Am I the only woman, but I do find Teaching a man how to suck cock so exciting and even more so showing him!!!
Anyone else ??
Comments???
Brenda
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Am I the only woman, but I do find Teaching a man how to suck cock so exciting and even more so showing him!!!
Anyone else ??
Comments???
Brenda
i love that idea and would love to sign up for lessons.
Well, I do not mean to brag, but I have been told I have an amazing way with cocks...and I will be giving lessons to shameless (if he wants)..hehehe..as if that wonderful mouth needs any lessons...
It is exciting to show someone how I do it, but I do not divulge all my secrets, for if I did, then what I do wouldn't be special anymore would it??
Would love to tag team with him on another bi male...that would be the ultimate...besides watching him with the male that is...
AngelRose
Sorry I don't find this hot at all.
Men don't need any help learning how to suck cock, because it's just something that we know how to do very well, and even the worst fellatio from a man is better than excellent fellatio from a woman.
Yeah I know it's not PC to say that but it's true. It's just like how only a woman really knows how to give excellent oral sex to another woman better than a man does.
Oh HELL Yes! Showing one how to suck a sweet, succulent (no pun intended) hard, quivering, cock is One of the hottest things in the world!!!!! Especially if its his first time, or if he's done it before but its been a while. I Adore having a male lover hold a "Demonstrators" hard cock gently at the base, then have Both of them watch me doing what Minx's(my Lifestyle handle) love doing best..lol This way they can watch me work my mouth magic and it can arouse both of them at the same time, and perhaps encourage the watcher to want a taste too..lol:three:
Is it gettin warm in here??????
Silly Cat
Well, I must take exception to your above comment. Perhaps this has been your experiance, but if you are lucky someday a woman will come into your life and give you a most enjoyable surprise.
Many women, and Yes I do include myself in this catagory, are better than some men who love to give each other head. Some of us take great pride in the touch that we posess and love to see the expression on our mans face, hear the sounds of pleasure and feel the quivering of the rest of their bodies. The proof is in the enjoyment of the man I am with.
As the old addage states....those who can do...
Belle
I find this interesting and would love to sign up for lessons from a woman.
I'm finding myself rather aroused by the concept...heh...
Um what?
I'm not attracted to older/geriatric women at all, certainly not women who don't have any teeth, and I don't have incest fantasies about my grandparents at all nor do I desire sex with any relatives and my grandparents don't wear dentures.
What I wrote is the truth even if yourself and others don't want to believe it.
Women just don't know how to please a man as well as other men do when it comes to masturbatory sex, oral sex, and probably even anal sex as well since toys don't compare to a real penis, a woman doesn't have a penis, and a woman doesn't have a prostate or know what a prostate orgasm is like.
Only a man understands what it's like to have a penis or use it, and it's like how a man doesn't understand what it's like to have a clitoris, what a clitoral orgasm is like vs. a g-spot orgasm, as well as another woman does.
Her vagina itself can never thoroughly pleasure your penis like a man's hands & mouth, if he's good & knows from experience. This is just reality.
Annika L has written about how only other women really know how to give excellent oral sex to women and I agree with this and nobody flipped out at her posts about this or when Darkeyes has written this.
Only a man really understand a penis. Plus probably only another woman really gets a clit. I honor that some hetero relationships are genuinely intense & profound, only most often those too are distorted by the social, cultural substrate.
I would love to sign up for lessons to have a woman "teach" me. Angel where do I sign up?
Oh, christ, here we go again!
The "common wisdom" that oral is best when given by a person of the same gender is TOTAL BULLSHIT!
The only thing a person needs to be good at oral is to pay attention to what the recipient's body is doing and the DESIRE to do it well. End of story. You don't need a penis to be good at sucking cock and you don't need a pussy to be good at eating one.
It's quite obvious where these misconceptions come from. Very few people ever give head to a MOSS unless they WANT to. But many, many perform oral on MOOS that don't really want to because it's expected in a str8 relationship.
ON THE AVERAGE, yes, I've gotten better head from men, but the BEST I ever got was from a woman. End of story.
i'd be cool with having a woman show me how she sucks cock. i'm sure it would some fun conversation lol while teaching it.
You probably haven't been with the right guy yet or you haven't had oral sex with that many men at all. Otherwise you wouldn't be saying that, and no it's not bullshit that men give other men better oral sex than a woman ever can.
I've done things to men/had things done to me during oral sex with men that women don't want to do at all, or that women simply can't do, and there are fetishes and other things that only other men understand/can fulfill, and women either can't do/fulfill, and even if they could women wouldn't want to do.
Also who is to say that oral sex is expected in a "str8" relationship? I know many heterosexuals who either don't like to give or receieve oral sex and just prefer anal/vaginal sex. Anyway that's not what I meant when I wrote about hetero relationships.
You've even admitted to yourself that:
It's not your fault that you can't fall in love with men and that you're not as sexually attracted to them as you are with women; but I gaurentee you that if you could fall in love with men and were more sexually attracted to men than you are, you'd understand how even the worst oral sex between men is far better, it can be spiritual in ways that a woman giving fellatio to a man never will be, and it's far superior to that of a woman giving a man (in her mind) "excellent" fellatio. End of story!
Anyway I have no need for such instruction from a woman or anyone at all; but I'm naturally gifted at this art, as many can attest. I'm also good at being a feeder to a cocksucker if we're into those roles. ;) My ex would probably be into teaching women how to suck cock as long as they are submissive and into bondage/SM/kink and if they were his type.
oral from a male or a female or to a female or male.....I will honestly say that its not the gender that makes oral special.....but the way it is done
oral sex is oral sex, you are either doing it exceptionally or not...the gender is not important......
I have always been of the mind that you are not sucking a cock, you are making love with your mouth to a sensitive penis and making it sing.....and thats something that is not gender specific but part of the person themselves
Sounds like fun, maybe this could be a match-making service? Match teachers, students and "test subjects"... sign me up for any of the above...
On the who's better argument, based on my limited experience, women have a slight edge. I agree that having a set of the equipment does not necessarily translate into being able to use it...
Of course I was a natural, hit a home run my first try...
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Ah, yes, you can claim it isn't bullshit but that doesn't make it true. Nor does your claim that you've had more men go down on you. I could just as easily claim that you don't know shit about it either since you've probably never had a woman go down on you.
Other than facial hair, there isn't anything a man can bring to the event that a woman can't. Furthermore, claiming that all women won't do something that you want them to or can't "understand" only shows a blatant sexist attitude, and a total lack of communication skills on your part.Quote:
I've done things to men/had things done to me during oral sex with men that women don't want to do at all, or that women simply can't do, and there are fetishes and other things that only other men understand/can fulfill, and women either can't do/fulfill, and even if they could women wouldn't want to do.
Yes, not all heteros do oral. That's beside the point. Reading comprehension obviously isn't your strong point. I'm not going to repeat it because you still wouldn't get it, and the vast majority reading this thread did get it the first time.Quote:
Also who is to say that oral sex is expected in a "str8" relationship? I know many heterosexuals who either don't like to give or receieve oral sex and just prefer anal/vaginal sex. Anyway that's not what I meant when I wrote about hetero relationships.
Ah yes, attack something else about me that has nothing to do with the subject. I'm not a REAL bisexual in your mind so I don't have any basis for judgment? Get a grip.Quote:
It's not your fault that you can't fall in love with men and that you're not as sexually attracted to them as you are with women; but I gaurentee you that if you could fall in love with men and were more sexually attracted to men than you are, you'd understand how even the worst oral sex between men is far better, it can be spiritual in ways that a woman giving fellatio to a man never will be, and it's far superior to that of a woman giving a man (in her mind) "excellent" fellatio. End of story!
It's been quite obvious from your other posts here through time that you are a misogynist. You prefer relationships with men because you want your relationships to be with equals, something you could never accept a woman to be.
If YOU were capable of having a healthy relationship with a woman, one with mutual respect and love, maybe you'd find she'd do some of those things you say women won't do.
Thanks Allbi..I could not agree with you more. Technique is divine and yes there is much to be said for it....variety and speciality. But what I hear most often from lovers is that I have such a sense of DESIRE for the man I am with and the intensity and passion that I have to please them and then in turn to please me have made the time that we have shared so intense.
As far as eating pussy is concerned...I have only done it once and had it done once and I do not feel that it is sufficient to compare. But I have never met a man whom I did not enjoy or who did not desire and want plain ole me.
Belle
Gee DiamondDog...I never tire of hearing this lame argument from you but you forgot the part about how you would rather a man scrape his teeth across your cock than receive oral from a woman! It's quite obvious from your posts that you prefer sex with men and only enjoy women when you are dominating them in an S/M scenario, so it's no wonder why you have never experienced the mouth of a loving and giving woman on your cock!!! Just as you eschew labels, I for one am tired of how you continually label women as incompetent when it comes to pleasing a man sexually.
This is YOUR reality and while you have every right to believe such a thing, you can in no way state that it's that way across the board for everyone!
You challenge allbi to fall in love with a man and discover the true pleasures of fellatio, well I could suggest the same to you in regards to falling in love with a woman. The love between a man and a woman can result in some fabulous sex and yes, even fellatio can be just as "spiritual" as you claim it is with men. And I don't need my mind to tell me that it's excellent...I know it is when I see the look on my husband's face each and every time!
If you have no need for instruction, then good for you...but someone who toots his own horn as you are doing is very often is the only one giving such praises. You certainly have every right to your opinion, but don't force your opinions when it comes to something that you obviously have very little personal knowledge or understanding of....a mutually satisfying and loving experience between a man and a woman!
I read all your post on this and shame on you...you try and make yourself sound like you are gods gift to mens cock...well honey my man was good when he start and I showed him some tricks since I have suck a few more then him..now our playmates get 2 mouths that know how to give a real great head...dont even get me into S&M Dom scene, because we are into high protocol lifestyle and have a few toys (M&F) that we have had to train...You need to understand that sex is fun, so smile and stop knocking others fun...:soapbox:
At my ripe old age I have learned that you can always learn more than you now know. Even from someone you consider lower on the totem pole than you. A master can still learn from a student. Open your mind and you will be surprised what might cum in.
LOl :bowdown: To Kate and Eddy10.
Its not the gender of the person giving the oral, its the Person Themselves that makes it the most wondrous and exciting. And, the BDSM lifestyle has nothing to Do with it., That may be a person's thing, and thats great combined with the oral pleasuring, but everyone's technique is diverse and varied.
Some of us girl can suck the chrome off a bumper, and its rumored that your cat can Quote "Suck the seeds out of a pickle and never break the skin" lol
Just because you feel that a woman isnt talented enough for you, it just means you havent had the Right woman. lol'
Cat
Who cares?
I thnk anytime anyone of either gender who is entranced enough with you to put their mouth around/into your genitals should be thanked and certainly not rated.
Oral sex is such a wonderful human activity, just lie back and enjoy it!! :tong:
Received plenty from both guys and gals. Never had a bad BJ. Some were better than others but never had a bad one.
Sorry DiamondDog, the best ones came from my wife. :)
Agree wiv the last bit Innaminka.. but not rate em?? God... wer wud me journals b if me had neva dun that??? Afta yas laid bak an enjoyed.. then ya rate.. memba... go 'ome..an rite it all down for posterity.. tee hee:tong: .. an it don haff bring bak memries a few years down the line.. as well as giveya a few giggles..if not belly laffs.. o yea.. an sumtimes a lil embarrassment ...
A lil jog a the memry always handy jus in case ya bout 2 make big mistake...:bigrin:
Being shown how to suck a cock with a beloved woman is my hottest fantasy.:love1:
And if and when my virgin ass is violated,:yikes2: when the cock goes in for the first time I need a loving womans face right there in my face to tell me to not tighten up and enjoy......
At a glory hole with a woman is the only way to suck cock....well not the only way, but certainly one of the most enjoyable. When she says, "come on honey take it like this, now you do it". Love a woman who sucks a strange cock with her hubby or boyfriend....:love1:
Well I'm not going to debate who sucks better, a woman or a man, experienced or not. All I have to say is that the worst blowjob I have had was still darn good and I'm so grateful.
Lessons or not sharing cock with a good gal is GREAT!!!
Lessons or not sharing cock with a good gal is GREAT!!
Nope LMAO men and women have a lot more differences when it comes to giving fellatio than just facial hair.
LMAO men just give better head and love to do it unlike women who don't know what they're doing when it comes to giving fellatio, and what I said is the truth about how the worst head from a guy would be better than excellent fellatio from a woman.
Let's not forget how men and women smell/taste different either. Men's bodies, armpits, tongues, anuses, taste/smell different than a woman's and even the flesh of their genitals tastes different in your mouth.
When I'm with a man/men I don't want someone that's all smooth and smells like a candy dish! :D Also, men have knowledge of what it's like to have a penis so even if they're into giving oral sex they know how to do it better than a woman can and they know all the right areas that women don't know about! ;)
Stop throwing non-sequiturs into your replies. Many people here including yourself aren't good at reading comprehension either. ;)
I could always throw one in and assume that when you wrote: That you're saying that women (het women especially) don't like to give men oral sex and only do so because they think that they're expected to.
When I originally wrote this: I honor that some hetero relationships are genuinely intense & profound, only most often those too are distorted by the social, cultural substrate.
I meant that heteronormativity is ubiquitous and how many heterosexuals get married/reproduce/add to the already way too high world population not because they want to but because they think that they have to.
Vitt wrote an excellent post about the differences between men and women and normally I don't go for the whole "men are from mars, women are from venus" stuff, or stereotypical ideas about gender/gender roles but she did bring up some interesting points in her post about how women percieve sex/attraction/etc.
Also I didn't mean in my post at all that you're not "bisexual enough" in my mind. Are your own insecurities showing through or something? ;)
LOL Why should I even personally want, or be expected to want/strive for, or one day have your typical monogamous/heterosexual seeming relationship with a woman?
Thankfully I'm not forced into such constraints of heteronormativity when it comes to relationships, and I'm rather agnostic when it comes to such things, and I’m not heterophobic either.
I'd just wind up going crazy if I were forced into, or if I was in a closed relationship with a woman and it wouldn't be fair to try to pretend that I could try to be monogamous with a woman since I'm not sexually attracted to them all the time.
LMAO what's with you playing the the "you're a misogynist" card? :rolleyes:
I certainly don't hate women, think of women as being subhuman or less than men, and I do think of women as being my equals even if I'm not always sexually attracted to them and just because I don't worship their gender or the ground they walk upon (this itself is a form of gender inequality) like many desperate men here seem to do it doesn't make me a misogynist. I have been told this by a hetero male friend who doesn't understand queer men and thinks that because I'm more into men when it comes to attraction/romance that it's because I "hate women", yet he constantly talks about how women are bitches and hoes and how much he'd love to have in his words "a bitch as a fuckbuddy who would constantly let me dump my loads in her!". I could repeat other things I've heard from true misogynists but I'm not going to do that here.
What I meant about what mostly all women not wanting to do when they have sex with men has to do with what's called man-scent and licking clean armpits, and while not even all men are into this, I have queer male friends who share this fetish with me and we all agree that almost all women would not want to do this and how most women wouldn't be into it or the natural clean smell of a man's ripe pits, or 1-2 day old clean musk which are staples in gay sex/and the homoerotic, and are big fetishes for lots of men.
There are other fetishes too but they’ve got nothing to do with scat or anything like that and believe me when I say that most women don’t have them and if they were in a relationship with a bi man who had these fetishes they wouldn’t want to act on them.
There are other fetishes that deal with men's bodies that only another man can fulfill. Foreskin anyone? Even if I were to meet a bio woman who could sometimes be a drag king as a passable man and had taken some T to deepen her voice and who tried to fulfill male oriented fetishes it wouldn't be the same as being with an actual biological man. I'd be fine with being with a Transguy and there have been some transwomen who have turned my head too.
At this point in my adult life I have relationships and sex with men because while in the past I have had healthy mutually exclusive respectful relationships with women I'm not as sexually or romantically attracted to women as I once was.
I don't see the point in entering into a relationship with a woman now and trying to be in a monogamous relationship or even an open one when I'm a lot more sexually and romantically attracted to men and while I am attracted to some women it's not fair to her to try to be monogamous since we both know it's not going to happen, and I'll just pine for men and romance for men and probably wind up in a nasty break up/divorce.
If you need an example of this how you'd personally relate to it would be like for you to try to have a boyfriend/husband. Before you think or assume that I'm attacking you personally let's face it, I'm a lot more into men when it comes to sexual attraction/romance than you are.
Again you're speaking out of ignorance, like you usually do on the subjects of bondage/SM, erotic power exchange, and other things I’ve written about.
What's wrong with eschewing sexual labels? I don't really fit into one of them, many others don't either, and they're going by the wayside as it is and less people are using them, if you've been paying attention! ;)
You don't know a lot about bondage/SM or the roles that are done in such relationships, or why such roles are done.
I suggest that you educate yourself before you write even more ignorant and foolish statements about a subject you know nothing about and haven’t practiced that much of.
Yes BDSM is sex, just as much as a penis penetrating a vagina is, and even one's fetishes and acting on them can be sex.
Your ignorance doesn't even warrant a reply like this. I will say this though; you don't seem to judge other men or other people here who prefer doing bondage/SM with only men or with both genders, so please don't do the same with me.
Yes I do tend to naturally fall into the roles of Dominant and Master. I also tend to attract submissive/service oriented/kink curious men/women/trans people, and what's so wrong about giving people what they want when it's all safe/sane/consensual and safe words are established? Just because you have no desire for sex that isn't vanilla don't judge others who do happen to enjoy it. :)
Secondly who are you to judge consenting adults of any gender who happen to do BDSM/erotic power exchange, or happen to enjoy or even highly prefer it instead of vanilla sex?
Also what's so wrong about letting women be submissive to a dominant partner in consenting erotic power exchange? Haven't you ever heard of personal choice? You realize that when people are submissive during BDSM it's because it's their choice and they want to be. You are a feminist like I am, right?
There's a reason why I don't write about my own personal life on here at all or my personal relationships with other people. It has nothing to do with being closeted, secretive, or discrete and it has everything to do with wrong assumptions by total ignorant strangers on the internet.
I never said I was God's gift to giving men fellatio. :rolleyes: Even other men who have posted here in this thread agree that if you're a bi/gay man you don't need instruction on how to suck cock since it all comes naturally.
Heterosex (sex between one man and one woman) may be spiritual but it's not as powerful or as spiritual as bisex (like a MMF 3 way) or homosexual sex that's with two or more men in an all male situation/environment where the sexual energy and camaraderie between men multiplies!
Then there are the meditative states and states that mimic psychedelics and spirituality that myself and other men have gotten into while giving/getting/69'ing with men that I've never got from doing any of that with a woman at all.
it seems totally natural how a man's mouth & a penis fit together & connect as if--dare I say it?--the are made for each other!
In fact, my feeling is that humans’ sexuality has not been primarily about reproduction for a long time. Particularly now, when the planet is so overpopulated with humans & in rather dire straits, I feel men must be encouraged to share erotic pleasure for its own sake with fellow men. Men really want a lot more touch, more intense physical, erotic ecstasy than they are getting in most cases.
Men will never get this raw physical, erotic pleasure they hunger for, that need not be bound to emotional commitment with women. Though the male/female thing is a different dance that I also honor . . . until men become better balanced & less fearful of fellow men, that will always be most problematical.
Actually yes I do have experience in and knowledge about a mutually satisfying romantic relationship between a myself and a woman. No I'm not the only one who says I'm very good at giving oral sex. Do you want all the men/women I've dated/had relationships with to somehow vouch for me? What would the point of that be?
Don't be stupid. We are talking about a specific physical, sexual act.
No, it is not the truth, it is your OPINION.Quote:
LMAO men just give better head and love to do it unlike women who don't know what they're doing when it comes to giving fellatio, and what I said is the truth about how the worst head from a guy would be better than excellent fellatio from a woman.
[quote[Let's not forget how men and women smell/taste different either. Men's bodies, armpits, tongues, anuses, taste/smell different than a woman's and even the flesh of their genitals tastes different in your mouth. [/quote]Which has nothing to do with ability to suck cock. Everything you've just listed only relates to a gender preference. You as a gay man prefer the scent, taste, etc. of a man. Nothing wrong with that. However, it has no bearing on the ability to perform fellatio.
Again, this only relates to a preference in a sexual partner. It has nothing to do with ability.Quote:
When I'm with a man/men I don't want someone that's all smooth and smells like a candy dish! :D
Please! EVERYONE is different in how they want to be pleased orally. No two men are the same, no two women are the same. One man may think you are great at it, another may think you are horrible if you use the same technique with him. The way to be great with everyone (besides the desire to please) is to gauge and respond to the recipients responses to what you are doing. ANYONE can do that regardless of whether or not they have the same equipment.Quote:
Also, men have knowledge of what it's like to have a penis so even if they're into giving oral sex they know how to do it better than a woman can and they know all the right areas that women don't know about! ;)
What non-sequitur? Do you even know what that means?Quote:
Stop throwing non-sequiturs into your replies. Many people here including yourself aren't good at reading comprehension either. ;)
Never said that. Obviously I didn't or more whole argument would be moot. Maybe it isn't your reading comprehension that's at fault, maybe you just lack the ability to think logically.Quote:
I could always throw one in and assume that when you wrote:
That you're saying that women (het women especially) don't like to give men oral sex and only do so because they think that they're expected to.
[quote]When I originally wrote this: I honor that some hetero relationships are genuinely intense & profound, only most often those too are distorted by the social, cultural substrate.
I meant that heteronormativity is ubiquitous and how many heterosexuals get married/reproduce/add to the already way too high world population not because they want to but because they think that they have to.
Vitt wrote an excellent post about the differences between men and women and normally I don't go for the whole "men are from mars, women are from venus" stuff, or stereotypical ideas about gender/gender roles but she did bring up some interesting points in her post about how women percieve sex/attraction/etc.[quote]All of which has nothing to do with the topic of discussion. Men and women are different. Some women (even str8 women) don't like sucking cock. HOWEVER, that is SOME WOMEN, not all.
Not at all. I'm quite comfortable with who I am and with my sexuality. You are the misogynistic gay man that seems to have insecurities with his sexuality.Quote:
Also I didn't mean in my post at all that you're not "bisexual enough" in my mind. Are your own insecurities showing through or something? ;)
Never claimed you did. Again your (il)logic fails you. The point was you are incapable of having that type of relationship with a woman, so have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE about what a woman is capable of providing sexually.Quote:
LOL Why should I even personally want, or be expected to want/strive for, or one day have your typical monogamous/heterosexual seeming relationship with a woman?
Good for you. You are misogynistic and gynophobic, tho. No one says you HAVE to be in any particular type of relationship. Again, the point is you are incapable of having that type of relationship with a woman, so have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE about what a woman is capable of providing sexually. (Maybe repetition will aid your slow mental processes)Quote:
Thankfully I'm not forced into such constraints of heteronormativity when it comes to relationships, and I'm rather agnostic when it comes to such things, and I’m not heterophobic either.
More evidence to my point.Quote:
I'd just wind up going crazy if I were forced into, or if I was in a closed relationship with a woman and it wouldn't be fair to try to pretend that I could try to be monogamous with a woman since I'm not sexually attracted to them all the time.
If it acts like a duck and quacks like a duck...Quote:
LMAO what's with you playing the the "you're a misogynist" card? :rolleyes:
So your friend is a misogynist, too. I don't label you that because of who you are, I label you that because of what YOU have SAID in posts on this forum.Quote:
I certainly don't hate women, think of women as being subhuman or less than men, and I do think of women as being my equals even if I'm not always sexually attracted to them and just because I don't worship their gender or the ground they walk upon (this itself is a form of gender inequality) like many desperate men here seem to do it doesn't make me a misogynist. I have been told this by a hetero male friend who doesn't understand queer men and thinks that because I'm more into men when it comes to attraction/romance that it's because I "hate women", yet he constantly talks about how women are bitches and hoes and how much he'd love to have in his words "a bitch as a fuckbuddy who would constantly let me dump my loads in her!". I could repeat other things I've heard from true misogynists but I'm not going to do that here.
Which has fuck all to do with blow jobs. And how many women have you actually had sex with to know "what mostly all women not wanting to do?"Quote:
What I meant about what mostly all women not wanting to do when they have sex with men has to do with what's called man-scent and licking clean armpits, and while not even all men are into this, I have queer male friends who share this fetish with me and we all agree that almost all women would not want to do this and how most women wouldn't be into it or the natural clean smell of a man's ripe pits, or 1-2 day old clean musk which are staples in gay sex/and the homoerotic, and are big fetishes for lots of men.
Again, this is a preference for an act that has nothing to do with oral sex.Quote:
There are other fetishes too but they’ve got nothing to do with scat or anything like that and believe me when I say that most women don’t have them and if they were in a relationship with a bi man who had these fetishes they wouldn’t want to act on them.
These past few paragraphs you have descended into a lecture on why you prefer to be intimate with men. Again, this has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH A PERSON'S ABILITY TO GIVE GOOD HEAD!Quote:
There are other fetishes that deal with men's bodies that only another man can fulfill. Foreskin anyone? Even if I were to meet a bio woman who could sometimes be a drag king as a passable man and had taken some T to deepen her voice and who tried to fulfill male oriented fetishes it wouldn't be the same as being with an actual biological man. I'd be fine with being with a Transguy and there have been some transwomen who have turned my head too.
Sheesh, you just don't get it do you? No one here gives a fuck about why you prefer men. The issue is that your opinion that ANY man can suck a cock better than ANY woman is complete BS and is confounded by your total lack of ability to be in a mutually respecting relationship with a woman.Quote:
At this point in my adult life I have relationships and sex with men because while in the past I have had healthy mutually exclusive respectful relationships with women I'm not as sexually or romantically attracted to women as I once was.
Which has fuck all to do with the topic at hand.Quote:
I don't see the point in entering into a relationship with a woman now and trying to be in a monogamous relationship or even an open one when I'm a lot more sexually and romantically attracted to men and while I am attracted to some women it's not fair to her to try to be monogamous since we both know it's not going to happen, and I'll just pine for men and romance for men and probably wind up in a nasty break up/divorce.
If you need an example of this how you'd personally relate to it would be like for you to try to have a boyfriend/husband. Before you think or assume that I'm attacking you personally let's face it, I'm a lot more into men when it comes to sexual attraction/romance than you are.
DiamondDog,
It's not so much whether or not you are truly a misogynist that bothers most of us, it is the way that you state your opinions without regard to the beliefs or experiences of others. You continue to debate issues using situations that affect YOU and YOUR sexuality choices and while that is your right to do, you need not do so in such a manner where you demean or put down women. You say you give excellent head and your partners love it! That is wonderful and I am happy for you. But that does not entitle you to put down women or criticize our abilities. There is no way you can ever say that your expertise excels over mine when your lifestyle and partner choices are so different from mine. So what if I prefer not to lick my husband's armpits...that's not something that he necessarily wants me to do. But I can promise you that if it were something that he did desire, I would most certainly give it a shot and the mere fact that it might give him pleasure would heighten my pleasure as well. As a loving and giving couple, we do things that are mutually satisfying and we grow together through our desire to give and receive pleasure.
And since this thread is about giving blow jobs, YES..maybe I wasn't so hot at it when I first started so many years ago, but I was also quite young and rather inexperienced about it, as well as many other things. Over time I learned to relax and let desire, love and pure lust take control. I learned to take hints from the responses of my husband as well as to pay attention to the reactions of his cock. I began to focus my attention on every nuance...the feel...the taste...and doing so led me to discover the true joy of having it in my mouth, how every flick of my tongue and movement of my mouth turned him on and how very turned on it made me while I was doing it. I'm not asking to have a "suck-off" competition with you...I am sure you will always consider your abilities to outshine my own, but there is no way you can ever say that I have not pleased my husband or that he would be far better serviced by a man.
I know men know their cocks...I know men know what to do with them. But I also know that but I also know that women can learn to treat a cock as their own and they are every bit as capable as a man to give it pleasure. And as for your earlier statements about women licking pussy better than men, while I have never had the experience of receiving oral sex from a woman, there is no way in hell I would ever be able to criticize the efforts of my husband. If there is a better way to do it than his, I am not sure I would survive the outcome. His attention and focus on me has left me exhausted from multiple orgasms, almost to the point I have to beg him to stop, but of course I don't. LOL! So while he may not have a pussy himself, he sure as hell knows how to pleasure one!
I implore you to try and see things a little differently. Oral sex really doesn't need to be a competition between the genders as to who does what better. It is a shared experience that cannot be measured nor does it need to be measured. It's a personal thing between two people and it just doesn't mean squat as to what gender does it better. Try to temper your words, DiamondDog and I assure you that you will find yourself better understood and less likely to receive so many responses that accuse you of being something you say you are not.
Kate
How hard is it to say to your mate , i like this , i like that and i prefer this way , i taught my wife what i like and how i like it and i learned from her the art of pleasing a woman , talking is not a difficult thing . Needless to say , though videos and talking to other people she became an expert at many ways to please me waaay beyond any expectations i ever had ! She could make me beg to cum and have me explode till i was fully drained . Whew ! i just shivered thinking about it !
Kate -- as usual, you show your ability to be calm, sensible, and perceptive. When contentious issues come up, it is important to state one's own opinions respectfully, and listen to others' opinions and experiences with an open mind. We may or may not be swayed in our opinion, but we should always be careful to differentiate opinion from fact. We should be careful of projecting personal experience into universal truths, especially in the absence of any objective data, or the different experience of someone else.
And, we should be careful that, shall I say "energetic" language does not alienate or offend others and propel discussion on something that should not be an especially contentious issue, into one.
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Wishing everyone peace, love, and good oral sex... wherever it comes from... (!)
DD - who said anything about older/geriatric women - I certainly didn't, but you did. HAHA:cutelaugh And "granny" was her nickname because she wore dentures and could take them out when biving a blow job (which was extrordinary). And she was not (nor could she have been) my grandmother. Again, no one said anything about incest either.
Get a grip on your assumations.
Now, what you say may be the truth in some cases or moreover your own situations, but not all, and most certainly not mine. You are not in my shoes (so to speak) and therefore, cannot speak for me or my views.
You have the right to speak for yourself and yourself only, no one else.
I have had very memorable BJs from both men and women and I can only rate one male up there with granny. The two of them must have studied 'cock sucking 101' together. Both made me cum in under 5 minutes.
Ahhhhhhh!!! The memories ............. :rolleyes:
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