is social media apps really killing the LGBT scene ?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/smal...ut-of-business

or is it that people just do not socialize as much as they once did in LGBT / gay bars.......

btw, the bar is labelled as a gay bar..... but the truth is some of the mentioned bars in the article were not gay bars, they were LGBT bars, the media has refused to stop using the term gay bar and the term is used to refer to LGBT bars and nightclubs, gay and lgbt cruise bars, gay bars and so on.......

the article puts a swing on things that can reinforce the idea that LGBT people are all about casual sex and NSA hook ups... and once again ignores the fact that a lot of LGBT people are in relationships with others and enjoy socialising but the number of venues are disappearing..... and its not all about a lack of support for the place, its that many LGBT have got sick of the politics of sexuality and the continued US vs THEM attitude that some people refuse to let go off......

what is missing in the article, is a change to the drink driving laws in NZ as of the first of dec that has seen the alcohol levels for breath and blood, reduced down in a attempt to cut the serious drinking and drive issues in NZ......

a change in the hours that bars and clubs are allowed to be open and that is to deal with the binge drinking issues that have driven a lot of social drinkers away from bars and clubs.......

but it does mention the raising costs of owning a business in auckland, as auckland is in serious financial trouble with council over spending so they are placing the burden on local businesses and home owners ( rates are like a property and land tax, paid each year ).....


anyways.... is social apps affecting the LGBT bars and clubs in your area ? .... thats if you have them....... and are you more of a socialite or a person that uses bars and clubs to hook up and would perfer apps rather than face to face contact to make a connection......


myself, I am not really a social person but I perfer clubs and bars so I can meet people, have a drink, relax and make friends.....

As LGBT relationships become more mainstream people who aren't interested in bars might migrate to other places like coffee shops, restaurants, etc. ?

Some people like to party, and that's fine.. but speaking for myself I don't like drinking excessively, cigarette smoke stings my eyes and most of these places open up after my bedtime, I have never been able to pull "all-nighters" and I work full time.

There was a local bar here that I went to every once in a while and ignored the smoke. It wasn't too bad, the crowd seemed to have more transgender folks but it was a friendly place and they had decent food. Unfortunately it went out of business, I'm not sure how well it was or was not managed.

Online blind dating sucks, meeting people in person, actually getting to know them and building an honest friendship or relationship is still my preferred way to operate. I had one guy who seemed interesting online who wanted to do phone sex the first or second time we talked on the phone before we even met and it turned me off tremendously. He actually seemed like an otherwise normal guy, but I just could not bring myself to have phone sex with a complete stranger and like it.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm sure there is still SOME sort of market for physical places where LGBT folks can relate to each other and share common interests.

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Originally Posted by elian

He actually seemed like an otherwise normal guy, but I just could not bring myself to have phone sex with a complete stranger and like it.

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Just you wait. I may wind up using this in a weird story. Imagine out of control phones, they f**k people & kill them.

"He actually seemed like an otherwise normal guy, but I just could not bring myself to have phone sex with a complete stranger and like it."

Yep, after all you never know just where that reciever has been. Fresh phone! How dare he suggest sex on a first or second date.

Cant say bout NZ.. but I suspect it is other factors that come in2 play for the closing of many pubs n clubs.. from what I c str8 pubs have had it far worse and we have lost around a quarter since the recession started.. and more closing every day.. the ban on smoking has played its part.. how hard I cannot say.. and pubs and bars struggling to compete with supermarkets and offies for price def has had its effect and which have encourages more hime drinking and arguably much less socialising. There isnt near the same money about and so pubs more than clubs, suffer...

I live in a prosperous city and so it hasnt been hit quite as badly as many other towns and cities.. property taxes and business rates play their part but no better or worse than 6 or 7 years ago... no, I wud say that in the UK it isnt apps wich have hit either the str8 or bi scenes.. the economy is the bugger, and the appalling policies of an uncaring and unfeeling government which has hit those sectors of the population who use both clubs and pubs most.. that in the UK is where the major problem lies... not through social app use.. am not saying they arent a problem.. but we just dont know whether they are or not... but the main problem lies elsewhere..:)

Probably but this is a good thing as LGBT people are becoming even more accepted.

Most LGBT people eventually grow up, and get tired of going to bars and clubs as a main social outlet. Or they don't like all the petty drama and gossip associated with LGBT/gay bars and clubs, or how for decades bars and clubs are just meat markets.

My LGBT friends that are single have said that they don't go to bars or dance clubs to meet people to hook up since they can just go online and easily meet people that way, and they don't even have to leave home.