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    Re: how do women see bisexual men?

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    all good points. so in ur experiance the women's orientation doesn't really have anything to do with how she will view the idea of 2 guys togather. i would think a bisexual women would have an appreciation for bisexuality no matter the gender. but i wouldn't necesarily be offended if i had a women & she didn't wanna let me watch her with another women. the way i see it, it might be something she wants to do on her own. besides i think my being there, having a guy there would spoil the beauty of 2 women togather, which i think is the best sex that could ever be. of course i'm not saying i would turn down the offer to watch & eventually join in but at the same time i would wanna know i would have the right to go off with a guy alone for the nite. but my original question wasn't so much do women get off on watching 2 guys do it, more like what do women think of men who are open enough sexually, there willing to have gay sex? do they appreciate that openess, do they see a different approach of these guys towards sexuality?
    I would have thought so as well, Sysper. Unfortunately, there are almost always exceptions to every "rule". Some bisexual folk can appreciate such in other forms, just like heterosexuals or homosexuals, but others...not so much...even if they are such themselves. You are correct, some folk only feel comfortable expressing (parts of or all of) their sexuality alone. But to answer your original question...from my experience and what I have read...I fear that many, if not most women do not appreciate the openness of a bisexual man who is open (at least with her) with his being bi and I am not sure that said women would see this as a "different approach" toward sexuality, either. This is especially true. I believe, when it involves persons of color. In 2017, except for the most bigoted (and/or religious, depending on your view on such), most folk can deal with lesbians, or (to a lesser extent homosexual men) and (truly) bisexual women is almost as "mainstream" as being heterosexual. But (truly) bisexual men? Not so much, for all of the above reasons and likely more. Such is unfortunate...but more folk are cool with such than 20-30 years ago, when I was a teenager and had not learned about homosexuality, much less bisexuality yet. That is progress. I guess. If such is less of a big deal in 25 years, when I will be at retirement age (I hope), then that will be even better. I just watched the most recent episode of "Madam Secretary" and one of the male team members just told his boss and the main character, the Secretary of State (Tea Leoni), that he was bisexual. Her response? She just hugged him and said in effect "See you tomorrow." And she went home. Meaning: total acceptance. In 2017, we have openly lesbian, gay and bisexual characters (and real-life actors as well) on all the major TV networks and in movies...and not just on small cable networks late at night. And no one is going crazy over it anymore. If that is not progress, then I don't know what is.

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    Re: how do women see bisexual men?

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    I would have thought so as well, Sysper. Unfortunately, there are almost always exceptions to every "rule". Some bisexual folk can appreciate such in other forms, just like heterosexuals or homosexuals, but others...not so much...even if they are such themselves. You are correct, some folk only feel comfortable expressing (parts of or all of) their sexuality alone. But to answer your original question...from my experience and what I have read...I fear that many, if not most women do not appreciate the openness of a bisexual man who is open (at least with her) with his being bi and I am not sure that said women would see this as a "different approach" toward sexuality, either. This is especially true. I believe, when it involves persons of color. In 2017, except for the most bigoted (and/or religious, depending on your view on such), most folk can deal with lesbians, or (to a lesser extent homosexual men) and (truly) bisexual women is almost as "mainstream" as being heterosexual. But (truly) bisexual men? Not so much, for all of the above reasons and likely more. Such is unfortunate...but more folk are cool with such than 20-30 years ago, when I was a teenager and had not learned about homosexuality, much less bisexuality yet. That is progress. I guess. If such is less of a big deal in 25 years, when I will be at retirement age (I hope), then that will be even better. I just watched the most recent episode of "Madam Secretary" and one of the male team members just told his boss and the main character, the Secretary of State (Tea Leoni), that he was bisexual. Her response? She just hugged him and said in effect "See you tomorrow." And she went home. Meaning: total acceptance. In 2017, we have openly lesbian, gay and bisexual characters (and real-life actors as well) on all the major TV networks and in movies...and not just on small cable networks late at night. And no one is going crazy over it anymore. If that is not progress, then I don't know what is.
    hmmmmm male bisexuality seems to be the least understood, tolerated etc. it's a shame. i agree with u we have come a longway we got gay/les/bi tv characters not that big of a deal. but we still got alot to go. as long as there are politicians who wanna vote against same sex marriage, adoption & etc. but going back to the original point it's also a shame women don't appreciate bisexual men more than they do. is it all societal or is there just something about bi guys? then again i wonder if guys really appreciate bi women? gets most of them hard lol but is there anything beyond that some guys appreciate?

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    Re: how do women see bisexual men?

    Quote Originally Posted by darkeyes
    In end tho.. wot does it matter wot folk callya? We all know who and wot we fancy and are prepared to have naughties wiv.. it is wot we think, want and do that counts!
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    Bingo! The sooner we all can get on board with this approach, the happier everyone will be.
    Attitudes like these are what impedes progress and continues the stigmatization of bisexuality, biphobia, and bisexual erasure. By not admitting and staying closeted to a broad swath of inclusive love, a human reality, many bisexual people who would otherwise benefit from seeing other people being out or open as bisexual will not come out or will stay closeted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pole_smoker View Post
    Attitudes like these are what impedes progress and continues the stigmatization of bisexuality, biphobia, and bisexual erasure. By not admitting and staying closeted to a broad swath of inclusive love, a human reality, many bisexual people who would otherwise benefit from seeing other people being out or open as bisexual will not come out or will stay closeted.
    My thought was more along the lines that we place waaaayyy too much emphasis on categorizing sexual attraction. In my view, that urge to "over-categorize" (perhaps to establish in our minds who else is "in" or "out" of our own closely guarded group) contributes to the very problems you're pointing out. I do get the point, though, about issues like the relationship between stigma and bisexual erasure.

    Maybe the root of all of this conflict is the impulse to stigmatize anyone who is not like "us". We see it every day with race, religious heritage, cultural background, economic status and so on. It seems to me that bigotry and the impulse to exclude others stems from an irrational fear of anything unknown or anything that might challenge us in ways that trigger our own insecurities.

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    Re: how do women see bisexual men?

    Certainly can't speak for all women but most I've been around including my wife aren't comfortable with it. I had a opportunity years ago to test this with my wife and I chickened out during the MFM. I was going to casually touch him but really wanted to go down on her while he was in her. When I kissed her after she had been sucking him she reacted surprised but didn't say anything. Then after she had had his cum in her mouth she kissed me and gave me the oddest look after I didn't resist. She has no idea I have been with two guys and one them was they guy from our 3way.

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    Re: how do women see bisexual men?

    Why don't you be honest about your feelings for men to your wife...Maybe that would be the key that could unlock a very interesting door . . You will never know until you take the risk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joboo View Post
    Certainly can't speak for all women but most I've been around including my wife aren't comfortable with it. I had a opportunity years ago to test this with my wife and I chickened out during the MFM. I was going to casually touch him but really wanted to go down on her while he was in her. When I kissed her after she had been sucking him she reacted surprised but didn't say anything. Then after she had had his cum in her mouth she kissed me and gave me the oddest look after I didn't resist. She has no idea I have been with two guys and one them was they guy from our 3way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csreef View Post
    Why don't you be honest about your feelings for men to your wife...Maybe that would be the key that could unlock a very interesting door . . You will never know until you take the risk.
    @Joboo -I'm picking up a similar vibe. You might find that your wife could be more accepting of your interests than you have been. She sounds like a keeper!

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    Re: how do women see bisexual men?

    Joboo...your wife may turn out to be totally comfortable with you being bisexual..but she might not. Folk sometimes do some stuff "in the heat of the moment" during sex (regardless of the type or how many folk are involved and/or watching...etc...lol), especially if one is intoxicated that he or she might not do if they had the time to consider a choice. Remember, a lot of (supposedly) straight men might not kiss his lady immediately after she completed oral sex on him...even if she swallows. Never mind if the cum is still in her mouth. We are not going to start about the men who won't go down on their lady (much less to her completion!).
    Your wife probably was surprised that you kissed her after she had just caught the cum of a another man (and such was still in her mouth!) and under the circumstances, she is not saying anything! Not everyone likes to give oral, period. A few prefer such to actual sex...usually ladies. I would have no problem with it, especially since I am big on giving oral...and to completion and beyond. Plus, I have had past lovers who were bona fide squirters...(really!)...so if you can handle THAT blasting in your mouth...and all over you...your own cum (or someone else's, male or female) should be easy, by comparison (unless it is really foul tasting, which is a separate discussion!).
    Yes, I would talk to her about that night and her feeling on bisexuality (for you AND her), but do it carefully. Even if she might be okay with you being bi, she may not be happy that you previously slept with two men on your own (especially since one was the guy in your three-way), especially if such involved bareback (I don't know if you had mentioned details on that or not...not that it matters.). She may also not be bi herself, which might make it harder. Be prepared for the worst after that conversation and hope for the best. But talk to her before you go sleep with another man, so you (and she) know what is up...just in case.

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    Re: how do women see bisexual men?

    I think it is fairly unusual that women are into that. The only gf I had that was into that was my last one, and she was seriously turned on by it.

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    Re: how do women see bisexual men?

    i just wish much more women at least respected a man's decision if he decided to consider both ways, just like i respect a women's decision to do the same. and a guy for that matter. maybe there are more than we know but they aren't really encouraged to say so or even deny it to themselves because male bisexuality unfortunately, is more looked down upon than female bisexuality. should be about equal, & accepted. maybe even celebrated lol.

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    Re: how do women see bisexual men?

    Unfortunately there is a double standard for everything in life especially Sexuality.

    Quote Originally Posted by sysper View Post
    i just wish much more women at least respected a man's decision if he decided to consider both ways, just like i respect a women's decision to do the same. and a guy for that matter. maybe there are more than we know but they aren't really encouraged to say so or even deny it to themselves because male bisexuality unfortunately, is more looked down upon than female bisexuality. should be about equal, & accepted. maybe even celebrated lol.

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    Re: how do women see bisexual men?

    it seems women only see it 2 ways, they either love it & get turned on by it, or they are repulsed & loose interest/respect in such a guy. i never seem to hear a women who doesn't care to know the details but, still respects it when a guy goes beyond what is expected or accepted & appreciates the perspective from enjoying both sexes & having a deeper insite into sexuality.

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    Re: how do women see bisexual men?

    Quote Originally Posted by darkeyes View Post
    In end tho.. wot does it matter wot folk callya? We all know who and wot we fancy and are prepared to have naughties wiv.. it is wot we think, want and do that counts!
    If only the rest of the World could be as open minded . . .

 

 

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