustive.

[Jexplore]

call them what you will............that would be the perfect partner for me......
the best of both worlds in my opinion.......

[tenni]

Sorry for having used the word but it is a porn word and a fantasy word from porn. It is almost as if the two should be separated as fantasy and reality are often separate. It is however a reality that some bimen are attracted to a fantasy of transwomen in transition as you prefer to call them. Many men use and hold porn for what it is intended: fantasy to masturbate. I am suspecting that these bimen who are attracted do not even want to know the reality of really being with a transwoman? In fact, I don't think that they care that the person believes themself to be a woman and not a man. They simply want both body parts. The person doesn't matter any more than another guy as a one night stand. It is objectify more than not.

I've also known a guy who wanted breasts but he wanted to keep his penis and have it active. I don't think that he had thought it through too well though. I couldn't understand him when he made this point after years of knowing him. I was surprised when he told me this. In some respects, he said that he saw himself as a woman but you would never think from his outward behaviour that he thought that way. I don't think that he did anything about it from the last contact I had with him.

I personally have no attraction to transwomen in transition and so such a fantasy is not my fantasy. I may be attracted to a transwoman who has transitioned though. I don't know and I do not seek it out.

[69luvr]

As a bisexual male, I always fantasize about sex with a male and a female.

Last week i saw a movie with a shemale in it, who was so hot, i almost lost it.
she had beautiful breasts, firm ass, and a thick sexy cock.

Now, as a bi male, how many would think that it would be hot to be able to have sex with someone that you can do anal sex too, but who can turn you over and do anal sex to you, and has firm breasts and a great ass!

Someone you can kiss, with beautiful lips and sexy stomach, and a hot cock between the legs, can it be any better?

No it simply can not be any better then that! You did forget to mention a hot cum kiss when you are through!

[ashleycd]

I'm new here and though I have "gender issues" I'm not transitioning anytime soon or ever. That said, this thread has some incredible responses. I am honored to be around people like those who treated this issue with respect and dignity, as well as brutal honesty.

On another note, with respect to porn, whether it's "shemale" porn or otherwise, porn has one inherent problem -- capitalizing on the fantasy in many cases requires the perversion of reality, which on a case-by-case basis may not be that harmful to an individual person, but on the whole creates a distorted image of those stuck in that reality in the minds of the collective watcher. So, "shemale" porn is rather harmful in my opinion to the struggle most transwomen face. The fact that some didn't realize the implications of transition on libido and ability to "perform" is additional proof of that perversion of reality.

Not being a prude, and not anti-porn at all, just saying like with all aspects of life, there's the good AND the bad associated with it. Personally though, I like reality, it's much messier and much more enjoyable to really know a person through and through. It's the gift we can give to our lovers that allows them to live and die with dignity and in communion with loved ones.

peace
-ash

[darkeyes]

I know men who enjoy getting their ass or mouth fucked by a hard shemale cock so yeah a shemale getting hard and cumming does happen. Shemales are HOT and have the best of both worlds!

I read a post on this site where a man wrote an erotic story about thinking he was going to have sex with a woman and he wound up having hot sex with a tranny shemale!

I am sure there are more shemales who post on this site than the few that do that are vocal, but they are just afraid of the ultra PC trollings and bashings of being out as a shemale.

sluts with sausage / dolls with balls / babes with boners / women with wangs / chicks with dicks / moms with meat / playmates with prostates / debbies with dongs / heroines with hard-ons / ladies with lances / lolitas with lovesticks / dykes with dinks / bitches with beef / wives with weiners / whores with more / widows with woodies / tricks with tripods / nieces with nuts / females with foreskin / bimbos with bones / princesses with penises / brides with bananas / hookers with horsecocks / nuns with knobs / skanks with scrotums / gals with gadgets / skirts with schlongs / sisters with snakes / broads with rods / tramps with testes / cunts with cocks / wenches with wee-wees / girls with gonads / nymphs with niggerdicks / mamas with manhood / nannies with nightsticks / pinays with pipes / shrews with salami / chicas with chubbies / harpies with helmets / dominatrixes with dipsticks / succubuses with sacks / maidens with members / bachlorettes with bishops / goddesses with goliaths / hoochies with hoses / vixens with vipers / foxes with fucksticks / actresses with anacondas / dames with ding-dongs / mistresses with manginas / tarts with tools / hotties with hammers / femmes with footlongs / prostitutes with pogosticks / Trannies!

Whatever ya wanna call em SHEMALES are HOT!

Thank you for making Marie's case for her.. what a slimeball...

[bigolv]

Year's ago I had sex with a woman, a very beautiful woman. This woman had a very nice penis! it was hot. I'd seriously like to meet another woman w/ a penis and have sex with her again. A beautiful woman with a hard cock doesn't get any better for a bisexual male like myself to have sex with. At this point in my life I'd like to have a relationship with a woman like this, I seriously enjoy oral sex, giving & receiving also top and bottem, I recently kissed a man for the first time, it was also hot and turned me on. I'm not gay I'm bisexual, But! A woman with a cock is the best of both worlds in one. Any woman out there that fit the bill please get intouch with me, for me your all woman! the cock is just a big plus, What can I say " I like dick" V

[romer]

for sake of clarity, and not to be offensive, what is the 'proper' non offensive name for one having a set of breast and a manly tool to boot ???
Don't want to offend anyone.............

[ubersmack]

for sake of clarity, and not to be offensive, what is the 'proper' non offensive name for one having a set of breast and a manly tool to boot ???
Don't want to offend anyone.............

Transsexual or TS..... or a Woman and score some points for yourself.

Treat her like a woman, take her out as a woman, love her like a woman, after all she is a woman in the making.

[cornholejoe]

whatever want to call them dont matter i have done it with 2 or three and it was great makes for a fun threesome

[MarieDelta]

for sake of clarity, and not to be offensive, what is the 'proper' non offensive name for one having a set of breast and a manly tool to boot ???
Don't want to offend anyone.............

A transsexual woman is a trans woman (or just a woman)(Desinated male at birth transitioning to female)

A transsexual man is a trans man (or just man)(Designated female at birth transitioning to male)

[Falke]

A transsexual woman is a trans woman (or just a woman)(Desinated male at birth transitioning to female)

A transsexual man is a trans man (or just man)(Designated female at birth transitioning to male)

What Marie has said. I would strongly recommend using her advice along with the advice of life-rule number 2: "Don't be a douche." Not implying anything, but it is a commonly overlooked/inadvertently broken rule.

[hotkevin11]

It depends on the person. Just call them by their name. Some are OK with the terms tranny and shemale and freely use them, while some are not.

every-one is a person.. treat every-one with respect please!!

[hotkevin11]

every-one is a person.. treat every-one with respect please!!

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[uncut7thick2]

what can i say except that i love to play with shemale and have done so many times best of both worlds especially the versatile ones cock size doesn't really matter to me ,, but i do likem thick (_O_) C====8 i used to dress at one time too many years ago now

[*Lou*]

I've been reading this thread since it began. One thing I find interesting is the fact that no matter what term one uses to describe a trans individual, said term MAY upset or offend a particular person or group of people. Simply stated I don't believe in labels, we are all human beings, yes, I understand the whole gender ID thing, but can't we just agree to disagree, treat others with respect and common decency, and move on with our lives?

[man65here]

I've been reading this thread since it began. One thing I find interesting is the fact that no matter what term one uses to describe a trans individual, said term MAY upset or offend a particular person or group of people. Simply stated I don't believe in labels, we are all human beings, yes, I understand the whole gender ID thing, but can't we just agree to disagree, treat others with respect and common decency, and move on with our lives?

Another case of not accepting a compliment, because it wasn't worded correctly. Shemale is not my favorite term, but in my small circle of friends it is used to describe a trans woman with a working penis. No insult intended, because I myself would like to meet that person. Any other transgendered person is simply referred to as He or She.

I can't believe how thin the skin is in this community, call me anything you like, but call me... lol

[centillini]

to be quite honest, I find a sexy lady with something extra the hottest thing, soft, and sweet with beauitiful ass, and nice tits with a hard cock,mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. ONly thing better would be a couple.

[_Joe_]

I do so miss someone that doesn't come around here no more.

She was such a nice one to talk to, and I said something to pretty much nailed it for her and she appreciated. It's understandable for a person to have a quirk/fetish to someone is transgendered. Just like it's a fetish for a redhead, someone short, someone with huge boobs, someone wearing leather, etc etc etc. However you don't really score points with them if all you focus on is those traits and ignore the person. Treat someone as a person first, and the traits you lust after second - you'll make them feel better immensely.

I know I'm probably just pissing in the wind but hey it was a great understanding we had back then and I miss chatting with her, but remember her also bitching how a simple little rule like that is why others never got a "hi" back from her.

Then again, I told her it was an easy way to filter out the freaking idiots, and that was the flipside that she never realized.

[mel_bigboy]

Well, now I've learned something new! I too have spent my life extremely attracted too, and calling those ladies "shemales." I appreciate this thread and feel a little more educated.
Now, transexual ladies turn me on soooooo much!

[PrettyFlowingGown]

I prefer a penis over a vagina, so ofcourse I love she-males. I had one in hollywood in 2004 and she was gorgous. We both sucked each other off and it was one of the best sessions i've ever had.