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pervert- alter (something) from its original course, meaning, or state of distortion or corruption of what was first intended.
synonyms: distort, corrupt, subvert, twist, bend abuse, misapply, misuse.
What is the difference between between bisexuality and perversion?
Has bi.com become a perversion of itself since August, 2014?
Are threads showing photo after photo of sexual activity a toxic perversion of the site? a healthy sexual expression (of bisexuality)?
When you partake in a forum to public posting (as opposed to moderated posting), you run the chance of facing posts that displease/offend you. It's the same here, the same in some non-sexuality forums that I belong to. You just move on from those posts and try to glean a bit of knowledge from more intelligent posters.
Or you just simply do not click on threads that you don't want to read about. It's that simple.
"Perversion" is highly subjective. What's considered "Perverted" to one person is considered tame and vanilla to another person.
Keep in mind drama queen OP, this is a bisexual sex, amateur porn, and hook up site for bisexual adults, and it always has been these things first, and foremost.
This site is very tame compared to other LGBT/sexuality web sites I go to.
I'd have to say tenni is right and hit the nail right on the head!
I don't com on here much anymore because of just that!
Bisexual.com has turned into nothing much more than a porn site, with ads.
I haven't seen much intelligent conversations here since last year.
It's a shame because this place used to stand out above the others now it has been lowered to nothing much I car about.
Hell I get more content from my therapist. Too bad can't get a therapist to take over. At least you'd see some intelligent conversations.
There are ads all over this site both for porn sites, and there was someone that's been registered since 2010 and never posted at all until now today to spam a facebook group that isn't even that much of a group or up and running at all, and I've seen other people spam their sites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lover_Not_Fighter
Hi ChristopherQuote:
Originally Posted by Christopher South
I notice that you are a recent member post August, 2014. If you read threads started at least a year earlier from August 2014, you may notice more variety and issues connected specifically to bisexuality. Public forums can be moderated or not moderated. I believe that they are public when they may be read by any reader even if not a member makes them public? Your thoughts?
I agree with you as to the lack of some moderation may be impacting the present state.
Christopher Do you connect your bisexuality to thread about fisting etc? Do you believe that all bisexuals practice fisting and watersports? Or are such activities not specific to bisexuality or any sexuality? Is fisting a perversion of all sexualities or the main sexual expression of all sexualities?
Is it possible that to connect such sex acts to bisexuality is a perversion of bisexuality?
Perversion is not subjective. It is as defined above. If the sexual act is altered from the original then it is a perversion. If referring to heterosexuality, vaginal penetration might be the original process. Anal sex may be seen as a perversion of heterosexuality unless it may be proven that a wide majority of heterosexual practice anal penetration. The same with strap ons. Some hetero women penetrate their male partneer but it that the majority or a perversion. Morality is not always applied.
If referring to bisexuality, the behaviour would be a perversion if it is a corruption of bisexuality. That would be attracted to both genders and that would be it.
If most bisexuals consider watersports as an essential bisexual behaviour then it would be a norm for bisexuals.
Even anal penetration is not really practiced by all same sex bisexuals but that may be increasing. I know a lot of biguys who wonder about anal penetration but decide it is not for them. I know other biguys who love anal penetration. It would have to be proven scientifically that bisexuals all practice anal penetration before it to be the norm ( a wide majority). Otherwise, it may be seen as a perversion of bisexuality. Some perversions come closer to main sexual practices but I would guess that most would consider fisting and watersports as a perversion of their sexual practices.
What's "perverted" or considered "perversion" is highly subjective...since what's "perverted" to one person, is normal or OK to another person.Quote:
Originally Posted by tenni
Lots of people of all genders and sexual orientations, including bisexual women and men get into kinks like fisting and watersports as a sex act, watch it in porn, or have a curiosity about them.
As reported on another thread, research indicates that the most common forms of sexual activity between bisexual men and/or gay men is around 75 percent of participants reported kissing their partners, giving oral sex, and/or receiving oral sex in their most recent sexual encounters. This was a survey of 25,000 men and is clearly a more normal m2m sexual activity. It might be considered the original form of sexual expression between same gender male sexual activity.
Only 36% received anal sex and 34% gave anal sex. Does this mean that anal sex is a perversion of m2m sex? It looks this way but I'm not sure if those percentages are high enough to consider anal sex as a less sexual activity and far from normal m2m sexual activity. I would not see anal sex as a perversion of m2m sex.
Since there was no reports of watersports or fisting, such activities do not register high enough to be considered anything but a perversion of m2m sex.
They would have to survey all bisexual and gay men combined then to figure it out, and not just 25,000 men.Quote:
Originally Posted by tenni
Did the survey even ask people if they were into kinks like watersports, fisting, bondage, etc.? Fisting would be considered anal sex since it's just simply anal sex with a hand or arm instead of with a finger or a few fingers.
Watersports, bondage, etc. are not a "perversion" of gay/bisexual sex; but are simply kinks, and there's nothing wrong with them, or with adult men and women consensually engaging in them.
…sounds good to me…Quote:
Originally Posted by Christopher South
…at the risk of beating a dead horse…I repeat…if you’re displeased with the posts…start a thread to your liking…if you’re not starting post the quality you prefer…the fault is yours…not the other posters….Quote:
Originally Posted by Lover_Not_Fighter
You just move on from those posts and try to glean a bit of knowledge and/or thrill from more like minded posters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Christopher South
The nice thing about a public forum is that it works both ways.. (hehe - see how I did that? bisexual, both ways?) I amaze myself.
Would abomination be a more accurate term than perversion?
Abomination......a thing that causes disgust or hatred.Quote:
Originally Posted by njfresh
Explain in more detail.
Just off the top of my head, I would say one difference between perversion and abomination is that an abomination is an external reaction while a perversion is more internal.
Bi.com may be something that others feel is an abomination without bi.com being a perversion of bisexuality itself.
Your thoughts?
I've noticed that the US is more prone to having ignorance amongst its citizens as far as scientific methods are concerned. I have only read such thoughts from people who post on Bi.com though. It may not involve all US peeps and such ignorance is perversion of US peeps education. I believe that it may be a reaction to ideas that are unpleasant to the person commenting on scientific process?Quote:
Originally Posted by pole_smoker
25,000 is a very good sampling of bisexuals and homosexuals. I would agree that it may be Bi Erasure/ Bi Invisibility though. We do not know from this study whether it is mostly bisexuals or mostly homosexuals or an equal numbers of each that participate in oral sex and kissing. But we do know that anal sex is not a predominant sexual practice amongst same sex activity regardless of their sexual orientation.
Simply stating that X (watersports) is not a perversion of bisexual sex doesn't make it so. You need scientific data gathered properly. Now, go back to school and learn the scientific method. Find funding and do your own research that is backed up by being published in a scientific journal. Stop wasting your time on a bisexual site ;)
No one is stating that consensual agreement to watersports is wrong. It just is not commonly done sexual behaviour for bisexuals or homosexuals. Those who do such things are in the vastly significant minority. Posting such material on a bisexual site and claiming it to be something done by a majority of bisexuals is perverting those in the majority bisexuals.
Stating that oral sex and kissing are same sex (bisexual and homosexual) sexual acts is scientifically proven.
Now, have you considered that you may be happier on a kink site?
The website is neither a "perversion" or "Abomination". :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by tenni
Stop being such a prude, and trying to control just who and what people post on this site.
People in the United States both in general, and on this site are not prone to having ignorance about scientific methods, or studies. However keep in mind that studies and surveys can and easily are manipulated to get any result that the person, people, or group giving them wants.Quote:
Originally Posted by tenni
I'm not going to go to a kink site simply because personally my husband and I are not that into kink, however I do recognize that a lot of bisexual people do engage in kinky sex acts and I'm not in denial about this the way some people are. :rolleyes:
Nobody is "perverting" bisexuality, bisexual sex acts, etc. :rolleyes: get over yourself.
1. Bisexuality is a healthy sexual orientation. Perversion is in the eye of the beholder. To str8 homophobes and religious fundamentalists, bisexuality is considered to be a perversion. I'm bisexual and it feels perfectly sane and natural and normal to enjoy sex with women and men. In the eye of this beholder (me), things like incest, pedophilia, shitplay, bestiality, and any kind of forced sex with an unwilling person are among the sexual activities I myself consider to be perverted.
2. The site is not a perversion of its former self. Just as this country has been changed for the worse by those people who use political correctness and other tactics to try to intimidate the polite silent majority into silence or acquiescence, so have similar people changed this site for the worst. Good news on both fronts...the pendulum has finally begun to swing the other way.
C. I see nothing wrong with posting sexual pics in the chatroom or in forum threads which invite people to post them there. Chatters not wishing to be offended have a choice to not open chatroom pics and not to read forum threads designated for pic posts of various sexual activities. It is crossing the line to inject such pics into forum threads intended for discussion only and not designated as pic threads.
Well said. Threads that contain pics usually more often than not, state that they have them.Quote:
Originally Posted by cuttin2dachase
We think what some people see as perversion others see as a fetish. When you can define normal then go for perversion. Not from a dictionary from a human point of view. You will never do it, ain't possible because we are all individuals with different points of view.
Agreed, but I'm sure prudes on this site will disagree with this simple fact, and claim that certain sex acts they don't like that consenting adults do that are kinks are "perversion". :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by welickit
Kinky is when you play with your lover's ass with a feather...perverted is when you use the whole chicken...