Why? ... My Question is Why?

[The Chunkly]

Part One

Over the years. 15years or so.
I have met up with many people from all walks of life.

A few see two girls together and some say.. NO! no way.
Some say Really? ... that's so cool.

When this is for two Men, Most, ie people to whom I have been in contact with.
They Say Yuk Puke Vomit .. No Flipping Way that's just wrong.

A few "not many" say well each to their own.

So I ask Why?

Why is it ok, and why cool for two Girls to Kiss, and have sex, but not Two Men?





Part Two
Over the years I have talked to 5 different women about Girl on Girl what do they think and fun with a threesome
The Results Where Two flat out said No.

The other two said ok maybe but as long as I was there but no contact to the other Girl.

But,the last one wanted me to have sex with the Girl first! while she watched.
Then watch the two of them together and for them to swap from each other to me and back to the other.



Sadly this never got to happen.
For other reasons I can't say.

I'm still on speaking terms with one but do not see her much now a day.
Looks like I missed that boat.



Anyone else had chances that they just messed up?

[BeachHound]

I have noticed something in the past several years. The stigma that comes with seeing two men together seems to be changing. The younger generation seems more accepting of this than many of the older folks. There just seems to be more acceptance now than there used to be. That doesn't mean that it isn't still there, because it is; just doesn't seem to be as much.

As far as missing chances, I missed a bunch!!! There was once a black girl that wanted to get with me so bad.... I wish I did because I really think that she could have taught me a lot. I think about that a lot with much regret. Also had a chance for a 3some with a couple that invited me in but I was too scared to try. Always thought about 'what if?' I will never know....

[zbi73]

I think there are double standards at play when it comes to sexuality, men don't have the same "freedoms" as woman do. I used the word freedoms in the sense that whilst men can still partake, it's simply not perceived in the same manner if the participants were woman.

It's dumbfounding, perhaps it's something to do with the penetration differences between the two acts (although that's a huge assumption on their part that all bisexual/gay men participate in anal sex) or woman maybe seen as more sexually expressive/open (perhaps history has played a part here), who knows, either way it leads to many men having to lead separate or secretive lives rather than risk being found out. This also seems to be reflected in the process of accepting/acknowledging your sexuality as a man with denial and guilt playing major factors in the time it may take some men to come to terms with it. It should be a non-event, no one should care, but that's not the world we live in.... yet.

Throughout history there have been periods where same-sex attraction and interaction wasn't an issue. Not being a historian, I'm going to throw something out there with no factual basis whatsoever, but I would guess that those periods outnumber in years the periods where it did matter. It's a pity that we've lost our way and I feel religion has to shoulder a lot of the blame here. This is all rather subjective and it's simply my take on things. Flame away!

[Long Duck Dong]

I agree with zbi73... many people are not into anal sex and thats what they see as the main form of male on male sex.... there is also the aspect of a anus has a main purpose and thats expelling faecal matter, not something that people getting have a interest in dealing with when having sexual interactions..... where as females tend to be more about oral sex and strap ons...

a lot of people are sexually motivated so yeah, watching something that appeals to them is going to interest them more than something that does not....and while we can argue that its wrong and discriminating for people to not like male on male kissing and enjoy female on female kissing, but the reality is that you are not going to hear how many people do not want to see female on female kissing or male on male kissing or even male on female kissing... but there is a large number of people that have zero interest in public displays of affection.... they get slammed as prudes and told to get over it....

in the 90s there was the teen emo phase and they put emphasis on being able to kiss whom you wanted, it was not seen as female on female or male on male kissing but a sharing of intimacy... that died out after a few years because it was seen as the teen angst / feel sorry for me phase.... so the idea that teens are more accepting in the last decade is not actually correct, they have been more expecting for longer, its social media that has given rise to opinions about what is more acceptable but there is also the fact that daring to disagree with same gender public displays of affection is going to result in people being called homophobic....

so the question really is how much of an issue do we have with the idea that other people do not like what we like and how they should change.....

yeah there has also been situations I have messed up but not in the way you have, I have declined a lot of sexual opportunities because I do not see people as pieces of meat and I would rather be invited to a sexual encounter than want other people to get into bed to cross things off my bucket list.... its worked out in my favour in the end, I am in a closed group with a male and two females where sex is enjoyed but not expected or demanded and there is not the expectation that sex must involve penetration....

[KDaddy23]

I remember being out at a favorite watering hole with my wife and our girlfriend, drinking, dancing, just having fun. A slow song came on, couples hit the floor and among them, two very pretty ladies. Good song and as the song played, the two women kissed and I mean like "get a room!" kiss. None of the women around the dance floor seemed to react badly to it; my wife and our girlfriend thought it was sweet and so did I. However, there were a few guys who had some shit to say - and shit that got them escorted out.

One guy's parting words were, "If that was two dudes, everybody would be throwing up all over the place! That shit is whack!"

He had a point, of course. We've always known what two men can do to, for, and with each other even though we maintain that men shouldn't do that for any reason. Women, being the "weaker sex" and all that bullshit, get a pass with displays of affection for each other, even between good friends and I've thought that the mindset is that women need more "emotional support" than men do - which is a lie, of course, but I didn't come up with this crap.

We later learned that they weren't friends or lovers; they had just met that night, got to talking, got up to dance and the kiss just happened (according to the girls, who we invited to our table). Both said they weren't into girls but the song moved both of them. I thought it was quite touching and was about to say so when the ladies told me to get lost for a few for some girl talk not meant for male ears.

Well! I never!

This stupid double standard has existed for a damned long time and it has always amazed me that it's still hanging around even though we know what the real deal is about these things. End of my take on Part One. Now, Part Two.

I've talked to both men and women about threesomes and while a lot of women would admit curiosity about it, nah, ain't going there. Some men made it clear that if their lady even said the word, there would be... trouble. Makes sense since, by and large, a lot of people ain't about sharing like that. Some women I talked to were all for a threesome or, as one said, "The more the merrier - you doing anything tonight?" and some didn't care whether it was MFM, MMF, or MFF as long as it was gonna be fun. A lot of guys say that they'd give their left nut to be in a threesome but not many that I personally know actually got involved in one and a few that did, well, they found out that it's not as easy as it might seem; those who said they were down for it said they didn't mind another guy being in the mix... as long as he kept his hands to himself.

You hear more about guys who just want to sit and watch their wife getting laid by someone... but you don't hear of too many gals who want to sit back and watch their man do his thing with someone - but some women "get off" watching two guys going at it. I've personally been in so many threesomes and moresomes than I can easily remember and, testing my memory, I don't think I ever turned down a chance to jump in when it was offered, whether it was two (or more) women or it was just guys. Then again, I have no shame in my game - I love sex and I love doing it with a lot of people but I'm smart enough to question those who say, "Hey... let's have a threesome!" I will ask them, "Are you sure you really want to do this?" and more so if they say that they've never had one before and I'll really question them if they've been drinking a lot; I've seen them be very damned good... and go horribly bad.

Still, the no-sharing thing is often cited and some women get weirded out just to think about two horny guys getting at them, triggering rape-like fears. A lot of guys think this is a great idea... until they see their lady getting pleasured by someone else... and she's really enjoying herself; they find that it sounds good on paper, they think they can handle it, then find out that seeing it is a whole different thing and, nope, they can't handle it.

@ZBI73: Once upon a time, in the very "dark" ages and before the widespread growth of religion, same sex stuff didn't matter one bit and a lot of the older cultures - Japan and, more famously, the Greeks and Romans - reveled in it. In some cultures, an adult male was expected and required to take a young boy under his wing and teach him what he needed to know to become a man in that culture; but there were rules and, I think, like all rules, some of them got disregarded. History talks about the Temple of Sappho, women-only conclaves that were supposedly handmaidens to the prevailing gods... but, um, yeah - I think that wasn't what was going on in those temples and temples where no men were ever allowed.

It wasn't until religion really took hold that it went from no big deal to you're gonna die and burn in hell for doing that shit. Didn't really stop anyone from engaging in same-sex things even though if you got busted - or even accused of it - the penalty was death and in some really gruesome way. So, if anything, when it comes to this, you can say that we're trying to get back to the way things used to be before religion and its accompanying morality came along because, for the most part, that's how people behaved way before the fact.

It shouldn't make a bit of difference... yet it does. Having said that, a lot of people today are NIMBY about it - Not In My Back Yard - or, they don't give a fuck what other people are doing... as long as they're not involved in it, well, them and those they care about. Then you have the religious and morally righteous faction that continues to believe what religion has to say about this and, again, even when the evidence says that religion is wrong. The sad part is that as long as there's one person who continues to believe religious dogma, there's always going to be some riffing about same-sex stuff... and people are gonna do it anyway so all this riffing is really kinda pointless, ain't it?

[NakedInSeattle]

@Kdaddy23 ...Yep, it was the church that fucked it all up. For no other purpose than CONTROL, they deemed it necessary to tell us what, where, how, when, and with whom we can garner sexual pleasure. I've stated here and other places that if I were to tell my neighbors I was gay, they would say, "Fine just keep it in your house." But if I were to tell them I was bi, I'd probably have a cross burning on my lawn.

[KDaddy23]

@Naked - ya might get two crosses for good measure with some garlic - works on vampires, might work on bisexuals, too. Now, what we know, thanks to the many church scandals, that they weren't practicing what they were preaching and yet people still believe what religion teaches about this - go figure.

[zbi73]

@Naked - ya might get two crosses for good measure with some garlic - works on vampires, might work on bisexuals, too. Now, what we know, thanks to the many church scandals, that they weren't practicing what they were preaching and yet people still believe what religion teaches about this - go figure.

Nope, I like Garlic. Burning a cross is allowable but only if they bring marshmallows.