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I've been looking at a lot of online porn (heheh) and I find a lot of it depressing. Even if it doesn't involve anything outright violent or disgusting, often it involves humiliation of people. The whole cuckold thing gets me down, because it seems like it's the only thing out there for bi men.
are there any porn sites that don't make you feel guilty or filthy in a bad way?
I wished I could offer some suggestions-but i was turned off ages ago by the stuff put out by the porn industry--as a rule--it is all so formulaic, relies on "lowest common denominator" values and stereotypical views about sex--in all its forms.
The thing with those who create most porn-it is all about the bottom line with them and they do quite well, thank you very much, selling the trash they create.
If I ever make enough money in other areas-I swear that I would like to learn how to produce videos and create my own VIDEO EROTICA--I would not call what I do to be PORN.
I would have some sort of realistic and believable stories and scenarios regarding the sexual scenes my videos would have---real life for most people--you just don't go around always dropping your clothes and having sex----sex does fall into a context of real lives.
Good luck, Don Quiote, in your quest to find non-exploitive sex videos--I am sure there are some out there--but they do seem to be a rather rare creation.
Porn isn't meant to be "nice" or "politically correct" what do you expect? Actual romance in porn? Or actual sex the way it really is?
see if you can find a gay video called black and white,... it features two body builders in one of the most intimate scenes I have ever seen,.... they were into each other and making love, slowly tenderly and the after play was excellent...
it may not be bi porn, but it still remains one of the few porn videos that stick in my mind after many years, simply cos it was love making, not acting for the camera
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Originally Posted by drugstore cowboy
There's a difference between "Sex the way it really is" and what I've been finding on most sites. Men and women being humiliated. violent and/or disgusting imagery. I just don't want that. I want to see hot men and women actually enjoying sex, not people being punished for being "sissy" or otherwise unconventional in their desires.
Mile bi club, bi-cycling and Read bi all are three titles that you may like... All are just people enjoying bisexual sex
Mile bi club has made me cum so many times it's not even funny. Who is in Bi-Cycling?
That's exactly what I love... they seem like they are actually having fun, even if it is a pro movie. Nobody is being forced into doing anything they don't want to do. (Too many sites have "forced bi" or cuckoldry)
Some of the most interesting things I've seen were done by amateurs.
I agree that humiliation, rape, self-centered, scat, pain, etc., etc., scenes turn me off, too. It's been some time since I've seen a video, or movie that had a decent plot and a sensuous message, that I could enjoy.
One of the best videos I ever saw was an early tape about women in love, made by women. Can't remember the name of it, or the players, but it was very well done. I'd like to see one along those lines with gay, or bisexual actors.
What makes you think that the people in porn don't like what they're doing? Or that these people don't fantasize, love, and crave the type of sex you're seeing that involves humiliation or the other things you're seeing.Quote:
Originally Posted by w00ki33
If they didn't like it and didn't want to do it, and were not into those types of sex they would NOT be doing porn or having sex involving role play with humiliation or the other things you're seeing in porn.
I agree! (and I can't count the number of time I came to Mile Bi either lol)Quote:
Originally Posted by w00ki33
http://www.iafd.com/title.rme/title=...bi-cycling.htm
for details... It was an early Joey Silvera film Tianna and Meghan Leigh are there along with Lee Jennings and T.J. Scott, a very yummy cast for sure!
bi barracks is another great one, it is 8 guys and 1 girl, but it is HOT and all fun.
Goosed for 3 is good, with the ever lovely Nina Hartley.. Lust Ohne Limit (also called Lust without Limit and Every Switch Way) a German production in English is another great one.
I need to go through my list, I do have some more 'happy' ones...
Another source for some limited videos is www.youporn.com go to catagories and you will find some bisexual videos. Not a lot but some are very good. Unfortunately quite a few are latin american so I can't understand what they are saying
Best ever I saw was "The Dinner Party." It was all heterosexual, but a real plot, beautiful bodies, big cocks, juicy pussies and great photography.
There is some beautiful amateur stuff, as long as you have no hangups about "average" looking bodies. I saw a clip that's been going around of a bunch of older men with a woman that was very sexy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Realist
I don't mind other people doing these things, but it seems as if in general porn is getting more and more violent and abusive.Quote:
Originally Posted by drugstore cowboy
please do! I have also seen Lust Ohne Limit and really like that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizard-lix
I'm not a huge porn fan at all, but occasionally I find something that does turn me on or my partner sends me clips and links that he thought had some energy in them. But I do completely understand what you mean regarding porn seeming to be more violent now. Not that it's BDSM but just rougher. Guy walks up on couple and immediately jumps in demanding they do things vs guy walking up and watching and stroking his cock, getting noticed and invited to join in the fun. To me porn has to have a story to keep me intrigued, one of the best I ever saw was a strapon vid with a husband and a wife, it wasn't sex, it wasn't deviant behaviour, it wasn't one dominating the other, it was making love and it really showed in the vid.
I'm quoting myself because people seem to be forgetting these simple facts about porn.Quote:
Originally Posted by drugstore cowboy
Porn is fantasy, while there's sex on screen the sex or the plot if there's one in the porn do not have to be "nice" or politically correct at all which is a very good thing BTW.
Whatever happened to enjoying hot porn just for the sake of it?
If you don't like kink or BDSM then don't watch it. Nobody is forcing you to watch it.
I don't like lesbian porn at all not because I'm offended by it; but because it does nothing to turn me on at all, and to me it's more of a comedy than something sexy and erotic.
I've seen movies where there are "lesbian" sex scenes and I wind up laughing because it's so fake and boring to me just like lesbian porn that I've seen is.
Watching rough sex in porn can be hot and it's not "violent" since the people who are doing the porn are completely consenting to it and are actually into that type of sex that they're being paid to do on film.
If they didn't like it they wouldn't be there and you have to sign multiple forms and give multiple forms of actual ID before you do porn.
I prefer amateur porn since that's more real but even that isn't the same.
It's not about BDSM.Quote:
Originally Posted by drugstore cowboy
It's about how you have to sift through stuff in which bi men are degraded as "sissies" and women as "bitches" and "whores' just to get a few ones in which people actually appear to be having fun.
I'm not judging anyone's taste. If someone likes BDSM, fine. But there's a lot of unpleasant stuff even in mainsteam porn, and it makes me sad.
Why would that stuff in porn make you sad?Quote:
Originally Posted by w00ki33
You do realize that the people in porn who are doing it, are into that type of sex and want to do it and have it filmed right?
I know submissive gay men and men who are consensual slaves that happen to be gay who get majorly turned on when they're degraded both physically, spit on, lightly choked and face slapped, whipped or paddled until they're black and blue or even bleeding, put into a cage and pissed on, and called a cocksucking faggot or a shit faced queer by a dominant and aggressive man/men, during sex that involves consensual S&M or power exchange.
There's nothing wrong with this. It's two or more adults having consensual sex the way they want to regardless if society or prudish people who don't want to know or accept that people do such sex and do it on a regular basis.
I told you why... because when I'm searching for bi stuff this is what I find. I have to get through 99 cuckold or "sissy" vids to get to one that genuinely turns me on.Quote:
Originally Posted by drugstore cowboy
I' not asking to ban anything. I'm just asking for an alternative.
Face it, we have different tastes, let's leave it at that.
For the best and nicest porn sites, I suggest http://www.best-pornsites.com/top-10/4k/